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Got a secret, got to keep it

@gotasecretgottokeepit

My thoughts on what's going on in the world of Pretty Little Liars
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Body in the barrel

So after all is said and done and we are introduced to a mildly cockney Spencer look a like, who was the body in the barrel?

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I'm still calling it now.....

…CeCe’s story from the 6A finale was a complete lie. She is not “Charles DiLaurentis/Drake”, she is actually “Bethany Young” (cover name for CeCe/Charlotte Drake), Mary Drake’s daughter and Alison’s cousin. Wren is the real Charles, born to Mary but adopted by the DiLaurentis family. That would still explain the two boys at the farm, Wren and Jason. CeCe just told the story the way she did to cover for the good doctor…which is very obvious he has a connection to Elliott, considering they have both been referenced as the “good doctor” and have British accents. Another thing I found fishy is how Mary Drake was in Radley and so was Marion Cavanaugh, who also looked an awful lot like Jessica. Marion…Mary. Strange coincidence. Or maybe a plot twist? Maybe I’m hoping but it all seems very strange and coincidental.

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CECE WORKS FOR WREN!

It’s been eight days since 6x10, so only now I can think without feeling anger because holes. As I said before, these holes can be clues that Cece is lying.

The only person who could confirm Cece’s history is DEAD!

I’ve been thinking that writers wouldn’t be so stupid to do a story with many holes.

Spencer said that hope is just a dirty word, but I don’t stop think that in 6x11, Cece receive a visit in jail and her will say: “I did everything you asked me to do, Charles.” and show Wren’s face!

This not because Cece be Charles. is because holes, is that nothing makes sense.

HOW OFTEN THEY LIED IN INTERVIEWS ? MANY! WHY THIS TIME  I WOULD BELIEVE?

Cece isn’t Charles, Wren is! 

Let’s go back to episode 3x23.

Wren authorized Cece visit Mona, if Cece was Radley’s patient, she doesn’t need permission to visit Mona, much less a visitor’s badge.

*Radley patient need a visitor’s badge to enter Radley and with permission of a VOLUNTEER.*

Wait, Cece said he didn’t know anyone from Rosewood, so how she was so intimate Wren as to call him to ask him to do something illegal?  He wasn’t a volunteer at Radley when Mona got there. WHY CECE WAS DESPERATE TO SEE MONA BEING THAT SHE WAS ALSO IN RADLEY? Maybe aren’t holes,  are CLUES.

Why Wren would be interested in something that Alison did?

Roommate of Cece (wtf Cece not slept in college and had a roommate ????) [4x10]

That’s the real reason Cece hates girls:

Cece also hated girls because she thought they were as guilty as Alison.

In same episode, Hanna talks with Wren about Cece.

The problem of illegal visits authorized by Wren to Cece visit Mona returns, this time by Hanna.

Immediately after Hanna left, he calls someone.

The aforementioned problem is Hanna and illegal visits authorized by him.

The end of Red Coat in episode = HANNA

Excellent parallel, right?

The end of Wren = Do Ashley lose lawyer.

So he goes at Hastings’s house and…

But wait… that’s not what Mona said. Wren lied.

Wren did. Ashley lost lawyer. Veronica threatened Mona and someone [WREN KINGSTON]  denounced to prosecution.

Cece killed Wilden, maybe Wren wanted to protect his ally, accusing Ashley.

Wren and Cece have different reasons for revenge… but Wren is Charles. Cece is Bethany, red coat real. Because… 

Lesli heard name Charles, not Charlotte or Cece. If Charles ‘died’ at age 16, they would call him Charlotte or Cece, right?

In plot of Cece being Charles, nothing makes sense. I don’t  believe that producers would be so stupid… so, yes, I’m having hope.

That police board was about two people: Charles and Red Coat. 

RED = RED COAT

BLACK = CHARLES

It makes perfect sense if Wren really is her partner, because…

Another thing, Charles has OCD and Cece hasn’t.

“… or I can’t sleep.”

