Re-playing Neverwinter nights 2 just so Sianelle (my brat KC) can kill Bishop, gloat, and then make fun of him while he suffers in the wall of the faithless. Damn, I had forgotten how awful the Romance Pack Mod actually is, too bad I’m too lazy to uninstall it.  

(I have been reading fanfic and felt nostalgic… also, I’d kill for a fanfic where the KC is not a “pure maiden” and doesn’t fall in love with Bishop or Casavir)

We need a mod where the KC can tell Casavir, Bishop, Elanee, and Neeshka (but mainly Casavir and Bishop) to all go fly a kite and call them out on their tug-of-war BS

We do, a “reverse” romance mod, maybe? Really my KC was just so tired of Bishop and Casavir. She doesn’t like either of you, you guys; and while Casavir is more “tolerable” to her (she’s CN, not exactly a fan of the lawful sort) she really couldn’t care less about Bishop’s twisted feelings.

(I have so many NWN feelings right now…)

At the same time, I’d kill for a platonic mod where you can play the whole game without companion death or betrayal and tell everyone they’re like your extended family. they all learn to push past their differences and love each other for the elements they bring into the group like khelgar and neeshka did

and at the very least a grudging respect between Casavir and Bishop (or Elanee and Neeshka) so they stop arguing with each other about who should date the person who doesn’t even want either of them

A little unrelated as well, but in the same mod Qara finally learning that she doesn’t need to be held back to gain a measure of control and that she should realistically learn a thing or two to bring out her full potential, and Sand learning that breathing down Qara’s neck and berating every little thing about her because he got denied by her father at the academy won’t teach her any lessons about magic or make her want to learn. Think about it, an eventual student-mentor relationship between Qara and Sand instead of only being each others’ foils

a mod where every companion NPC can be happy and finally shut the fuck up about each other

#PERSONAL PREFERENCE HERE BUT ALSO A MOD WHERE KC CAN DATE THE SAME SEX IF THEY WANT TO #OR HAVE A SWEETHEART BACK IN WEST HARBOR #OR DATE NEVALLE/SAND/QARA/KHELGAR/SHANDRA #OR EVEN NOT CHOOSE ANY ROMANCE AT ALL AND HAVE THEIR DECISION RESPECTED WITHOUT LI’S BEING SUPER OBNOXIOUS ABOUT IT

YES. All of this, including your tags. I like to headcanon that my KC had previous relationships in West Harbor. What I wouldn’t give for a mod so my KC can date Neeshka (she’s really more her type, and damn it would make the final fight more tragic) or Shandra, or even Qara (although I doubt that would have ended happy for either of them, my KC is a bit of an immature ass. She crushed on Sand, hard, but it was one-sided). 

I feel most of the characters got too little development in the OC. Sand and Qara for example, like you mentioned, have so little development, and we never really hear their entire backstory (and they both need to stop acting like children). The “betrayal” seems to come out of nowhere for those two. 

I guess this is what fanfic is for, but the fandom is so small… 

I love this and am deeply amused about the fact that having just replayed NWN2 myself I come back to this post which echoes my feelings perfectly. And I would like that “everybody-shut-the-fuck-up-and-be-friends-and-grow-as-people” mod. Also Bishop hate gives me life.

I’ve kind of been wanting to write a NWN2 fanfic for years where I mess around with cut content and flesh out the campaign and characters and set Bishop on fire but the fandom is so small and Realms lore is gigantic and requires a lot of research…  Hmm. Well I might write it for myself anyway. ….also my KC is highly difficult to work with in writing, being a CN-to-CG half-elf half-drow warlock with anger management/trust issues who does not want to be here and is only here because Gith/Luskan/Nasher will kill her otherwise and has no intention of being anybody’s friend.

There has never been a group of companions who hate each other so damn much. Nobody gets along. Nobody. Except Grobnar and Shandra, apparently, and that was off screen. 

