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Where the Admin of Repair-Her-Armor answers your asks plus make reviews of certain media's representation of women and, of course, female armor.
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Thank you! I’m really glad to hear this. It’s always nice to hear positive feedback once you return from such a long break.

The main admin Tica, however, is still at hiatus. It’s currently mostly being run by the secondary admin, Uggla, who’s doing a great job at keeping this blog alive. You have her to thank!

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This blog is missed!

sigiledpaladin submitted:

I dunno if I sent this a while ago, but this blog is awesome, and missed. I understand you’re on hiatus, but this is something that really opened my eyes in a lot of ways, and I think is a positive tool for the media environment we live in. I hope the hiatus can be resolved one way or another.  

Hey sigiledpaladin! Thank you for this message. It really makes me happy to know that this blog is still appreciated and missed and I am sorry for taking for taking so long with my hiatus. Fact is, I’m considering ending it (the hiatus, that is). I thought that admins would help me keep this blog live and running, but it turns out it wouldn’t be that way. And truth is, this blog really stressed me for a while and I alone could not run it.

However! Things are looking more chill now and I might soon start posting things again! I must tell you, there are several things in our inbox that I’m dying to post. It’s really making me excited!

Again, thank you for your message! RHA might come back soon! ♥

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To be completely honest, everyone, I can’t remember ever putting this in the Queue. Really. No memory of it at all. Either way, I feel like it doesn’t quite fit RHA; I don’t see the outfit as horrible (especially considering what kind of “armor” she usually wears) or even bad, in fact, I’ve seen equally many men and women bear similar outfits.

Anyway, just thought you’d know that.

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Your Honor, I pledge memory loss!

That sounds like a quote straight from a Phoenix Wright game. If y’know what I mean.

On a serious note though, it’s no wonder I don’t remember every single post that’s in the queue. RHA had literally over hundreds of posts in the queue; it’s simply impossible to remember every one of them.

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Figured I'd post this here, too. Just to let everyone know.

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anomenon submitted to ria-rha:

Have you heard about the latest sequel to Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning Returns? A demo was recently released to showcase some of the outfits in the game and http://www.gamefreaks.co.nz/2013/11/12/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-interactive-trailer-lets-choose-outfit/ (its a bunch of links to gameplay footage featuring each individual costume) some of these outfits seem quite nicely designed and dignified. Others just seem very poor quality with bad texturing. Someone else has already taken some screenshots of a few of the worse outfits http://psdo.tumblr.com/post/66716654884#notes in case you can’t get a good view of some of these in the video.
These designs are quite sad, really. The combat gameplay seriously caught my interest, but some of these outfits were so jarring to my eyes, I’d rather just pass or wait to buy the game until easily accessible mods exist to fix or remove them.

I cherry picked the worst from the second link, the first looks like what I wore to prom (minus the sword, though I would’ve if I could’ve), the second honestly looks like something out of a Rob Liefeld comic, and the third is the DLC costume based on Final Fantasy XIV, meaning we actually have two games with crappy armor here.

As I’ve mentioned a few times before, I’m a huge fan of the first FFXIII, but even it has some problems with Lightning’s outfit. However, the lone issue of “combat miniskirt” pretty much pales in comparison to some of the “armors” from Lightning Returns. The worst problem with this is that the combat system combines the paradigm system of the first two games with the dressphere system from FFX-2, meaning that your combat abilities change with what you’re wearing. So if you want to use certain abilities, you have to switch to some of these awful outfits. And on top of being highly impractical, wildly sexist (Lightning’s breast size was increased for this game because the developer wanted more sex appeal) and completely out of line with Lightning’s character, who is supposed to be completely ignorant of fashion and prefers practical clothing, the outfits are just plain bad aesthetically. Loads of people love giving Tetsuya Nomura crap for basically sticking to belts and zippers for all of his designs, but look what happens when you let someone else design the outfits. At least Nomura understands color balance and how an outfit should flow, even if they’re impractical for battle. 

I was basically done with the series once they decided time travel was a good idea but even if I wasn’t, I’d avoid this game simply because I don’t want my eyes to bleed. 

-Astro

Correction: Nomura didn't do the outfits for XIII-2 but he took back over for Lightning Returns. He's lost his touch, I think. These are a whole new level of ridiculous.

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anomenon submitted to ria-rha:

Have you heard about the latest sequel to Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning Returns? A demo was recently released to showcase some of the outfits in the game and http://www.gamefreaks.co.nz/2013/11/12/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-interactive-trailer-lets-choose-outfit/ (its a bunch of links to gameplay footage featuring each individual costume) some of these outfits seem quite nicely designed and dignified. Others just seem very poor quality with bad texturing. Someone else has already taken some screenshots of a few of the worse outfits http://psdo.tumblr.com/post/66716654884#notes in case you can't get a good view of some of these in the video.
These designs are quite sad, really. The combat gameplay seriously caught my interest, but some of these outfits were so jarring to my eyes, I'd rather just pass or wait to buy the game until easily accessible mods exist to fix or remove them.