Look now Cece’s room:

No way Cece has toc, has neither the minimum sense of organization. I mean, even if Charles doesn’t have TOC,  he has a sense of organization, has everything organized.

Else, Ezra paid Cece to get information…

Charles is a genius, omnipresent, he would never give information to Ezra. Even in exchange for money. He never spoil everything just to give information to Ezra…

So yes, I still believe Wren is Charles.

English is not my language, so if you don’t understand something just ask me.

You can see my video about this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtsnYPg6EdE

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Watching the PLL finale

Was like watching an episode of Knightmare on that strange screen at the Carrisimi group. And just as awful. So a nightmare in more ways than one. Like if you agree.

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Cece isn’t Charles!

Let’s go back to episode 4x04. Melissa said that from the beginning tried to protect Spencer. 

If this is true, why Melissa never warned Spencer about Cece? Melissa and Cece had a friendship. Cece and Wren confirmed this.

If Cece is A and Melissa was protecting Spencer, she [Melissa] would say even indirectly something about Cece, right? But no, she warned about WREN.

At the end of episode 4 of season four, "A" appears repairing the Melissa’s mask. Why Cece would do that? Who better than the ex-boyfriend of Melissa to do this?

At episode 13 of season four, Mrs. Grunwald said…

She wasn’t referring to Cece because Charles was definitely a man.

This masked person didn’t have breasts and it’s not Ezra. He was not even “A” and also, Cece not spent so much time with girls for Spencer say:

Wren has a piano and Charles too.

and next episode…

Song lyrics and also, A’s message… and very convenient for Wren. Eddie and Wren hated each other and Eddie know of Wren’s secrets, It would be great for Wren to girls and Toby stop looking for Eddie.

In this deleted scene, Jessica says Charles like vintage (you can see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlhhBX4-czg) and serious, Cece doesn’t seem to like vintage and everything in Wren’s apartament looks like vintage. But let’s use cars:

Wren’s car is vintage and Cece’s car isn’t.

At episode 4x11, Cece says:

If she’s really “A” doesn’t need to give satisfaction to anyone, much less Sara Harvey, at the end of episode SHE RETURNED TO ROSEWOOD.

This means that someone forced her to return. Cece doesn’t look happy. I mean, at 6x10 she said that A’s game was fun… but it seems that she’s not having fun. It looks like someone forced…

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING IS COINCIDENCE.

Cece said at 6x10 that wasn’t her.

But at 3x20 she said it was her and explained why.

You might say, “Cece simply lied” but she was DESPERATE. If she’s A, which the reason for despair? I mean, “A” isn’t afraid of anything. Another plot hole? My bet: She’s lying. But lying about being Charles / A.

I’m still very confused about Red Coat. In 6x10 Cece said…

This Red Coat who was watching the girls was Alison, right? But if I’m not mistaken, Alison began watching the girls in Red Coat in the third season, so, who was Red Coat in the cemetery when Bethany’s body was stolen?

img credit - PLL WIKIA.

Was Sara Harvey? Or another plot hole? Or one more evidence that Cece isn’t Charles/A and only works with Charles?

In 6x10 Cece said she thought Alison was alive and then… 

In 3x24 SHE HADN’T SURE IF ALISON WAS ALIVE.

BUT WAIT…

In 3x01, A stole Bethany’s body because police would exhume and find out that body wasn’t of Alison, namely, at 3x01 A already knew that Alison was alive. Even if it was Mona who had stolen Bethany’s body, according to what Cece said, her was already working with Mona on 3x01, then her would know THAT ALISON WAS ALIVE, but Cece found that Alison was alive at 3x24.

Also, A didn’t want that Alison returned to Rosewood, nor that girls found out that Alison was alive. “A” asked for the girls stop looking for Alison.

Cece put the girls in danger for Alison APPEAR unlike Charles. It’s not plot holes, it’s evidence that Cece lied when her said it was A/Charles. 

In 4x23, Charles discovers where is the hiding of Cece and denounces her to police, then in next episode, Cece is arrested. 