Shandra would have been my first choice for a romance, she feels like the companion who actually tries to get to know the KC rather than following them for some unknown reason or idolising them or getting angry because how dare you make me feel things! Neeshka would be my second. Buuut  Neeshka was annoyingly unromancable and Shandra fucking died.

I’ve never used the romance pack mod and am suddenly so relieved. The vanilla content is bad enough.

Bishop and Casavir needed their heads bashed together (words can not express how annoying their “rivalry” is. Also if you do romance Casavir, Bishop goes all “I would have died for you!” and it’s hysterical because it’s such utter bullshit.), Elanee…  jeez. All three of them are bleeding creepy. Bishop is… well, himself. Casavir puts the KC on a pedestal and got completely chewed out by my KC for both that and for self-harming and being willing to kill himself at her (not serious/sarcastic) request, which completely freaked her (and me) out (as the dialogue option goes, that’s not love or a noble sacrifice) and Elanee flat out admits she’s been stalking you for most of your life. All three were point blank told “stay the fuck away from me”. None of them got to leave the Inn, Elanee got kicked out and Bishop got hit in the face with an Eldricht Blast. Couldn’t do much with Casavir, so she just avoided him.

I can’t play as a male character. Elanee and Neeshka’s arguments (with the addition of Shandra) just make me want to bash my head into the wall.

Luckily there was MotB which was an improvement imo if we ignore the part where Gann and Safiya’s same gender romances got cut, but still.

Let’s talk about NWN2! I have so many thoughts and feelings about the game since I just started replaying it  let us unite in Bishop hate, delicious Bishop hate and then the KC killing that asshole at the end; dude, Sianelle doesn’t give a flying fuck about your tragic backstory, she’s here to kill the KOS and I’m… also sort of thinking about writing a fic about the OC, but I’m already writing a Fallout fic that also serves to expand on the game. it’s a bit too much and I’m just so easily distracted (but I can’t stop thinking about NWN2!).

I have so many ideas about Neeskha/f!KC or even Shandra/f!KC, if I ever write something it would probably focus on those relationships although I’m not sure what type of relationships my KC could have with either of them since she’s not the most mature person at the start of the OC. 

Casavir is almost 40 and I was playing a KC in her 20s… yeah, no, dude you could be her father, plus she was CN borderline CG so his whole “lawful, self-sacrificing” thing just gave her the creeps too.  Nevermind the way he puts her on a pedestal like you said. Not exactly a good way to start a relationship. 

Bishop is just a whole other level of creepiness, and don’t get me wrong, the game wouldn’t feel the same without his sorry ass, but damn, I don’t want him anywhere near my KC. The romance pack mod is just… weird. It’s so badly writing and Bishop acts like a completely different person in almost all the conversations (”My beautiful lady… I’ll love you forever”) it’s almost funny to play it just to see how bad and out of character he is during the whole thing. 

I actually liked Elanee before the creepy “I have been watching you since you were a baby!” revelation. Oh boy. Did they actually think this was a good idea for a romance? However, I think compared to say, Bishop, she’s pretty tolerable.

Maybe it’s because I’m really not one to be into “romance” much less into “love triangles” but the cut scenes with the arguments between the love interests just made roll my eyes.

anyone know where i can find that post with the video of that one guy playing that terrible skyrim romance mod story because i need to watch that shit again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgj57Zl2QbY

FOUND IT!

I NEVER SAW THIS HOLY SHIT IM CRYING FUCKINGD

@theshadowdreams

This is it. This is the Bishop romance mod, just imagine you’re playing it on NWN2.

And what I think we all learned from this experience is that sometimes not having romances is for the best.

Oh my god.

Although I will give credit to the modder - they got Bishop's personality perfectly up until that... confession. I'm unsure whether to laugh or scream. ...And the sort of backstep the player did when they saw Anomen was hilarious.

i will never accept the sound of my recorded voice

Kids today won’t know the pain

A horse walks into a bar. The bartender says, “you’re in here alot, are you an alcoholic?”