I cherry picked the worst from the second link, the first looks like what I wore to prom (minus the sword, though I would've if I could've), the second honestly looks like something out of a Rob Liefeld comic, and the third is the DLC costume based on Final Fantasy XIV, meaning we actually have two games with crappy armor here.

As I've mentioned a few times before, I'm a huge fan of the first FFXIII, but even it has some problems with Lightning's outfit. However, the lone issue of "combat miniskirt" pretty much pales in comparison to some of the "armors" from Lightning Returns. The worst problem with this is that the combat system combines the paradigm system of the first two games with the dressphere system from FFX-2, meaning that your combat abilities change with what you're wearing. So if you want to use certain abilities, you have to switch to some of these awful outfits. And on top of being highly impractical, wildly sexist (Lightning's breast size was increased for this game because the developer wanted more sex appeal) and completely out of line with Lightning's character, who is supposed to be completely ignorant of fashion and prefers practical clothing, the outfits are just plain bad aesthetically. Loads of people love giving Tetsuya Nomura crap for basically sticking to belts and zippers for all of his designs, but look what happens when you let someone else design the outfits. At least Nomura understands color balance and how an outfit should flow, even if they're impractical for battle. 

I was basically done with the series once they decided time travel was a good idea but even if I wasn't, I'd avoid this game simply because I don't want my eyes to bleed. 

-Astro

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Things I (Tica) Answered during the RHA Chat

A. Noyd: Well, I was wondering if you had any comments on how "female" versions of armor seem to so often leave the thighs bare even if everything else is covered.

Tica: I think, in a way, that many think this is a "default" way to show femininity and sex appeal. Like, we can't have them too masculine, can we? To be completely honest, the lack of pants frustrates me more than boob-plates do.

A. Noyd: Same here. At least boob plates cover (unless they're all cleavage-y). And I think it's especially terrible if the character rides some sort of mount.

A. Noyd: Like... ow?

A. Noyd: Anyway, it creeps me out because it seems to indicate not just sex appeal but access to that area for the sake of the viewer/player.

Tica: Precisely. Boob-plates, in my opinion, is more of a mistake than a "look". Many does without thinking that it's not logically possible (or comfortable) because I suppose they think it's okay since some plate-armor in the past are "chest shaped" on men. Many don't seem to think about the fact that breasts doesn't work the same way. Bare thighs is more about sex appeal than ignorance.

followerofthemightyyahootie: elder scrolls v: skyrim. Generally has good armor for women. You just get the occasional boob plate.

Tica: There are many good armors that has done the mistake boob-plate when all else is good. If they fixed that, it would be perfect.
Tica: I would suppose the reason why boob plates are made are because they still want to keep the "female shape" which is alright, but there's no need for boob-plates to achieve that. See this post, for example: http://zachariah-s.tumblr.com/image/7566... You can still tell she's a woman even if there's nothing to define her chest.

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A. Noyd: Another thing that really gets to me is when there's no padding under the armor.

Tica: I can actually accept it to some degree, for example in fantasy armor. I fully accept that some armor are not meant to be realistic, but merely stylistic, which is fine. As long as you don't use that excuse to sexualize the female characters.

A. Noyd: The more sexualized the armor, the less I bother imagining that. Though, if it's just clothes, that's another thing.

Tica: Hm? How do you mean?

A. Noyd: Well, sexualized armor, my mind is just like "hell no, that's too wrong." Doesn't compute. If you're doing something you need armor for, you wear something that makes sense.

A. Noyd: Clothes you can get away with revealing more because, in my mind, it's normal not to cover everything.

A. Noyd: So I can relate to that whereas I cannot relate to skimpy, sexualized armor.

Tica: Yes. While armor can be designed to represent the character - it should still be armor. (Normal) clothes have, however, a bit more freedom when it comes to that. However, female "normal wear" seem so limited in media, it's always supposed to be either "cute" or "sexy". I really don't mind a sexy character; but the lack of variation does bad for that. If every female character is sexy, armored or not, then who actually is?

A. Noyd: On the other hand, my mind is happy to mentally "try on" non-sexualized armor, but if it has no padding--if it's metal directly on the skin or something--that just ruins my suspension of disbelief.

A. Noyd: Yeah, and guys should have more variety. Give them sexy and cute, too. Especially in MMOs.

Tica: The worst part is when they have metal directly against their chest or crotches. It makes me whine in pain, owowow. I've seen metal bras and thongs so many times it hurts. More often than that, I've seen metal "claws" against these parts which makes even more painful to think about.
Tica: (...) And as for variation for men; absolutely. There's more than just shirts and pants, but they lack variation for a different reason.

A. Noyd: Yeah, and I think some of the lack of variety for men is there's this idea that it's "unmanly" to play dress-up. But guys frickin' LOVE that.

Tica: The media industry is terrified of making men "feminine" because it's seen as a bad thing on men. But at the same time, they love to ​overdo ​ this on women to the point where it'll look ridiculous.

