A series of warnings:
1. I’m not a Tibetan Buddhist, neither are you, and that’s not a Tulpa.
2. Phil Hine was wrong about Egregores. It turns out the Fraternitas Saturnai taught that they were way more complicated than just being “super-awesome thoughtforms.” GOTOS wasn’t “generated” by having lots of sex; GOTOS was fed with sex. Sometimes. He also received straight up libations and shit, if Stephen Flowers is to be believed.
3. Just because you work with thoughtforms does not give you carte blanche to run around declaring everyone else’s Gods to be thoughtforms.
4. They’re not “Goetic” demons. They’re spirits, and the respond to Goetic incantations. They don’t sit around in the underworld howling about how much it sucks. They have better things to do with their time.
5. Poor people practice magic, too. I know this comes as quite a shock. You don’t need to try in vain to be something you aren’t.
6. You haven’t made a goddamn nganga and we both know it. Get rid of that abomination before the dead eat your sorry ass.
Can you elaborate on point #2?
“As a feature of the organization and doctrine this concept* is inexactly reflected in the FS as the GOTOS entity - the guiding force of the order embodied in the 33*, which is actually the superhuman Saturnian Demiurge.”
- Stephen Flowers, The Fraternitas Saturnai - or Brotherhood of Saturn: An Introduction to its History, Philosophy, and Rituals. (P. 6)GOTOS is, as Flowers puts it, the ‘active’ Guardian of the Realm of Saturn (the Demiurge), and the Lurker at the Threshold who ‘initiates’ individuals into the Saturnian Lodge. It is the ‘Lodge Spirit’ insofar as it speaks for Saturnus and its dread realm, and thus was ‘fed’ with libations and sex magic operations found in the appendix.
The view that it was a created spirit was taken by Phil Hine, but nowhere seen in the documentary evidence Flowers has produced.
Granted, all of this could still be wrong. Flowers can be a dubious source as well at times.
* The concept of the ‘Secret Chiefs’.