The horse ponders for a minute and responds “I don’t think I am” And poof he disappears

This is where philosophy students start to snicker, as they are familiar with Descartes postulate, “I think, therefore I am.”

But telling you that first would be putting Descartes before the horse

GO TO YOUR ROOM!

your fave is problematic: sigrun

Re-playing Neverwinter nights 2 just so Sianelle (my brat KC) can kill Bishop, gloat, and then make fun of him while he suffers in the wall of the faithless. Damn, I had forgotten how awful the Romance Pack Mod actually is, too bad I’m too lazy to uninstall it.  

(I have been reading fanfic and felt nostalgic… also, I’d kill for a fanfic where the KC is not a “pure maiden” and doesn’t fall in love with Bishop or Casavir)

We need a mod where the KC can tell Casavir, Bishop, Elanee, and Neeshka (but mainly Casavir and Bishop) to all go fly a kite and call them out on their tug-of-war BS

We do, a “reverse” romance mod, maybe? Really my KC was just so tired of Bishop and Casavir. She doesn’t like either of you, you guys; and while Casavir is more “tolerable” to her (she’s CN, not exactly a fan of the lawful sort) she really couldn’t care less about Bishop’s twisted feelings.

(I have so many NWN feelings right now…)

At the same time, I’d kill for a platonic mod where you can play the whole game without companion death or betrayal and tell everyone they’re like your extended family. they all learn to push past their differences and love each other for the elements they bring into the group like khelgar and neeshka did

and at the very least a grudging respect between Casavir and Bishop (or Elanee and Neeshka) so they stop arguing with each other about who should date the person who doesn’t even want either of them

A little unrelated as well, but in the same mod Qara finally learning that she doesn’t need to be held back to gain a measure of control and that she should realistically learn a thing or two to bring out her full potential, and Sand learning that breathing down Qara’s neck and berating every little thing about her because he got denied by her father at the academy won’t teach her any lessons about magic or make her want to learn. Think about it, an eventual student-mentor relationship between Qara and Sand instead of only being each others’ foils

a mod where every companion NPC can be happy and finally shut the fuck up about each other

#PERSONAL PREFERENCE HERE BUT ALSO A MOD WHERE KC CAN DATE THE SAME SEX IF THEY WANT TO #OR HAVE A SWEETHEART BACK IN WEST HARBOR #OR DATE NEVALLE/SAND/QARA/KHELGAR/SHANDRA #OR EVEN NOT CHOOSE ANY ROMANCE AT ALL AND HAVE THEIR DECISION RESPECTED WITHOUT LI’S BEING SUPER OBNOXIOUS ABOUT IT

YES. All of this, including your tags. I like to headcanon that my KC had previous relationships in West Harbor. What I wouldn’t give for a mod so my KC can date Neeshka (she’s really more her type, and damn it would make the final fight more tragic) or Shandra, or even Qara (although I doubt that would have ended happy for either of them, my KC is a bit of an immature ass. She crushed on Sand, hard, but it was one-sided). 

I feel most of the characters got too little development in the OC. Sand and Qara for example, like you mentioned, have so little development, and we never really hear their entire backstory (and they both need to stop acting like children). The “betrayal” seems to come out of nowhere for those two. 

I guess this is what fanfic is for, but the fandom is so small… 

I love this and am deeply amused about the fact that having just replayed NWN2 myself I come back to this post which echoes my feelings perfectly. And I would like that “everybody-shut-the-fuck-up-and-be-friends-and-grow-as-people” mod. Also Bishop hate gives me life.

I’ve kind of been wanting to write a NWN2 fanfic for years where I mess around with cut content and flesh out the campaign and characters and set Bishop on fire but the fandom is so small and Realms lore is gigantic and requires a lot of research...  Hmm. Well I might write it for myself anyway. ....also my KC is highly difficult to work with in writing, being a CN-to-CG half-elf half-drow warlock with anger management/trust issues who does not want to be here and is only here because Gith/Luskan/Nasher will kill her otherwise and has no intention of being anybody’s friend.

