true destiel endgame where cas possess dean in s14 when he's trying to get thrown into the ocean and then makes sam throw them into the ocean. together4ever babes.

Dean + picking up Cas-isms

Bonus:

Here’s a parallel I noticed that highlights the difference between Cas relationship with Dean and Cas relationship with Sam pretty well. Episodes 10x22 vs 14x15

When MOC Dean is beating up Cas, Cas doesn’t hit back even once. The most he does is try to bear hug him from behind to calm him down. But not a single punch.

When Sam is Justin Smith, Cas says he won’t hurt him, but he actually does pick him up and slam him into the ground. It’s not a big deal, obviously he knows Sam can take it, but it’s something he wouldn’t even do with Dean.

Before the actual fighting, Cas tells dean, “I’m your friend… I’ll be the one that watches you murder the world.” And then when MOC Dean is on top of Cas holding the angel blade to him, Cas holds onto the wrist Dean has on his tie and the only thing he says is, “please”. He doesn’t even try to grab the hand holding the knife. And then Dean stops.

On the other hand, when Sam is on top of Cas trying to stab him, Cas uses an entirely different approach. He’s forcibly holding back Sam’s arm that’s holding the angel blade. He tells him he understands that he wants to be happy, but that if he does this he fails the people they lost. He says “if you do this you fail Jack. Sam, you fail Dean.” And that makes Sam stop.

The difference that’s so stark is that Cas has to appeal to Sam through talking about Dean. But Cas can appeal to Dean through his own relationship to him. He doesn’t need to bring up what it will do to Sam or anyone else, because their own relationship is powerful enough and he knows it.

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have we talked lately about how absolutely insane it makes me that dean has a GED

because it’s like. it’s like. we know from after school special that he at least started his senior year of high school. so at some point, with maximum one and half semesters left, he dropped out. and you COULD SAY well maybe dean just hated school maybe it wasn’t for him maybe he WANTED to drop out and sure that’s a valid argument but consider! WHY would he then put in the effort to get his GED?? you have to schedule that! it’s four tests! there was no online option until 2020, so he had to physically go sit four exams. which means he either went four times, or he sat a nearly 8 hour exam in one day. and either way, that sounds to me like someone who cares about their education and just had something get in the way the first time. like, say, family affairs. perhaps a father who “needed you for this case, dean. what are you gonna need with a high school diploma anyway? you’re cut out to be a hunter, dean, and a damn good one, so you’re gonna have fake records all your life anyway, just like me. so stop wasting your time on school now, come on”

and that’s another point. if all he cared about was “finishing high school,” he could have doctored himself a record. but he wanted to actually do it. he wanted to achieve. my sweet sweet boy who wanted to be a rockstar slash mechanic, who understands engineering and built a homemade emf detector out of an old walkman, he wanted to go to school and prove himself and dig himself out of this life he never asked for. just like sam. but he couldn’t stand up for himself. because even if he’d been willing to piss john off bad enough to get kicked out, where did that leave 14 year old sam? and he couldn’t damn sam to stay with their father alone. the day he dropped out of high school was just another version of the day he left sonny’s. it was never what he wanted. it was always for sam

#LITERALLY SOBBING BC YES EXACTLY#he wanted it!!!! he had to work his ass off to get it!!!!#i hold dear to my headcanon that bobby helped prepare him for it#lying to john for dean so that dean could stay with bobby and study#he got his ged!!!!! that’s nothing to sneeze at#especially when there was most likely little to no support before#and little to no congratulations after#dean did that for himself!!!#dean being selfish my beloved. like yes baby boy!! better yourself!!#don’t let someone else decide who you want to be!!!!

obligatory kels @mochadean tag addition as always

i simply cannot get over cas’ face post godstiel arc. he literally went 🥺 and everyone forgave him

Because I swore part of what makes Dr. Sexy sexy is the fact that he wears cowboy boots. Not tennis shoes.

also i have never thought of dean allowing gadreel to possess sam as a violation of sam’s autonomy. dean was acting basically as a healthcare proxy for his brother who was in a coma, making medical decisions for sam because sam was not able to do so himself. it’s not like sam was sitting there actively saying “do not under any circumstances let a strange angel possess me” and dean went ahead and did it anyway, directly violating sam’s vocal wishes. multiple times over the course of s8, whenever dean and sam had talked about it, sam had said that he didn’t want to die, he wanted to live. based off the information he had, dean made yes an admittedly drastic decision, but not one that’s totally out of left field for the in-universe world? when dean was dying in season three, sam wanted him to harvest organs and keep himself alive like frankenstein’s monster. so. let’s have some perspective