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Tica: (... On another subject) What I find interesting are people who says "they have magic, so they don't need armor"; but they still use armor? I mean, sure, it's still a small amount of it, but they're still wearing it. Wouldn't it better, in that case, that they were completely naked? And why does this "rule" only apply to female characters?

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Heemiliation: Greetings! I'm just going to get right to business: Are you worried about copyright infringement for tracing professional art, and encouraging others to do so as well?

Tica: Hello! I'm going to be honest with you; yes and no. The reason NO is because it's official art, which means it can be altered to my liking as long as I don't claim it as mine or use it for commercial purposes. As a to-be concept artist myself, I know that the professionals are well-aware that this will happen. You just have to be professional about it. The reason YES is because I don't want anyone to think this is alright with non-official art.

Nammish: Also, you can technically claim the altered art under parody

Tica: Exactly. Needless to say, I did my research before I created RHA.

Heemiliation: Good. Still gets my blood boiling as an artist though when I see people altering artwork. It's like scribbling over a good print with crayons half the time. Or sonic recolors.

Ozzie Scribbler (BABD mod): let's be real: Sonic recolors are famous for the "Original character, PLZ don't steal", while RHA or Escher Girls makes it really clear that redraws are for critical/educational purposes, which is a-okay in the light of copyright

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Ozzie Scribbler (BABD mod): Tica: (sorry if someone asked before) how does your indefinite hiatus look right now

Tica: No worries! No one has asked. And well, I'm not quite sure. I was -really- inactive with RHA for a while before. There was so much going on and I barely even had time to think. But right now, I have energy to at least visit the blog, read the posts a bit, look through my emails and of course, chat a bit. However, I still don't have the energy to handle my inbox at the moment. It takes time I don't have; I'm really stressed with school right now, and some emotional issues. And I don't know why, but the admins haven't said a word lately, either, so in reality, I feel like a really bad host to RHA.

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Citrine: Oh! I do have a question, actually: Is it okay to submit a redraw that mostly fixes her weapon stance?

Tica: Citrine: Hmmm... that is a good question. Perhaps that's more EscherGirls material? Care to show an example of how you mean?

Citrine: Pretty much every time I see a picture of a fictional archer, I cringe. One especially bad one isn't up on eshergirls but it is on rha, so I wondered.

Tica: Well really, EG and RHA tends to go hand-in hand when it comes to those things. But if you did fix the outfit, even if it's just a little, you can still submit it to RHA.
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what’s wrong with it? So we’ve got a little cheek action, but this isn’t horrifying. Fantasy armor is mostly impractical, and this isn’t disgusting. I’d just fix the pose, maybe. Nothing wrong with looking sexy so long as she’s her own person.

The problem is that she is an sexualized child-like character. Period.

She got every childish feature there is; baby-face, childish body (even with the lil baby-fat still on), cutesy clothes... For example, you can't look at this and think "adult woman", when you see her compared to the other ladies in the game:

Trust me, it gets worse. She has a childish voice (in the original version) and even an childish posture. She even got childish emotes. Yet she's always pictured like this. Now, let's not forget that this game is pretty much built ONLY to sexualize women. And no, it's not me saying that just cause how they look; I actually played it to really see how it was. There was constant sexual puns (often how the girls would "serve" the player who was obviously supposed to be a heterosexual male... although you play as a girl. And I suppose you know what I mean by "serve"). And not only that; if you pay some real money, you can see the girls completely naked. No need for armor when you can have bouncing boobs - Except for Sentinel. Well, at least you get to stare at her butt. This guy explains this game pretty well. Scarlet Blade in a nutshell.

Or, if you go to their Wiki, here's what they have to say about Sentinel:

"Ugh oh my God yes I'm old enough to be on this site! I hate explaining that, so if you message me just to ask, don't. I was engineered to look this way!. I can't help it! It's so old getting carded every time I try to buy a gun or a motorcycle, believe me. Also, next time some guy calls me a "damsel in distress", he's getting shot in the balls. Seriously.
I like girly stuff like shopping and fashion, but mostly I like killing bad guys. Narak, mutants, murderous drug addicts...chasing them down and shooting them in the head is the best thing ever. I guess I just want someone to chat with while I do it. I don't want to be tied down, though. I'm not that old yet!"

Yes. They even have to point out that "she's not a child" and that "she's old enough for this game" but yet they admit that they "made her that way". When you have to explain something like that, you know something is fucked up. Also, her age is 18. That's just by the "acceptable" age, because hey, she's NOT that old yet. *rolls eyes* And take note how all classes want someone to "have as company".

It went to the point where they had to censore her so that she wouldn't get banned. Which, ended up with them making this;

Which is not what I'd call an improvement.

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Anon: I don't play games to be dressed as boringly as a man

Sorry, you're missing the obvious points here.

