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“Sam Temple’s strong right arm? You can chisel those words on my tombstone, Lady, and I’ll be a proud and happy corpse.” -Dekka Talent She/Her I draw, I write, I take photos, I watch too many shows and I cry.
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Gay people will be like “this is my comfort show!” And then show you the most emotionally devastating, stress-inducing, tragic piece of media you have ever witnessed

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And why did the value plummet, Marissa? Why did it plummet?

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red-mercer

Would like to know how exactly she wouldn't fuck up Netflix or Hulu

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noctumsolis

What does that even mean? PDF as in Portable Document Format?

i cannot stress enough that i dont think yahoo even knew what a pdf was

you left out the best part of that article. the poor yahoo emplyees at those meetings were just as confused as the rest of us.

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limelocked

This genocide is the second instance in the last five years that really highlights that the permanent members of the security council should not have a voice if they are involved in an issue

Russia should not be able to veto resolutions on ukraine, America should not be able to veto resolutions on israel

Like Secretary General Guterres said in the meeting; “the eyes of the world and the eyes of history are upon us”

The American exceptionalism propaganda is failing and rotting, I will never forgive nor forget the country who didn’t listen to the world and it’s own people begging it to stop funding extermination, not in a million years

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I don’t know if this has been discussed before since I am very late to the fandom, but, about the scene in Rome and the comments about oysters. Everyone always discusses like “oh Crowley said that so they would get asked out by Aziraphale” or discussing how Crowley was angry at Aziraphale because of the Jesus thing thinking that Aziraphale just agrees with heaven on everything, and then also Crowley’s look when Aziraphale say “well let me tempt you”. but literally all I could think of was that I thought it was a fully established homosexual code relating to oysters.

Let me explain! In Endeavour, a clearly queer coded (who when appearing in the original Morse series is canonically homosexual) character says about someone who is likely straight “alas, I fancy, a lover of oysters”. This is a reference to Stanley Kubrick’s 1960 movie Spartacus which has a conversation speaking about oysters and snails, each representing heterosexuality and homosexuality. So my thought has always been “was that Crowley saying that he had never been with a woman/someone with a vagina?”

There you have it, a bit of a incoherent ramble

Extra note: that Endeavour episode even has a reference to a Terry Pratchett story!

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fellshish

I understand that. Michael Sheen is attractive but the more I think about Aziraphale, the more he pisses me off because the worst thing he could have said was turning Crowley back into an angel. Crowley hates heaven and doesn’t wanna be an angel. Why does Aziraphale refuse to admit that both heaven and hell suck and why does he say that Crowley is a bad guy when he isn’t one?

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Don’t worry, I didn’t think you were calling Michael Sheen unattractive :))

Ok, a lot to unpack here. But i love thinking about good omens so thank you for asking.

First of all, Aziraphale didn’t say Crowley is a bad guy. Crowley said that they asked him back to hell but he’s “not rejoining their team” and he said no. To that aziraphale replied “obviously you said no to hell, you’re the bad guys”. Not the most diplomatic way to say it, he should have said “they’re the bad guys”, but beneath the words is this: he thinks it’s logical crowley said no because he doesn’t think crowley is a right fit for hell. Because crowley is good.

Does he think crowley is right for heaven, then? Not as is — but perhaps as it could be. They could make it better, together. Crowley would be safe there: no longer hated and hunted by heaven or hell. Under aziraphale’s protection. The metatron made it very clear he knew what him and crowley had been up to for all those years, and there was a veiled threat in that, in my opinion.

Now aziraphale & heaven — it’s complicated. Aziraphale doesn’t like thinking about it. He likes living in blissful ignorance enjoying human delights such as books and theater. The last thing he wants to do is work. And over the past 6,000 years he has learned to see shades of grey but he’s also been unable to make real changes. And overall he considers heaven to be better than hell, still. There’s no real alternative.

His choice at the end of season 2, to me, makes a lot of sense. Let’s put it this way. Let’s say you’ve been working for a big charity for the longest time. There are flaws in the company: not everyone who deserves it, is getting help. The charity is being run really badly.

Then, they offer you a new position. You can run the charity. You can change it, but it’ll be hard and you’ll have to give up your current life. Your best friend says: we should just run off together and be happy together. Could you turn your back on the charity? Knowing you could’ve made a difference — or at least tried? That there are people who need help, that aren’t getting it, because you made a selfish choice?

