February 2, 2012
The 7 deadly christian challenges that we dare them to take!

Here are some basic and fundamental questions concerning the foundation that christianity's entire house of cards is built upon. Watch christians ignore, make accusations, complain, double talk, squirm, perform mental gymnastics, try to answer by attempting to disprove everything else under and over the sun, and run for the hills. These challenges will make any christian lose every debate.

When a christian challenges you or trolls a page that you are a member of, simply post this challenge and refuse to hear them until they can answer all of these questions. Why engage a person who can’t answer questions about what they are trying to spread and force onto the world? Such a person has no credibility. Until one christian can fully and completely answer these questions, then their religion is not credible and it is false.  

If nothing else, this is an exercise to try to stimulate the oppressed reason and logic center of a christian mind when they think about their religion.

1. 10 commandments, the flood and free-will:

Why did god give moses 10 commandments, when he gave the Jews 631 commandments? 

Why would god genocide humanity (his children) with his “great flood” before he presented the 10 commandments to his children?

Why would god kill (around) 25 million of his children for breaking rules that he never gave us?

Would a loving god kill (around) 25 million of his children?

If god gave us free-will, why would he kill us for using it and how can free-will exist at the same time as god’s plan? 

If god makes all our decisions, by having his plan, how can we have free-will?

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2.  Jesus’ claimed death.

How is jesus’ death, called a sacrifice when:

He was executed under “claimed” Roman laws for crimes. Capital punishment or the death penalty is a legal process whereby a person is put to death by the state as a punishment for a crime. Jesus’ death would have been a sacrifice if his disciples would have had to have done it.

Why does the story say that two Roman trials found him not guilty for a crime that the Sanhedrin accused him of and then the Romans crucified him, when the Sanhedrin were the only ones who found him guilty and they would have stoned him under their laws?

The bible claims that jesus was and is god and always was. The bible claims that god is and was jesus and always was. They are one being. Evidence: http://tmblr.co/ZTwOHxHK4KbP

Humans could not have really killed god. So jesus could not have really died because he was god. He would have had to make believe that people murdered him. So, the story claims that he “rose” from the “pretend dead”. He was not dead and thus, was never really murdered or sacrificed.

Doesn’t the fact that jesus knew he would reanimate in 3 days, diminish the whole sacrifice?

Who and what was jesus saving us from?

Was he saving us from his own punishment against us, that he invented, for our sins?

The first time that loving jesus/god got mad at us, he lovingly genocided the planet and killed almost all his children. This time he sent himself to save us from himself.

How is it remarkable, brave, and loving for him to stand up to himself?

Why would humans, killing god’s son (who is god) and breaking a commandment (thou shall not kill) make god forgive us?

Why wouldn’t it make god more angry when people killed his son?

If someone made you angry, would you require that person to murder your child for forgiveness?

What kind of father chooses to have their child killed and would that be an action of a good father?

Why were people rewarded for the murder of jesus and breaking god’s law? 

Was the murder of jesus, a moral action? 

If people decided not to kill jesus, what would have happened?

Would our refusal to kill jesus upset god enough where he would have genocided the world again or were we in a win-win situation, in which case, jesus' sacrifice was meaningless?

If jesus were fully a man like christians claim, how could he have performed all those miracles besides his resurrection?

 

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3. Why would god create lucifer, evil, sin, and hell? 

Here are the 3 bible passages to prove it:

“For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.” ~Colossians 1:16

“and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.” ~Ephesians 3:9  

“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” ~Isaiah 45:7

Did god create these things to make himself out to be good and great? 

So who is ultimately responsible for sin, immoralness, and evil in the world? Religious people swear up and down that humans are at fault. It is a major reason to be religious and to beg and grovel for forgiveness for being imperfect and human; as they claim god made us.

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Why does the bible claim that evil comes from and is sent from god?

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See 4 examples:

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2 Samuel 12:11 (NAV) - “Thus says the LORD, ‘Behold, I will raise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes and give them to your companion, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight.

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1 Kings 14:10 (KJ) - Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone. 

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I Samuel 16:23 - ”And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.”

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I Samuel 19:9 - "And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.“

Christians claim that god does not interfere with our free-will but when he created satan, why did he give satan the power to interfere with our free-will?

2 Corinthians 4:4 - "The god of this age (satan) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." 

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4.) Adam and Eve (A&E)

God puts the tree of knowledge (setting the stage for our downfall) in Eden and warns A&E not to eat the delicious fruit (already knowing the outcome) but purposely fails to warn his newborns about the talking and dangerous snake! A&E were only helpless babies who were set up to fail!

