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Call me Beth! 30. Ace Lesbian. Multifandom and multi-shipping! Currently just a mess of whatever I’m watching.
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I don't know what's funnier:

Knives Out and Glass Onion existing in the same universe as Dead Boy Detectives and Benoit Blanc and the agency meeting during a case (bc Blanc and Edwin would get along swimmingly)

Or

Niko and Edwin watching Knives Out and Glass Onion together and Edwin being absolutely absorbed and delighted by the detective work and charmed by Blanc and his husband Philip

Yesssss I said we need to have Edwin watch Knives Out after Scooby Doo!!

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Without Mr. Knightley's interference and positive influence on her, I think there's actually a good chance Emma would have ended up a lot like Lady Catherine...

She already is meddling with other people's business, sure to know what's best for everyone and jealous when others are more accomplished than she, yet disinclined to actually work on herself and rather... haughty.

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"Do you think it has to be torture? Being the way we are?"

Im rewatching dead boy detectives and this. This line kills me. I know its nothing big. But it hits me in the gut.

Do you think it has to be torture? Being queer? And I know they come from a different time, but is today *that* different? I know being queer isnt wrong. I know its something I can take pride in. Of course I know.

But all those night spent crying, do they have to be? All the milestones missed or experiences gotten way too late, do they have to be? Looking at yourself and feeling disgust, and pain, does it have to be? Thinking something is wrong with you, does it have to be? Not realising your love is different? Your body? Your soul? Does it have to be?

Of course it doesnt.

But the voice in my head, will it ever think that? The pain from dysphoria, and social prejudice, and probably internalised queerphobia, will it ever go away? Nights thinking I can never find love, because my love is too different? Its ace and not straight and somewhat aromantic and queer with every fiber of its being. Will these nights finally be quiet?

Will I ever be kind to my queer self?

Of course my queer identity isnt a curse. Its not wrong or bad. Its not inherintely painful. I know it can be pretty. Beautiful. Special. I know. But still, thinking.

"Do you think it has to be torture? Being the way we are?"

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recently got into Leverage and I have to say. Elliot and Hardison are the PREMIERE example of the Texas/Deep South relationship. it's like. I hate you. I'd jump off a bridge for you. you're the worst person I have ever met. you're the only one who understands me in this room full of yankees. I'd give you a kidney, but you canNOT have my beer.

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The idea of Hob and Johanna interacting with the DBD is so hilarious because I don't think either of them would treat the boys differently because they're dead, but for very different reasons.

Hob's just a sweetheart who misses being a dad, whereas Johanna just hates children of all kinds.

So there's just the moment of

"Does she hate us because we're dead?" "Ah! No. She hates you because you're teenagers."
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Yeah no 100% this is exactly how it goes. Hob is thrilled to adopt an adorable pair of teenage ghosts and would stock their fridge and do their laundry for them if he could (Crystal he is v. excited to do these things for, she's his perfect daughter lbr). Johanna is absolutely fine with the ghost bit, that's normal, people are allowed to be ghosts (this is preferable to immortality even bc you can banish ghosts but you can't do anything about Hob). What she would like people not to be, if at all possible, is under 28.

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You Can’t Do Anything About Hob!!!

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Why did it took me so long to figure out that Edwin can take so much pain (unlike other ghosts) because he is one of Despair's?

If Dream likes you, you get inspiration

If Desire likes you, everybody wants you

And if Despair likes you... you experience more pain than others? Doesn't seem fair

I think it’s more Endurance than pain.

Also The Twins pulling him back and forth like a favorite Shared Toy

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"What am I? The answers are Endless, Edwin Payne. Pretty name. 'Payne.'" "I am… Why are you here?" "You're here. I'm everywhere. You're in my realm now, where I see it all. But you only get to leave through the door you came in by."

Donna Preston as Despair of the Endless and George Rexstrew as Edwin Payne in Dead Boy Detectives (2024-), 1x07 - "The Case of the Very Long Stairway"

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Holmes when a woman needs help: Watson, immediately, we must leave. Yes now, right now, no I don’t care if I’m in withdrawal, I must save her. I will adopt her, she will be my own. She can’t pay? Her safety is payment enough, I would do anything for my daughter

Holmes when a rich man needs help: … I don’t know, maybe. He’ll pay? A lot of money? … might have to think about it. He thinks his life is in immediate danger? Bit dramatic, don’t you think? (Ends up solving the case more out of wanting to solve a case rather than help the client)

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Sort of bums me out that so many people didn't seem to Get the Cat King so here are my thoughts:

So let's start with Edwin's crime. He uses something the cat desires (a sardine) to lure the cat to him and then uses an enchanted string to trap the cat with magic. He demands the answer to a question in exchange for its release. Edwin knows it is dangerous to use magic on a cat, that it violates Rules but he does it anyway.

Binding a creature and agreeing to set them free under a certain condition is very Classic Fairytale. its also a favourite trope of Neil Gaiman's (he did not write this show but his influence is there). In both the Sandman and his novel Stardust (and the film adaptation) trapping a creature with magic and demanding a task/favour in exchange for their freedom is an extremely important plot point. Edwin binding a cat and demanding an answer in exchange is exactly in line with this Fairytale trope

And so is the Cat Kings response. The Cat King is a trickster. What he does to Edwin is exactly what Edwin did to one of his subjects. He entices Edwin, he binds him with magic and when Edwin demands to be free he turns his own words against him "why all the fuss for one little spell?" Edwin did something wrong. He imposed his will/magic on another creature and the Cat King is punishing him for it in a way that is poetic. Its fairytale. its trickster. its classic.

I've also seen people complain that the task Edwin was given 'count all the cats' is 'impossible'...except its fucking not. Edwin does it. He does it so well he actually BEATS the Cat King ("you didn't count yourself" Are.You.Kidding.Me. Classic!Fairytale!Vibes!)

The Cat Kings choice to bind Edwin to Port Townsend is good on so many levels. From a storytelling perspective it forces characters who can travel anywhere in the world to stay in one place, and increases the stakes for these characters who are supposed to be on the run. From a genre perspective...its an excellent use of fairytale tropes using both Rules of magic, a protagonist who is unkind to a seemingly weak creature who is punished by a more powerful law, a binding, a task to complete, etc

Which just leaves the character perspective which it ALSO does really fucking well and introduces the final aspect to the Cat Kings character. He's seductive. He is responsible for Edwin, 100 years old ghost boy, finally unpacking his internalized homophpbia. he is the catalyst (cat pun not intended)

He pushes Edwin, challenges him, at times literally forces the truth out of Edwin, but he really never does violate his consent. Significantly Edwin is attracted to him, like its an important part of his character that he is. He may not like the Cat King but he is attracted to him!

The Cat King is such a great example of a trickster, a morally grey character who imposes a sense of justice on Edwin after he crosses a line, but also has his own selfish interests and meddles. Hes so important to the plot of the show, to Edwin's character arc, to the genre.

And he's just fun. Unapologetically queer, powerful, complicated. Silly little outfits. Petty cat behavior. Deep heart.

Some of you just didn't get it. And I'm sorry for you. because the Cat King is Excellent actually.

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