There has never been a group of companions who hate each other so damn much. Nobody gets along. Nobody. Except Grobnar and Shandra, apparently, and that was off screen. 

Shandra would have been my first choice for a romance, she feels like the companion who actually tries to get to know the KC rather than following them for some unknown reason or idolising them or getting angry because how dare you make me feel things! Neeshka would be my second. Buuut  Neeshka was annoyingly unromancable and Shandra fucking died.

I’ve never used the romance pack mod and am suddenly so relieved. The vanilla content is bad enough.

Bishop and Casavir needed their heads bashed together (words can not express how annoying their “rivalry” is. Also if you do romance Casavir, Bishop goes all “I would have died for you!” and it’s hysterical because it’s such utter bullshit.), Elanee...  jeez. All three of them are bleeding creepy. Bishop is... well, himself. Casavir puts the KC on a pedestal and got completely chewed out by my KC for both that and for self-harming and being willing to kill himself at her (not serious/sarcastic) request, which completely freaked her (and me) out (as the dialogue option goes, that’s not love or a noble sacrifice) and Elanee flat out admits she’s been stalking you for most of your life. All three were point blank told “stay the fuck away from me”. None of them got to leave the Inn, Elanee got kicked out and Bishop got hit in the face with an Eldricht Blast. Couldn’t do much with Casavir, so she just avoided him.

I can’t play as a male character. Elanee and Neeshka’s arguments (with the addition of Shandra) just make me want to bash my head into the wall.

Luckily there was MotB which was an improvement imo if we ignore the part where Gann and Safiya’s same gender romances got cut, but still.

I wonder what hobbies are available to the Dalish. As in games and such? I mean obviously you can start carving a small army of tiny wooden halla to drive your clan up the wall (Ilen), or go on long walks, or take up halla-riding or practice archery…

They have some kind of puzzle-thing called “June’s knot”, I don’t know what that is but for some reason I picture an elven rubik’s cube.

I imagine they share some hobbies with the outside world. Maybe chess and wicked grace and other card games. Possibly some they picked up off of dwarven merchants? idk.

But do they have unique board games? Card games? Sports? What do their children do for entertainment?

???

For the children I’m imagining a lot of verbal word games like Whisper (a Dalish equivalent of the telephone game), One Sentence Story (where each child takes a turn at ‘controlling’ the story for a sentence at a time), and Corrupt a Wish (person A wishes for something, person B grants it with an undesirable consequence, then makes a wish themselves and so on). Of course for the more irritable members of the clan there is also ‘the quiet game’. 

And for all the dads, really corny jokes.

‘What sound does a metal wolf make?”

“Umm…”

“Ironbark!” 

I imagine their elders mixing dyes to allow them to color on whatever surface is readily available to ‘create their own animals’ as Ghilan’ain was said to. 

“So, it’s a wolf, but with scales like a dragon, and horns like a halla, and it’s bald like a nug, wait - no - only bald on it’s underbelly, ‘cause the scales. Also a tail like a scorpion!”

Also envisioning a holiday where the children find clues and are encouraged to solve simple riddles and walk a ‘path’ within the camp to find ‘treasure’ which is either like sweet cakes or minature wood carvings. 

I now need a million more Dalish-dad jokes. I wonder how many puns you can make in elven?

The last one reminds me of my “hide-and-seek” headcanon where somebody’s Ghilan’nain (tied to a tree after that issue with the hunter) and the others are Andruil’s hawks and hares looking for her. Usually played on Ghilan’nain’s festivals.

Playing “Emerald Knights” and everybody is arguing over who gets to be who (kids descended from the knights start throwing tantrums if somebody else wants to be their ancestor because “they’re my ancestor! I get to be them!”)

I wonder how many clans ended up with their own games? Clan Sabrae’s children end up with a new game called “let’s bet on what Tamlen and Mahariel are going to do next to royaly piss off the hahrens!” It’s called the Tamlen game. Because I’m pretty sure he’s the worse offender.