  1. Armor =/= "men's wear".
  2. There are MANY examples, in games especially, of what people consider "feminine" armor/clothes/etc. I mean. Really. There are plenty examples. No doubt. And thousand more ways to do it.
  3. Our goal isn't to "dress as men" but to be treated equally, instead of some sexy fan service objects. And variety. Not everyone wants to wear a bikini as an armor, nor does everyone want to dress in frilly dresses. Variety. In fact, seeing some guys in frilly dresses or running around in briefs-only armor would be nice, if we women constantly have to.
  4. Men's fashion can be really nice, too. :c
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jaffre asked:
What do you think of Skullgirls? I've played it a bit and it's overall a really cool game, and the animation of the characters is simply fabulous. But the only character I'm comfortable playing with is Peacock. I love the concepts of the characters but sometimes I just feel like I'm playing a porn fighting game. Do they all need to have short skirts and bouncing boobs?
What bother me the most, when I think more about it, is that all the characters from Skullgirls look like different male fantasies. I'm not bothered by all of them, but Filia, Parasoul and Valentine are just too much.

In a perfect world, Skullgirls would be one of my favorite things. A game with all-female fighters! How cool! But, alas, we do not live in a perfect world.

Skullgirls rather overtly caters to male-gaze. Which is a shame because it detracts from an otherwise solid game. The art is wonderful and, from what I hear, so is the gameplay. (Admission [in case this paragraph hasn't made it clear]: I haven't played this game.)

I guess what I'm saying is that sometimes there are good things that could be great things if only they didn't have that one element of exclusion. That one element can change from thing to thing, but when it's there, it becomes hard to overlook. Ideally, I should be able to research a game and just think whether I want to play it or not. With Skullgirls, my first thought is, "Oh, this is for boys." Even though there's no reason for that to be my first impression, not with a few tweaks to presentation.

Peacock, by the way, looks great. I love the classic cartoon vibe she has.

-Staci

[OH HEY ADMINS has someone actually played Skullgirls? If so, please hi-jack this post and erase the nonsense I have written. I think someone who's played it'd be able to give a much better response. Thank you :) ] 

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Turns out my master Kill La Kill post wasn't so masterful after all. Here's some of the feedback we've gotten:

rockett-man submitted:
Kill la Kill, female empowerment, and the Male gaze.
Repair her armor, I love you. I love what you’re doing. But I have to step in with a few of the points brought up in the Kill la Kill post. I bring this point up not necessarily trying to DEFEND it but sort of explain a few things about the symbolism of the show before you go into it trying to bring up menstruation when blood sacrifice is a trope anime has used since forever. Now, I wouldn’t able to even talk about this without the help of THIS post, so instead of just stealing what’s said there and putting it here I’ll just have that link there for you to read. 
The reason I bring this up is because I feel as though the symbolism in this show is one the people behind this blog and it’s followers would appreciate. First off, a coming of age tale centering around a female character is rare in and of itself, and being about a topic that’s exclusive to females is downright amazing. Our Heroine isn’t able to unlock the full power of her Kamuy until she stops feeling ashamed about the revealing outfit. In the first few episodes she doesn’t even LIKE the thing but accepts the fact that it’s something she has to put on to find out who killed her father, but still feels shame about it. It’s not until she can stop feeling shame for the way people look at her that she can really tap into the power of the uniform. Our main villain feels zero shame about the uniform because she considers herself above everyone else. Let them look, it won’t change the fact that they don’t even come close to her strength.
Like the power point said, Kill la Kill is an anime about the struggles women face as they mature and uses the sexualization as a way to drive that point home.
They do this on top of the fact that both the protagonist and antagonist of the show are female. They do this on top of making fantastic powerful female characters. This show is a lot smarter than people are giving it credit for and I don’t think period blood is one of the things it was trying to portray by giving both the female protagonist and antagonist the most powerful objects in the show.
Now, I know the very first argument will probably consist of other ways that they could have done that while making it more tasteful and I’m not saying there wasn’t. But it wouldn’t have been Kill la Kill if they. And it probably wouldn’t have driven the point home as well.
bigbird90:
Your post about Kill La Kill bothered me.  I love the blog. Love what y’all are doing. I myself, am disgusted that there aren’t more blogs like yours. I cannot stand the bikini armor shit. But I don’t think it’s okay to start fucking with outfits that are CLEARLY supposed to be sexual and kinda ridiculous. This isn’t an anime that is making female soldiers slutty when they really have no buisiness doing so. The show’s theme, however odd and possibly distasteful, is about the slutty outfits. There is a difference. One is using females as sex objects in an otherwise serious or whatever based anime/game/show. The other is doing it intentional and apart of the theme of the show.  Fixing the outfits because you think it’s distasteful would be wrong. There is nothing wrong with making a show that is ABOUT sexualizing people. Because you watch it to laugh at that and you know what you’re watching.  Again, I respect everything you’re doing. But doing this is simply distasteful.

Now, first, I want to say I am not familiar with every piece of media out there. I'd like to be. If it were possible to get an IV drip of all the video games, anime, comic books, and movies going directly into my brain, I'd be all over that. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist (as far as I know?).

So, no, I haven't seen Kill La Kill.

That said, we have an open submission system. I'm not going to turn something away if I don't agree that it needed to be fixed in the first place. There have been some like that. There will be more in the future, I'm sure.