Questions:

Why did God put his first children in a vulnerable position?

Why did god put the tree and the snake in the garden?

Why didn’t God just destroy Satan?

What kind of father would do that…especially when knowing the outcome? 

Doesn’t this story make humanity look like a game to god?

 

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5.) Is the bible the inerrant words of a god?

When applied to sacred writings, inerrancy is the belief that the words are god’s true revelations to mankind. An inerrant text is considered infallible, truthful, reliable, totally free of error and absolutely authoritative. Inerrancy is not restricted to moral and religious truth. It is normally applied to all statements of fact in the bible: "scientific, historical, or geographical.”

The term “inerrancy” does not appear in the Bible. But then, words describing other important historical Christian beliefs are also missing: the Trinity, rapture, Purgatory, etc.

During the Dark Ages and Middle Ages, there was no need for a term such as “inerrancy.” There was a consensus that the Bible was completely truthful and accurate. It was only with the arrival of The Enlightenment, when European theologians started to view the Bible as a historical document, that the literal truthfulness and accuracy of the Bible began to be doubted. In reaction to this criticism, conservative theologians introduced the concept of inerrancy.

There are many passages which state or imply that the authors of the Bible were inspired by God. Since errors, mistakes and duplicity are not generally regarded as qualities of God, inspiration by God would imply inerrancy of the text. Passages are found both in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) and in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) which support inerrancy, either directly or indirectly: http://www.religioustolerance.org/inerran3.htm

The bible claims to be the word of god. 

2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:20-21 - Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

This is the only proof that exists and this is called circular reasoning: http://www.numeraire.com/download/WhatIsCircularReasoning.pdf

Circular reasoning

The anonymous writers claim a supernatural origin for their writings. Nearly 4,000 times expressions like “Thus says the Lord,” “The word of the Lord came unto me,” etc., are recorded in the Bible.

What proof is there that the bible is the word of god?

There is no record of the anonymous writers being challenged, questioned or investigated?

How did the editors (who wanted to start a new religion) know or believe the writings were the words of their god if the writers never proved it to be true?

Why should anyone believe these unproven Bronze Age books? 

Why should people “believe” when: the FRAUD of the Bible (Old & New Testament), Qur’an, Hadith and many other Bronze-Age Religious Scriptures have been proven?

See the research: 

http://exposingreligionblog.tumblr.com/post/28603157252

 

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6. Take The Official jesus Challenge:

For over two years, we have challenged thousands of christians to show us real evidence for their jesus. Pastors, christian radio hosts, theology students, lawyers and even claimed Atheists have tried; all have failed and nobody has even come close to answering this simple challenge.

The Official Challenge:

Please provide ONE single person, along with their writing, that can confirm the simple human historical existence of the bible’s jesus the christ that meets 2 simple re

quirements listed below:

A.) A contemporary 1st century person that lived between the years of 1-36 AD, who was a first-hand eye-witness, who actually saw, met, spoke to and knew jesus.

B.) Provide this person’s non-bible, non-gospel and non-scripture writing about jesus (with references/citations), dated between the years of 1-56 AD.

The character of jesus has become the most famous person in history and the bible claims that there were tens of thousands of witnesses to jesus. Just give me one name and what they wrote that meets both of those 2 simple requirements. It is that simple and I will concede that jesus was a real person instead of a work of fiction. I will even delete this page.

Ironically, even using the bible, a witness can not be found. “The four Gospels that eventually made it into the New Testament, for example, are all anonymous, written in the third person about Jesus and his companions. None of them contains a first-person narrative (“One day, when Jesus and I went into Capernaum…”), or claims to be written by an eyewitness or companion of an eyewitness. Why then do we call them Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Because sometime in the second century, when proto-orthodox Christians recognized the need for apostolic authorities, they attributed these books to apostles (Matthew and John) and close companions of apostles (Mark, the secretary of Peter; and Luke, the travelling companion of Paul). Most scholars today have abandoned these identifications, and recognize that the books were written by otherwise unknown but relatively well-educated Greek-speaking (and writing) Christians during the second half of the first century.” ~”Lost Christianities” by Bart Ehrman (2003) 

It can not be done. Almost every single aspect of his story can be debunked, except his gender. Christians are the ones that need to “find” their jesus. The truth is that the fiction of jesus has been a grand fraud to obtain control, power and massive wealth for over 2000 years.

 

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