Out of those 4,100 abortions how many NEEDED to happen? I’m going to go with maybe 30 were because the mother’s health was in danger or because of a rape

According to Guttmacher Institute, “Women also cited possible problems affecting the health of the fetus or concerns about their own health (13% and 12%, respectively)” That adds up to 26%. Rape also makes up 1 percent, but since rape is one of the most unreported crimes, the number of people who got pregnant from rape is probably much higher than 1 percent. So, let’s say it’s 27 percent. If we’re gonna do math here, that adds up to 1,107 out of 4,100. A lot more than 30. 

. The others didn’t need to happen. Abortion is not a form of birth control because somebody doesn’t want to use contraceptives.

54 percent of people who have abortions were using contraceptives the month they got pregnant.

Of course, birth control and condoms can still fail but that is a risk of having sex. If you can’t deal with the consequences of your actions, change the actions.

Consent to sex =/= consent to pregnancy.

And with the ones who died from unsafe abortions, again how many NEEDED the abortion (for rape or medical reasons), I’m going to go with a small percentage again.

Your small percentage was wrong. Also, I’m going to use the 27 percent that is reported from the US and apply it to the numbers worldwide. According to the W.H.O, 68 to 70,000 people die a year due to illegal abortions. Let’s use 69,000 as an average number. 27 percent of that number is 18,630. Not a small percentage at all. As I said, the number could be higher because we don’t really know the percentage of people who have abortions because of rape.

The others chose to do that, that’s not the real tragedy. The innocent lives that didn’t need to be taken because people weren’t responsible are the tragedy.

You are not pro-life. You’re pro-fetus. Pro-lifers say that they want the fetus and the parent to be equal, but you’re just like “LOL FUQ PEOPLE WHO DIED BCUZ OF ILLEGAL ABORTION THE TRAGEDY IZ DE FETUSES” That’s not equal at all.

No it’s not “fuck people who died from illegal abortions”. It is sad that those women died but it is also sad that their innocent children had to die. There is no good reason for abortion.

You’re sociopathy makes a great case for abortion. Those embryos who died from unsafe abortion are collateral damage in your quest to make sure anyone, particularly women, who enjoys sex or doesn’t want to birth babies die by the millions. Deep throat a cactus.

Enlighten me as to where I said I wanted women to die? Stop putting words in my mouth.

When someone tells you that tens of thousands of people die each year from unsafe abortion, primarily in places where it is illegal or very restricted, and you respond with “That’s sad, but” and continue to bemoan the number of safe legal abortions in the US and continue to advocate for making abortion illegal, it means you want women to die. You don’t have to say that word for word, but that’s what your advocacy does. It kills pregnant people and relegates everyone with the capabilities to become pregnant to sub-human status. If you don’t like that, change your position. Don’t be a cry baby.

A cry baby? Cute. I’m not going to change my position, I’m right. Stop assuming things. I never said I wanted women to die. You’re absurd. Stop putting words in my mouth.

If you don’t want women to die, advocate for widely available, safe, and legal birth control (including abortion) and comprehesive sexuality and relationship education. Anything else leads to women’s deaths. That changes your position from ” Women dying is sad, but [insert judgmental misogynstic untrue bullshit]” to “Abortion makes me queasy, but if severely limiting rights and access to abortion leads to their deaths, it’s best that it is safe and legal.” I don’t think that’s such a great stretch.

This girl has no debating skills. You don’t just say 2 things and call yourself right, when I and this other person have shot down your points REPEATEDLY. You are not right. You are the opposite of right. Your arguments are very reminiscent of a child. “YOU PROVIDE ME PROPER INFORMATION BUT YOU’RE WRONG”

Stop.

You’re an idiot. Not everyone has to support murder.

SEE THAT JUST PROVES YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ABORTION AT ALL. 

Ok. This is when most abortions happen.



That is not a killed baby. There is nothing reminiscent to a baby. That is quite literally a clump of cells. 

Don’t you come back at me with one of them bloody gorey fetus pictures. I can tell you that the pictures that people say are of abortions are either stillborns or miscarried fetuses.

Still a human life. I’m done with these conversations. If you want people to respect your opinions, respect the opinions of others.

I refuse to respect your oppressive and wrong opinions. Bye now!

1.) Abortion is not so different from not getting pregnant in the first place. Say girl A  had sex and got pregnant then a month later, an abortion. Girl B didnt have sex so she never got pregnant. In both cases, a baby that could have been born, was not. Both women prevented the life of a child.
2.) Abortion is a serious procedure that women are made to feel guilty for so its not a decision that is made just because they decided they don’t feel like raising a child right now. Think of how many of these babies would have ended up in orphanages because their parents couldn’t keep them. Starving because their single mom couldn’t make enough money. Traumatized because they knew they were a complete mistake and knew their mom didn’t really want them. Women who get abortions do so because they know they are unable to provide the life to the child that it deserves.
3.) Stop being so concerned over the lives that never were and focus on the children that are already alive and starving. If you love children so much, help feed children, help pull children away from abusive homes. 13million children in the United States alone are hungry and dont know where their next meal is coming from.
I would be concerned with those 13 million before I would those 4,100.