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Slightly (and by that I mean very) obsessed with the Wars of the Roses, Arthurian legend, and Shakespeare.
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kanerallels

I love how often the plot of a Star Wars Rebels episode is, "We're stopping for gas and we will almost certainly nearly die trying"

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Here's a genuine, good-faith question for Agravain fans: what stories of his do you like? Are there specific aspects of him you enjoy, or is it more about protectiveness over him getting blamed for catching someone else cheating?

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luanna801

Oh gosh, I have so many thoughts about this!

I think Agravain plays a really interesting role in the Orkney brothers, in that he's the only one who seems to have genuinely clicked and bonded with Mordred, and the only one who ends up supporting Mordred's cause when the others side with Arthur.

Gaheris and Gareth both seem to look up to Gawain and follow in his footsteps (in the versions where Gawain is portrayed as noble and worthy of emulation, which is my preference), at least until Gaheris' random foray into matricide. Agravain is the next-oldest after Gawain, but neither of them seem to look up to him. In some versions like Vulgate, his dynamic with Gaheris is downright antagonistic. I think Agravain resents Gawain's authority as the oldest and is annoyed by how the younger two seem to just unquestioningly accept it and idolize him, while Agravain gets none of that.

Then Mordred shows up. In Mallory, this doesn't happen until Mordred is fourteen, so Agravain is presumably in his twenties. And for the first time, Agravain has a brother who fits his mold and not Gawain's, a brother that he meshes with. In the Vulgate Prose Lancelot, young Mordred is Agravain's squire (just like Gaheris is Gawain's in sources like Mallory), and that parallel alone is revealing. But we repeatedly see them paired up and later plotting together throughout the sources, like there's a bond between them that neither of them has with the other brothers.

Now, in the versions where they're played as two-dimensional villains that basically boils down to "They bonded over being evil", but I think there's room to add a lot of nuance there. Mordred is often portrayed as not starting off evil (again, see early Vulgate), and we get hints of that with Agravain too. One of his earliest chronological appearances is in Chretien's Story of the Grail, where he comes across as a bit hot-headed, but a protective and loyal brother to Gawain.

So I think you can definitely go the route that Mordred and Agravain weren't initially evil, but they bonded over being a bit different in personality from their brothers, maybe a bit more cynical in how they see the world. As someone who never idolized Arthur the way the three Gs do, once Mordred finds out the truth about his past, it's Agravain who would be the most inclined to listen and get angry on his behalf rather than automatically taking Arthur's side. While (to my knowledge) we're never explicitly shown a scene where that happens, we can read between the lines and assume something like it must have happened, since Agravain is later shown supporting Mordred's attempted coup.

And I honestly think Agravain has a solid argument to make that it's his loyalty that's exactly where it should be. That their first loyalty should have been to their brother and not their uncle. That Mordred deserves to get revenge on the man who (in several versions) tried to murder him as a baby, or at least took him from his family and sent him off to the middle of nowhere. That the crown is Mordred's by right as Arthur's son, and Agravain is only helping him get the justice Arthur denied him.

You may agree or disagree with all of those arguments, but I think they're ones which carry a lot of weight, and I think it's interesting that Agravain is the only one whose decision apparently came down on that side. I think there's endless potential to dig more into those complicated sibling dynamics, and I'd love to see a version where some of these arguments were explicitly played out onscreen rather than just being subtext.

This is a good answer!

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torchwood-99

I just...I just...Eowyn slew the Witch King of Angmar.

Eowyn married Faramir.

Faramir was made Prince of Ithilien. One of his duties was rehabilitating Minas Morgul.

Minas Morgul which was once ruled by the bloody Witch King of Angmar.

There's just too many thoughts there. Like, was Aragorn thinking, Eowyn did a bloody good job destroying the Witch King, let's see her get rid of the remains of his evil.

Eowyn riding into Minas Morgul, knowing that the monster who ruled there had died at her hands. The land itself, the remnants of the Witch King and the life that is choked by it, responding to her presence, the Maiden of the Shield Arm. Eowyn's wounds affected by riding into the land where the Witch King's evil still lingered. Eowyn fighting to see the land torn down and rebuilt, healing herself by healing the city.

Eowyn's endgame, her married life, fighting to reclaim the land from the hands of the monster who killed her uncle, but couldn't kill her.

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character who is sun-coded but not in the traditional ray-of-sunshine way. character who is sun-coded in the sense that they burn hot and bright and powerful, that they're a raging fury of fire and passion, and that maybe, just maybe, they are destroying themselves as they do so.