A Lavellan Inquisitor writing frequent letters to their clan could prompt the same type of ‘role-playing’. 

‘Um, I get to be the Inquisitor because I was the last one they said ‘you’re adorable’ to before they left.’

‘I want to be Briala! She gets to wear a mask and has an army of spiders.’

‘Nehn, Briala has an army of spies not spiders.’

‘… Oh. Still!’

‘I call dibs on Vivienne! I want a hat with horns.’

‘Yeah, horns! I call The Iron Bull. Lysene you can be Varric.’

‘Because I’m short?’

‘No, because you’re a good storyteller. And also short.’

‘Well I might as well be Cole because it appears I’m already invisible!’

‘Who said that?!’

I wonder if there’s any squabbles over the parts of elven members of the Inquisition? Probably.

EVERYONE would want to be Sera. A few are so adamant that the others decided to let there be multiple Seras and be done with it. 

Solas would inevitably be played by the jokester type who would not take his role remotely seriously. 

‘Ah yes, Herald, this mark appears to indeed be green. Fascinating. I’m off to take a nap, I’ve been awake since this morning.’

‘It’s still morning Solas.’

*pretends to faint and mumbles ‘i hate tea foul demon be gone!’ under their breath*

This needs fanart of baby elves playing Inquisition

Awkwardness ensues regarding romance. Extra awkwardness if Solas was romanced.

Every letter from home Lavellan gets is asking for details so that they can play their games better. I wonder if any of the companions actually send letters to the kids to answer them?

Also I’d bet that any kids related to Lavellan (children, cousins, nieces, nephews, etc) would fight extra hard to be them.

I wonder what hobbies are available to the Dalish. As in games and such? I mean obviously you can start carving a small army of tiny wooden halla to drive your clan up the wall (Ilen), or go on long walks, or take up halla-riding or practice archery…

They have some kind of puzzle-thing called “June’s knot”, I don’t know what that is but for some reason I picture an elven rubik’s cube.

I imagine they share some hobbies with the outside world. Maybe chess and wicked grace and other card games. Possibly some they picked up off of dwarven merchants? idk.

But do they have unique board games? Card games? Sports? What do their children do for entertainment?

???

For the children I’m imagining a lot of verbal word games like Whisper (a Dalish equivalent of the telephone game), One Sentence Story (where each child takes a turn at ‘controlling’ the story for a sentence at a time), and Corrupt a Wish (person A wishes for something, person B grants it with an undesirable consequence, then makes a wish themselves and so on). Of course for the more irritable members of the clan there is also ‘the quiet game’. 

And for all the dads, really corny jokes.

‘What sound does a metal wolf make?”

“Umm…”

“Ironbark!” 

I imagine their elders mixing dyes to allow them to color on whatever surface is readily available to ‘create their own animals’ as Ghilan’ain was said to. 

“So, it’s a wolf, but with scales like a dragon, and horns like a halla, and it’s bald like a nug, wait - no - only bald on it’s underbelly, ‘cause the scales. Also a tail like a scorpion!”

Also envisioning a holiday where the children find clues and are encouraged to solve simple riddles and walk a ‘path’ within the camp to find ‘treasure’ which is either like sweet cakes or minature wood carvings. 

I now need a million more Dalish-dad jokes. I wonder how many puns you can make in elven?

The last one reminds me of my “hide-and-seek” headcanon where somebody’s Ghilan’nain (tied to a tree after that issue with the hunter) and the others are Andruil’s hawks and hares looking for her. Usually played on Ghilan’nain’s festivals.

Playing “Emerald Knights” and everybody is arguing over who gets to be who (kids descended from the knights start throwing tantrums if somebody else wants to be their ancestor because “they’re my ancestor! I get to be them!”)

I wonder how many clans ended up with their own games? Clan Sabrae’s children end up with a new game called “let’s bet on what Tamlen and Mahariel are going to do next to royaly piss off the hahrens!” It’s called the Tamlen game. Because I’m pretty sure he’s the worse offender.