Back to the feedback:

putdrawingsonmybody submitted:
What do you think of this? A friend sent it to me recently and I thought it was a really interesting interpretation of Kill La Kill, but I wanted to hear your thoughts.
makiruz submitted:
Kill La Kill: A Visual Guide to Understanding Female and Empowerment and the Male Gaze skaboyjfk.tumblr.com

This is something I know about Kill La Kill. I haven’t watched the show yet, so I can’t give my personal impressions yet; but I get from other sources that it’s right. Basically it says that the deliberately ridiculous sexualization in Kil La Kill is the Point of the show, and that’s it’s supposed to be a satire and a metaphor for Puberty.

I suppose I shouldn't expect people to have known who's talking this whole time. This is Staci. Hi. I'm female. So, hey, I went through that coming-of-age thing that appears to be the theme of Kill La Kill. I remember when I started to be treated as a series of parts instead of a person. That's terrifying.

Right. Now, keep in mind all this commentary from me, I'm going off this feedback we got. Including this one that's on the opposite side of the fence:

afrighteningbeastappears submitted:
LOL All these people bitching about how the KLK armour is supposed to make a point about “women being able to wear what they want”.
To my knowledge, Ryuko (or however her name is spelled), didn’t /want/ to wear that outfit. She was embarrassed by it and wished it would cover her up more… And I thought feminism was about women being able to make their own choices?
Even if her embarrassment was stemmed from how the outfit was received, if she didn’t /want/ to wear it, she never should have /had/ to, irregardless of the circumstances. It never should have been that skimpy to begin with (come on, people, this is /armour/, not casual clothing) and the fact that people are defending this as /empowering/ is ridiculous. It was never her power to begin with, it stripped her of her autonomy, it caused her personal shame where said shame shouldn’t have existed, and is essentially making the statement that women of power not only /can/ but /must/ use their sexuality to get anywhere. That is sickening to me.
If that other chick is fine with how revealing her armour is, go right on ahead, be my guest and look ridiculous as your storm into battle, even if you are a great fighter. But Ryuko’s armour never should have been as silly as it was if that wasn’t what she wanted.
There is no defending this.
The only way to make a statement about sexism is for it to be nonexistant in your work. Else, you’re just feeding the dying beast.

Weaponization of female sexuality is a really difficult subject to tackle. I can't pretend I'm comfortable with the idea of someone telling me that horrible, sinking feeling I had when adult men started noticing and treating me differently, is something I should accept and use to my advantage.

Now that I know what Kill La Kill is about thematically, I'm going to try to watch it. I don't know right now if it's successful in conveying it's message, and I'm almost certain I won't agree with it, but I'm going to make a concerted effort to check it out. Hopefully by the end of the month. Maybe I'll report back here.

Thank you everyone who sent in stuff about Kill La Kill. If nothing else, you've gotten one person to add to their much-less-efficient-than-an-IV-drip media consumption.

-Staci

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Toodx said:

Love what you share. If I feel I have insight into armor-specific problems I try to reblog - hope that’s ok!
Oh! I forgot to mention one thing. Armor should, eventually, neutralize body shape almost entirely for two reasons. One, armor is almost always layered. Two, metal armor, excepting chain (usually a layer under plate) and scale to a degree has to be forged to a degree. Rather than damage the structure of the armor by hammering breast dents into them (no offense, I don’t know what else to call it. Boob holders sounded too awkward in my head) it would make more sense to “flatten” a woman by bulking the padding around her sides and ribs and to press the breasts inward. Also, fighting is tiring. Like, really, really tiring. You need to be in good shape to fight for a long period of time - if you fight for a living, there is probably not much fat on you. Just some thoughts :)
kaynarune:
Just wanted to make a comment but didn’t see an ask button.

Anyway, I wanted to mention on of my pet peeves in fantasy armor design. Armor over bare skin. The boob plates have been gone over many times but this seems to get overlooked. When it is addressed it’s done so in the context of covering up but usually focuses specifically on the torso. However there’s more then just modesty at play here. Have you ever strapped bits of leather and metal to you bare skin and then engages in some form of physical activity? It chafes. It pinches. If it’s cold, you sure as hell don’t want that steal on your bare skin. If it’s hot, then welcome to slimy, sweaty hell. Some types can even draw blood if they pinch you properly or get dented in an unfortunate way. Under layers, such as gambesons and even plain old gym clothes provide, padding, insulation, and moisture wicking. They protect you from your armor. Anywhere there is a buckle, strap, or point of articulation, you generally want a layer between you and your armor. There are types where this is less necessary but in generl, the more elaborate the armor, the more you want something between you and it.

Here's some armor advice for any budding armor makers/drawers/enthusiasts, courtesy a couple of our readers. Thanks for sharing!

-Staci

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ainitori asked:
You know what bothers me about stupid female outfits (besides, well, the obvious)? The fact that they're so ugly like 99% of the time. Like when they use colors that just don't work together, or have dumb accessories all over the place and the outfit just looks bad. I mean, if you're going to give your female character a ridiculous outfit just for sex appeal, at least make it look pretty or something!
lemonadesstand asked:
It's like ok you dont need to show skin to be sexy and sometimes artistic license can be used but it's just that half the time the 'sexy outfits' made with terrible armor aren't even aesthetically pleasing so it's got no excuse.