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sam-glade
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apricops

say what you will about the historical figure of Cardinal Richelieu but the β€˜black breastplate over cardinal’s robes’ look is some warhammer shit

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sootnuki

i love people with favorite characters who barely have any content. i hope you feast well on your three comically tiny bread crumbs tonight

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frodolives

1850s Tumblr Dashboard Simulator

πŸ‘ΈπŸ» girlbossladyjane follow

It really makes me sick to see people giving money to penny weeklies when Franklin's expedition STILL has not been found 😭 There are good men out there trapped in unimaginable temperatures and literally all that's needed is a little more funding for another rescue mission yet all you guys seem to care about are your vulgar little stories...

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the franklin expedition is dead as hell

πŸ‘ΈπŸ» girlbossladyjane follow

Disgraceful thing to say but I'd expect nothing less from a M*lville fan

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πŸ‘¨πŸ»β€β€οΈβ€πŸ’‹β€πŸ‘¨πŸ» hartgrindisreal

Sorry for posting so much about Tom Gradgrind/James Harthouse from Hard Times lately. It turns out that I was getting arsenic poisoning from my wallpaper? Anyway I took a seaside stroll and I'm normal now. Check your walls y'all

#whyyy did i assume they were committing unlawful actions together like where did i even get that from lol #hard times isn't even that good by dickens standards tbh

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🎨 asherbrowndurand

Just painted this

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ss-arctic-girlie-deactivated18540927

RIP Napoleon... you may have been unable to conquer Alexander's Russia but you sure as hell conquered Alexander's bed

πŸ–ΌοΈ preraphaelitebro follow

HERITAGE POST

πŸ“ shakespearesforehead follow

How does this have less than 100k notes you could literally not avoid this post back in the 20s lol

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πŸŒ„ loyalromantic follow

poets just aren't dying young in mysterious water-related incidents like they used to :/

#as useless and degenerate as i find 'the living poets' and i'm glad we're finally moving on from them #i have to agree with op in this respect

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I finally got a daguerreotype of myself ^_^ Porcelain urn for scaling

πŸ“œ bartlebi-thescrivener

i think i hauve consumption

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πŸ‹ whaler4life

They found oil in the ground??? WTF. THIS IS LITERALLY THE WORSTTTT. FUCK MY LIFE FOR REAL THIS TIME

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🌿 naturesnaturalist follow

I swear this website has 0 reading comprehension skills. Darwin NEVER claimed we "evolved" from apes like if one of you guys actually bothered to open his new book you'll see all his arguments are backed up by evidence. He actually makes a lot of sense

#sure there's nuance like i don't fully agree with all of it #but his general theory of natural selection seems pretty sound imo

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Of course these are the finalists lmao this website is so predictable. Anyway vote Heathcliff if you dont i'm going to assume you're a phrenologist

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It's not problematic to acknowledge the fact that Heathcliff was a brute like he literally killed dogs in case you forgot. Anyway #rochestersweep

πŸ™ˆ butchbronte follow

I love the implication here that Rochester never did anything cruel either. He literally locked his wife in the attic and lied to Jane about it 😭 like that was a pretty significant thing that happened

πŸ“– sapphichelenburns follow

And? God forbid women do anything

#why'd you have to pit two bad bitches against each other #anyway i'm not attracted to men but still went with rochester #bc in terms of living quarters thornfield hall > wuthering heights easily

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Not the Russian tsar dying immediately after hartgrind became canon

#i know dickens hasn't technically confirmed it yet but like. SOMETHING was strongly implied ok #see: my previous post #dickensposting

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πŸ‘¨πŸ»β€β€οΈβ€πŸ’‹β€πŸ‘¨πŸ» hartgrindisreal

LORD HELP ME. THE BODY LANGUAGE. THE WAY THEY'RE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER. AHHHHHH

#this installment!!! im-- #dickensposting #i can't fucking cope #dickens wants to KILL us he wants us DEAD....

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⭐️ newamerican

Hi guys sorry I haven't been posting lately it's been so difficult getting to California πŸ’€ I'm finally here now though just need to find a pickaxe and soon I'll be digging! :-) wish me luck lol

#gold #gold rush #gold rush grind #california #adventure

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it's kind of crazy climate change has occurred at such a remarkable pace that I and everyone else around my age can remember a completely different climate in our childhoods. I truly watched winter gradually disappear in my life.

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room429

"You're too young to remember this, but there used to be so many insects outside that you would have to clean them off the windshield after a long car ride" is the kind of sentence that would have been in a cheesy scifi short story earlier in my life, perhaps submitted to a literary magazine and accepted to show support for its environmentalist message - now it's something I've said in earnest.

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