A Lavellan Inquisitor writing frequent letters to their clan could prompt the same type of ‘role-playing’. 

‘Um, I get to be the Inquisitor because I was the last one they said ‘you’re adorable’ to before they left.’

‘I want to be Briala! She gets to wear a mask and has an army of spiders.’

‘Nehn, Briala has an army of spies not spiders.’

‘… Oh. Still!’

‘I call dibs on Vivienne! I want a hat with horns.’

‘Yeah, horns! I call The Iron Bull. Lysene you can be Varric.’

‘Because I’m short?’

‘No, because you’re a good storyteller. And also short.’

‘Well I might as well be Cole because it appears I’m already invisible!’

‘Who said that?!’

I wonder if there’s any squabbles over the parts of elven members of the Inquisition? Probably.

I wonder what hobbies are available to the Dalish. As in games and such? I mean obviously you can start carving a small army of tiny wooden halla to drive your clan up the wall (Ilen), or go on long walks, or take up halla-riding or practice archery…

They have some kind of puzzle-thing called “June’s knot”, I don’t know what that is but for some reason I picture an elven rubik’s cube.

I imagine they share some hobbies with the outside world. Maybe chess and wicked grace and other card games. Possibly some they picked up off of dwarven merchants? idk.

But do they have unique board games? Card games? Sports? What do their children do for entertainment?

???

For the children I’m imagining a lot of verbal word games like Whisper (a Dalish equivalent of the telephone game), One Sentence Story (where each child takes a turn at ‘controlling’ the story for a sentence at a time), and Corrupt a Wish (person A wishes for something, person B grants it with an undesirable consequence, then makes a wish themselves and so on). Of course for the more irritable members of the clan there is also ‘the quiet game’. 

And for all the dads, really corny jokes.

‘What sound does a metal wolf make?”

“Umm…”

“Ironbark!” 

I imagine their elders mixing dyes to allow them to color on whatever surface is readily available to ‘create their own animals’ as Ghilan’ain was said to. 

“So, it’s a wolf, but with scales like a dragon, and horns like a halla, and it’s bald like a nug, wait - no - only bald on it’s underbelly, ‘cause the scales. Also a tail like a scorpion!”

Also envisioning a holiday where the children find clues and are encouraged to solve simple riddles and walk a ‘path’ within the camp to find ‘treasure’ which is either like sweet cakes or minature wood carvings. 

I now need a million more Dalish-dad jokes. I wonder how many puns you can make in elven?

The last one reminds me of my “hide-and-seek” headcanon where somebody’s Ghilan’nain (tied to a tree after that issue with the hunter) and the others are Andruil’s hawks and hares looking for her. Usually played on Ghilan’nain’s festivals.

Playing “Emerald Knights” and everybody is arguing over who gets to be who (kids descended from the knights start throwing tantrums if somebody else wants to be their ancestor because “they’re my ancestor! I get to be them!”)

I wonder how many clans ended up with their own games? Clan Sabrae’s children end up with a new game called “let’s bet on what Tamlen and Mahariel are going to do next to royaly piss off the hahrens!” It’s called the Tamlen game. Because I’m pretty sure he’s the worse offender.

Dalish children sitting in the mud and drawing vallaslin on theirs and their friends’ faces.

Dalish children running around naked until they become apprentices and the warriors and hunters don armor for the first time.

Dalish children about to become apprentices who steal one of the clan’s halla for a rite-of-passage joy ride that has half the adults screaming and the other half cheering.

Dalish children learning from trial and error which bugs and leaves are safe to eat and which should only be touched if you want a medical emergency.

Dalish children who never get sick catching a cold for the first time and convinced they’re dying.

Dalish children sleeping in and outside of aravels in piles of limbs and smooshed faces.

Dalish children always getting something to eat even if the hunters have to starve themselves.

Dalish children growing up speaking their clan’s colloquial mish-mash of Elven and the country’s Common.

Dalish children learning that lethallin and lethallan are synonyms for trust and love and home.

Dalish children (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