These asks are best friends. So say my magic pairing powers.

I definitely agree that while there are outfits that are pretty, but impractical, there are those that fall squarely into the ugly category y'all are talking about. I don't know that the percentages are quite that high, but I do wonder how many character designers seriously study fashion...

ranggiana asked:
What I dont get with superhero costum design when it comes to metal armor, that the artist doesnt seem to take into consideration to think how the joints will move. This is pretty much as dressing them as a mummy... covered in metal.

...Or armor.

-Staci

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unconsciousplots asked:
Here goes. This is a continuation of the "large breasted ask." I used to be large - and when I say large, I mean headache-causing, back-ache causing, shoulder-warping, breast-reduction-medically-necessary large. Proportionally, I'd have matched most of the big breasts cases. Besides the obvious problem that they're drawn as bowling-bawls and not drooping U's AND that none of the girls are ever depicted with the usual consequences, I would **never ever have gone out to do what these girls do without having my chest BINDED.** Seriously, forget sports bras. They don't do ANY good after a certain size. Not sure if normals (lol! Look what I just called you. XD) know this, but running and moving in very large breasts seriously hurts when they're able to bounce *at all.* Really hurts. It was impossible to exercise. But if I had been going out to wreck havoc on the baddies, I'd have done the only thing that could have kept my chest from moving at all, and have bound my chest.

I believe this is in response to this post.

First, on behalf of smaller-breasted girls, I'll go ahead and let you know that no matter the size, not strapping breasts down when doing any real physical activity: ow. OW.

That said, I think a lot of the time it's very easy to tell when something was made by a dude with zero experience in boob-having. I know we don't normally cover books, but there's a bit in Red Dragon (slight Hannibal fan girl, sorry) where the author describes a bit of video that goes like this:

"The best view of her is in the softball game with the neighbors' children. Only about fifteen seconds of her; she takes a lead off second base, faces the pitcher and the plate, feet apart ready to dash either way, her breasts swaying beneath her pullover as she leans forward from the waist."

How is that sexy or realistic or anything but OW?! Clearly made/written by a dude.

Conclusion: we're all in this together. Feeling for fictional women.

-Staci

Ahhh, isn't it just wonderful when you can just spot the male gaze in writing? It's so awkward. This gal here explains this issue pretty well, although short. I can't find the original source I was looking for.

But yeah everyone, big-chested or not, would want to have something to keep them in place and protect them when moving around - especially in battle! I'm sure everyone with breasts to know how painful it is when you accidently hit them, or just accidently touch them too hard. Ouchouchouch. - Tica

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andy354 submitted to ria-rha:

Ashei from Twilight Princess

When she first showed up in-game, with that Yeti on her head, I thought she was the coolest! And then she took the Yeti off...She's certainly well armored at first glance, but look what's protecting her heart! Nothing but mammaries. Oh Nintendo...

-Astro

I'm going to have to disagree... not about it not being a functional armor (because well, obviously) but just about her needing armor at all. Long story short: she doesn't.

Long story long: the Resistance are some of the few people we can actually confirm move about outside of towns, meaning they're the only people who really need to worry about their safety since monsters only appear out and about and, presumably, none of them move as fast as the Postman.

Since Ashei is only known to travel to the Snowpeak area, there are two ways to get there from Hyrule Castle Town. The first (and easiest) way involves going through North Hyrule Field straight up to Zora's Domain. It's unlikely she'd go this way as Link has to bomb it to make it accessible, and it's not like he'd tell anyone he's done so.

This means that unless there's a secret way to get to Snowpeak (which I do suspect... cheating NPCs), she'd most likely travel through North Hyrule Field toward the Upper Zora River by boat. Admittedly, she'd have to go against the current for a bit, but I think it's manageable (because, again, unless there's a secret way, this is how she'd have to travel). From there she goes to Zora Domain and Snowpeak.

Taking this path means she'll most likely have to face off against Lizalfos and, if she can't run as fast as Link ("and if she's carrying a boat? Where's she going to keep a boat?" Shhhhh), Bulbins.

The sword she's carrying is made for finessed thrusting; I know I was able to defeat Lizalfos using only thrusts no problem (I wasn't able to get Link to even try on the Bulbin, but they lack shields so it should be possible to defeat them without swinging)... so even if she engages these guys in combat, she shouldn't need armor to take them on. If they do manage to get a hit in, she should be able to deflect with the stuff on her arm.

My argument is moot, however, because we know Shad travels much further and in more enemy riddled areas without any survival skills or armor.

Which only leaves whether or not the outfit serves her character. Well, we know Ashei is from Snowpeak, and even without her yeti coat, her armor and even her pants are reminiscent of the area. And by area I mean Yeto and Yeta's place. And by Yeto and Yeta's place I mean I hate the Snowpeak Ruins so much.