#also sam still had to say yes#he had to choose to live#because an angel yes is not transitive#dean could not say yes for sam and sam coukd not say yes to dean and then have dean say yes to gadreel#which means gadreel decided to show up as dean inside Sam's mind and trick him#also see s14 for an example of cas not being able to take sam into Dean's mind#they had to use the bmol machine

@swordofsun yep you nailed it. The show makes it explicitly clear that Dean cannot say yes on Sam's behalf— the angel "yes" isn't transitive, otherwise Dean's "I don't know what I'm agreeing to but I'm saying yes to doing whatever you want" to Cas in 04.21 would have led to Michael immediately possessing him the second it was convenient.

Dean makes it explicitly clear two or three separate times in 09.01 that this is ultimately Sam's choice and he cannot make it for him. The fact that Gadreel subsequently uses deception and assuming a false identity to coerce an uninformed yes from Sam is, to be clear, something Gadreel did. Not Dean. Gadreel. Something which Dean immediately follows up by trying to tell Sam the truth right away, only to be himself coerced into keeping quiet by a threat to Sam's safety.

Dean's only real involvement in the choices that got made were 1) his initial call for help to any and all angels after Cas didn't (couldn't) respond and 2) the vetting of "Ezekiel" as someone he could trust not to screw them over, the failure of which is not his fault since he did in fact get information from a trusted source and it is very much not his fault that Gadreel was lying about his identity. Everything from that point on is Dean repeatedly stating that it's Sam's choice and ultimately agreeing that "Ezekiel" can go ahead with the possession... if Sam agrees to it.

Being a deancrit is calling Dean an abuser for things Sam and Cas also did and for things that didn’t happen or have been so grossly misrepresented that a normal viewer can barely connect the deancrit’s argument to the show.

All it takes to be a samcrit is pointing out things Sam canonically did in Supernatural.

The Info-Dumpers who Love Characters Website is totally sleeping on the best Info-Dumping Character of All Time:

Jade Daniels, the 17 year-old half-indigenous girl from Stephen Graham Jones’ My Heart is a Chainsaw.

In everyone’s defense, character-driven slow-burn literary fiction that is also a slasher (stab stab 🔪🔪🩸) is a hard genre to sell. Many of us who love one part of this equation don’t love the other.

But Jade has captured my whole chainsaw ♥️, and I CANNOT be normal about it. Jade has never met a person at whom she wasn’t willing to spout random facts that they have exhibited no interest in. She can bring ANYTHING back around to connect to her hyperfixation which is, coincidentally, slasher movies. And she is the most vivid, alive, real-to-me protagonist I have ever encountered. Because of the way she hyperfixates and info dumps, not in spite of it. (Which surely says something about me but again, I am among friends on this webbed site!)

Jade makes completely normal, totally hinged choices like:

Of course, the core of this novel is: What is going on with Jade? After all, she actually wants a slasher cycle to start in her town. (She also wants the slasher cycle to be stopped at the proper moment, to ensure that the vengeance of the slasher is balanced by the justice of the Final Girl.) She does not see herself as a possible Final Girl, but she is willing to help the richer, prettier, more appropriate classmate who she thinks is that girl. Why, why, why?

To be clear, the novel does not posit that something must be wrong with a person to be intensely, obsessively interested in something or for that thing to be horror- even slashers! But Jade’s behavior is, like I said, not entirely hinged, even for a slasher fan. Something must be up.

The novel gives us all the clues we need to peel back the layers of what’s really happening, and when truths are revealed, everything just *clicks.* Themes are introduced and then reinforced on multiple levels. There is a bear. 🐻 (The bear is the not the slasher.)

And throughout, Jade gets to be fully-human and fully seven-fucking-teen. Even though she is on the cusp of adulthood, she is still a child, and a wounded one at that. (Her wounds in no way fucking diminish her.)  Her judgment is often impaired. Her actions are often questionable. Her hair-dye jobs gets so bad, even she thinks its gross. She is so alive, and so deserving of love. 🥹 

I love her.

I would fight for her.

I desperately want to make soup for her, and let her tell me about the Scream franchise (I do not care about the Scream franchise), and give her a safe place to sleep. Even if doing so makes it way more likely that I’m about to get murdered.

Jade Fucking Daniels. My chainsaw-hearted, info-dumping hero protagonist. I salute you, my final girl.