Aziraphale and crowley both have their own flaws in their reasoning, their own motivations. I don’t think aziraphale is more wrong for choosing heaven than crowley is wrong for wanting to be cut off from everything.

The truth is this: the second coming is being put into motion. Aziraphale and crowley are humanity’s only hope.

Aziraphale thinks he can make a difference by influencing heaven. I don’t think he’s mean, or out of character, for that choice.

I do think he should tell crowley he loves him though.

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We as a fandom really need to start appreciating Aziraphale’s perspective more, not just during the final fifteen, but pretty much throughout their entire friendship/relationship from the moment he and Crowley met.

Like just watch back the first meeting during the Creation and really look at not only how excited and happy Crowley looks by his stars and nebulae, but also at how absolutely enthralled Aziraphale seems to be by this. He’s witnessing first hand how joyful Crowley is as an angel, and it’s obviously stuck with him. People criticise Aziraphale for clinging onto that moment, but if you look at it from his point of view, it’s obvious why. When have you— the audience— ever seen Crowley look like that besides that moment? It is such a striking difference that he is almost entirely unrecognisable. Well, it’s the same for Aziraphale. That’s the last time he ever saw Crowley that happy. It was the last time he ever saw a true grin and an excited laugh and a twinkle in Crowley’s eye. He’s not clinging onto a past he wants for himself, he’s clinging onto a past he wants for Crowley. Aziraphale has never interacted with Hell beyond Crowley’s own complaints about it, the demons who have tried to forcefully split the two up, and the body switch scene where he witnesses first hand the deadly punishment they were planning on inflicting upon Crowley. To every intent and purpose (from Aziraphale’s perspective), Hell is objectively bad for Crowley and being an angel again is objectively good for him.

Crowley, on the other hand, has experienced the worst of Heaven, while Aziraphale has more or less been protected from it. Aziraphale never saw Heaven’s punishment or heard Gabriel’s statement of “shut your stupid mouth and die” so he still does have a relatively naive view of Heaven where Crowley does not.

I think we need to remember that Aziraphale and Crowley both have limited information about everything. They are not omniscient like God or the audience. Aziraphale only knows about Hell from what he’s heard and he only knows about Heaven from what he’s experienced as an angel who has not fallen.

I agree that Aziraphale’s words during the final fifteen were not well thought out on his part, but that’s kind of the point? These are complex and (ironically) very human characters. Aziraphale fumbles his words and says things wrong; he doesn’t know how to communicate his feelings properly because he’s spent the last 6000 years convinced that he’d be damned to Hell if he ever did. He hurts Crowley in the process, but I don’t believe for a second that his intentions were anything other than an attempt to do what was right for him and Crowley, a genuine attempt at allowing them to finally be together.

Crowley is experiencing the final fifteen from a completely different perspective. He has become entirely disillusioned with who he was before he fell, but Aziraphale has not, because he only saw the surface of what looked like genuine happiness radiating from Crowley during his days as an angel. In fact, what I always find fascinating is how Aziraphale was the first to warn Crowley about Heaven’s system. He was the first to worry about Crowley getting into trouble, because unlike Crowley, he knew how the system worked. I think Aziraphale’s naivety towards Heaven comes purely from a desire to believe that God is correct and good. It is God that Aziraphale trusts and loves enough to stay loyal to Heaven, because he’s never really had a reason to think otherwise.

The system, however, is something that Aziraphale has never been naive upon. He has always been aware of its shortcomings, long before even Crowley did, and that’s why Aziraphale is so intent on fixing it. To him, Crowley never would have fallen had the system allowed him to ask questions, had Heaven implemented a “suggestion box” if you will, and he genuinely believes that all he needs to do is fix the system, and Crowley will be able to be that joyful angel, full of enthusiasm, once more.

Regardless of how Aziraphale went about things, I know that he did this for Crowley. He did this because he loves Crowley, and I know that Neil and Terry didn’t write this to be interpreted in any other way to be honest, because Neil has always insisted that this is a love story, and he has not changed his mind. The final fifteen was not written in a way that plants Aziraphale as the antagonist, and I don’t know why people think that that’s the case. The Metatron and Heaven’s problematic system have always been the enemy, and Aziraphale and Crowley have always been caught up in the crossfire.

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