Alright, so her clothes remind us of yetis and Snowpeak, that's good. As for her personality, all we really know is that she's blunt and was raised by her father to be good at fighting. Getting even more basic than that, we know she's in the Resistance.

She definitely looks different from the other people in Hyrule Castle Town, so I'm going to call that a win in the Resisting area of the equation. The armor pieces and visible sword serve the fighting part, and I'm going to go ahead and say that I think her face/hair serve the blunt part.

And I can now add "spent way too much time thinking about a video game character" to my resume.

-Staci

To turn this into a postable conversation, I pretty much agree with you. In fact, for the most part, Twilight Princess is the most well-researched Zelda title ever in terms of the design choices for the armor, weapons, environment and architecture. The entire thing is so deeply rooted in real historical periods that it feels familiar, but also has just the right blend of fantastical elements (and an Escher painting to boot).

I just think that even a fencer should have some protection, and her design is one of the few that is very hit and miss. The problem here is that as a fencer, you need to be able to move your arms and core, and her armor not only doesn't protect her upper chest (which as you pointed out is probably unnecessary but let's pretend it is) but also restricts her lower torso and arm movement. Having giant weights on the forearm that you're using a sword with is not a good idea, period, especially if you're using a fighting style that requires speedy thrusts of all things. Also, while the asymetrical armor is a good idea for a fencer, because it saves weight, most fencers point their strong side to the opponent, so having the weak arm more heavily armored helps nothing at all. If she wore armor beyond a basic breastplate, segments along her stomach and greaves, she should have much thinner bracers and a thin pauldron on her sword arm, and leave it at that. 

-Astro

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nursury0 asked:

Hmmm this maybe seems out ouf place. What do you think about Bayonetta? (Of course about her looks and clothes)

I think she looks like Gonzo after that torture bit in Muppet Treasure Island:

But in all seriousness, I've mentioned before that I think Bayonetta works well as a sexual character, and I may as well use this opportunity to talk about that in a bit more detail. By which I mean link to the Game Overthinker's breakdown of her design (warning: contains profanity as well as quite a bit of... appreciation of Bayonetta's assets >_>) and pretend that counts as giving my own opinion on the matter.

The video concludes, "Tongue-in-cheek or not, Bayonetta may represent the first time someone's actually made the exhibitionism as empowerment angle, work." ... "If nothing else, (she's) the best example yet of femininity and power not being irreconcilable opposites."

Now, I don't think he mentions her hair-as-clothing deal, so I'll at least weigh in on that in my own words (aren't I sweet). At first, demon hair that leaves Bayonetta in various states of undress during certain attacks, seems like an excuse to get her naked. Which, okay, yeah, it would've been just as easy to leave her as clothed as she always is, but I do think the hair clothes work.

Mostly because it's yet another thing on the laundry list of things that are slightly off about Bayonetta (refer to Gonzo, above).

See, hair clothes are pretty gross. Just sit and think about it for a few seconds. Hair. Covering your entire body as a skin-tight jumpsuit. Yeah, that's pretty dang gross. But Bayonetta goes around like this is not only the most natural thing in the world, but also like it's the sexiest.

It isn't. We know it isn't. We thought about it for a moment and, barring any fetishists, we know it's gross.

That conflict between what we know and her attitude? That's funny. That matches the tone of the game, and suits (heh) the character to boot.

Don't get me wrong, this game isn't perfect (I could go into detail about jokes that didn't work for me, plot points that seemed to undermine everything the game'd been going for, etc), but I do think Bayonetta's design was thought out and serves its purpose. Which is a heck of a lot more than I can say about some characters.

 -Staci

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Anonymous asked ria-rha:

I would really appreciate if the "it's not white-washing since they're asian!"-argument would die a nice and quick death. I'm not directing this to the mods, but as a SOUTH asian, I kind of get sick and tired of hearing how white we are when people down here are pretty damn brown.

Dude, really. There's so much variation in each "race" that it's a disservice to only feature pale people in a game, even if the game was made exclusively starring Japanese characters. There are tan and brown Japanese! Why is this so hard to understand? 

-Astro

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Anonymous asked:

"Repair Her Armor was created to show that female armor (specifically) are being sexualized on daily basis, instead of being portrayed as actual characters; they are treated as objects to gaze at - with pretty much nothing more to them. As a joke, someone created Repair His Armor and it was funny because they do not have the same issue when it comes to character design." You are doing exactly what you are saying happens when female characters are sexualized. You see only how they look.

Hello, anon! Please tell me that you’re kidding me. If that’s what you got from reading the text, I’m afraid you got it all wrong.

As a woman who has played games since my childhood years, been watching loads of movies and cartoons, reading a bunch of comics - I always looked up to the female characters because of how great they were. I loved Storm (1990’s Xmen cartoon) because of her complete and utter badassery, I loved Hermione (Harry Potter) because of her sassiness and wisdom and I loved reading about the girls in the W.I.T.C.H comics.

Notice how they all got great designs.

As I grew older, I went to the internet - I found fanart of them. However, it was not fanart of how I had grown to learn the characters. No, I saw them undressed, posing as pin-ups, with massive boobs and faces like blow-up dolls. While I found this bizarre and odd — I still thought - hey, I still know what great characters they really are. That is, until I noticed that games, comics, shows, movies, and everything in between, was exactly the same — minus the personality and reasoning. It seems like the older I got, the more I noticed that I, as a female, was not welcome in the media world. Literally.

And for no good reason, either. For example, Wartune that is famous for their “male gamers only”-ad, the game actually look like this.

All they thought of was how much boobs and ass can we show - and therefore sell - while completely ignoring the character’s personality - reasoning - and setting? Why was this? Why did I feel so uncomfortable looking at this? I had grown up to learn that you can dress however you want and that you should never judge anyone based on that. Fine, really, I don’t. But I don’t see the characters dressing like this. I see the character designers MAKING them like this so they can have something to FAP to. They’re literally selling women’s bodies because they think showing their skin will sell - which is complete and utter bullshit. A cheap way to sell media — completely ignoring the rest of the population - the girls and women. Why did we not matter what WE thought about it? I don’t mind a sexy character — as long as it’s not the only option. I don’t mind a half-naked character — as long as it fits the setting. I don’t mind any of that — as long as it makes sense, as long as it’s good. RHA is to prove that you can be fully dressed and/or fit the setting a lot better instead of being disrespectful and view women as objects.

I’m one of those who like Jack from Mass Effect. While I find that top ridiculous (no really, how does it stay on? Make her go completely topless or give her a sports bra, for heaven’s sake). I feel like Jack is done well because it fits her. It fits her personality, her backstory, her setting - and she isn’t posed or modelled for you to fap to her. What came into my mind when seeing her was; “Huh, why is she dressed like that?” instead of “Ugh, really, not again….” cause let’s face it, the last game (especially) did a lot of odd things — like giving robots cameltoes. Yeah. 

Jack, unlike so many other women in media, is posed off as someone we want to get to learn; someone we’d like to be. That is great. Ino from Guilty Gear is sexual, but it fits her. 

She’s sexy, badass, and does what the heck she wants - it’s just great. She has a thought-through design. 

Take note that this is my opinion. When I play a MMORPG I want to be treated as a badass character as well. Or, at least give me an option to choose. A few games has actually started with this - such as the Final Fantasy mmorpg - when they make a girl run around in a bikini armor - well, expect the men to do that as well. Blade & Soul (sort of) lets you choose whatever you want to wear - so you’re not forced to wear an ass-showing outfit if you don’t want to (if now they only could let the men have a few more “sexy” outfits to choose between as well)… and a  few others. Media is slowly making progress. 

Let’s take Gloria, for example. What purpose did she really have besides showing that she’s sexy? WHY did they have to do a slow-motion scene when she fights to show that she’s wearing no panties? (Spoiler: The “fight scene” where she spreads her legs and moan was completely unnecessary. Later on we figure out that she’s a spy that later turns out to be Trisha. That’s all it is. She was ONLY there in that scene so a horny straight guy could think; “HAWT!”. While we girls just sat there and felt… uncomfortable.)

DMC is not alone on this. New games are still doing it. Too. Damn. Often.

So no. I don’t “only see how they look” — I just take notice on how women are being represented in contrast to men in media. And as for now, they’re not being represented fairly at all. The day we finally more female characters treated with respect and care I will be happy. The day I see them being represented more than just a sexy babe with skin showing everywhere, I’ll be happy. The day I can see a female character show skin without being sexualized, I’ll be happy. I’m not trying to ban “sexy”. I’m not slut shaming. I’m not saying the characters should stop dressing like that — the characters did not choose it! I want them to stop sexualizing female bodies and stop trying to sell it. Give us proper designs, not a sexy bikini that we have seen before. It’s boring. I literally see the same designs recycled all over again - just because they need to show as much skin as possible. So not only is it disrespectful - but it’s BORING.

Want to show their skin? DO it. But don’t do it because you want to sell them. Don’t do it  because their only purpose is to be sexy. Don’t do it because she’s the only female in the entire game/show/comic/whatever. Don’t do it ONLY because she’s the female lead - as rare as it is. They should be MORE than JUST sexy. Why bother making them run around in sexy lingerie when you can simply just make them naked?  Not like Scarlet Blade. Not like a sex toy. Like a woman. Like a character. And treat it with EQUALITY. Have a man run around naked too! If you really want to make sexy outfits - make sexy outfits for men too.

Also, really. Isn’t it stupid when you see this?

Instead of this?

Doesn’t first one say “Hi! Stab me here!”? Unless are equally silly, I will not buy it.

So no. Repair-His-Armor was funny because of the irony. They do not share the same problem, as I have said before. I acknowledge the problems men do have, but this is not a problem that’s happening to men or male characters; therefor Repair-His-Armor was ironic, and sort of amusing. Repair-Her-Armor is already full of humor, so I don’t see the problem.

Hopefully it’ll clear things up. If you have more questions, let me know. Let’s discuss, not fight.

- Tica

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