Cece denounced herself? Oh Marlene…

Someone said that to Marlene…

She was saying the story was over, but now, she said that the story isn’t over. She also swore that Mona was really dead… but her wasn’t.

She can also lying about Cece be -A.

This eye isn’t of Cece or Sara.

I believe more than ever that Wren is Charles.

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FALLS ON DEAF EARS LMAO YOU’RE DIRECTING A SHOW ABOUT UNVEILING TRUTHS AND BECAUSE YOUR WRITERS MESSED UP SUDDENLY ALL OF THESE CLUE AND LIES DON’T MATTER TO YOU??? All these “kids complaints” are the only reason you’re payed every day. Such a shame.

Dear Norman, sometimes silence is golden.  I’m a grown woman and not one of those “kids” (who seem to be smarter than you are, btw). The pacing of your show sucks. The timeline sucks. The writing sucks. This isn’t about the “WHO” it’s about the “WRITING.” Yes, every show has plot holes, but if these plot holes are so big that even those “kids” can tell it’s nonsense, then you are doing something VERY wrong. This isn’t just about the timeline either. If the plot holes disturb the flow and logic of the mystery, then you screwed up. If ppl are hating on the finale, then there must be a reason for it. You failed. Deal with it. You should try to fix this mess instead of trying to act like a stubborn kid who rather wants to blame the “other kids” for his own failure. Maybe if you (and everyone else who works on this show) had taken these complains more serious in the past, none of this would have happened and people would praise your work now.  But I guess your ego is too big to admit that. Learn from your mistakes and try harder….and get better. But don’t just tell people they are stupid kids who don’t understand the greatness that is you. If the majority of the people out there don’t think you are that great, chances are that you really are not that great and you need to work harder. Instead of posting sarcastic posts about the fans, use that energy to fix the mess you all have created. And for God’s sake, fix the damn pacing of that show. Your characters act like the Sims, hopping from love interest to love interest while the mystery of the show has to be explained in interviews instead of being SHOWN on the show itself. The characters do one thing in one ep, and then in the next episode it is never addressed again…as if it never happened….But then suddenly, like a season later, it is brought up again. Characters come and go for NO REASON. Yes, brilliant writing… WOW. You are all so great. NOT! But what do I know, I am just a kid. Right? 

I'm not a kid either.I'm nearly 29 and have 2 kids. I don't see how anyone who just watches the show and doesn't go on tumblr, twitter or anywhere else online about the show has a clue what's going on! But that's ok. Neither do the makers of the show This is spot on! I enjoy the characters and it used to have a good pace and story going and now we find the girls being tormented and at constant risk of their lives was not for any real big valid reason at all

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'Sara' is Bethany or Cece is Bethany

Anyone else still think Sara is Bethany? Cece's sidekick? Or that Cece is Bethany and the story she told is made up and Charles IS a man. Mrs D cannot corroborate the story. Who can? They're all dead.

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The A/Charles reveal

They said that the why was more significant than the who, so I'm sure that like me everyone else is rolling around totally bowled over with their understanding of why A spent all that time doing crazy things? Why A tormented the girls and built a dollhouse and imprisoned them in it? We are all now very wise as to what this was all about and what they all apparently did. Just to cover up the truth? None of it rings true in the slightest, although I did always wonder if that was Cece who opened the police van with the girls in. Where is A's lair? And where is Tippi?

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What if Ali saw someone who was supposed to be dead?

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It dawned to me that if Alison saw someone she tormented, she would’ve been in shock, yet she would keep her brave face. But re-watching the ending, I figured that instead of saying “You”, as in I can’t believe it, she said “Oh my God”, as in impossible.

So, if I’m correct, the person behind the mask could be the following deceased MALE characters;

Ian Thomas

Garrett Reynolds

Detective Darren Wilden

Any thoughts??? Please comment I’d love that :)

This was my first thoughts. And if all the way through we will be able to look back and see all the clues Wilden was there from beginning. Could he be Charles? If he's been wanting to find out what happened that summer I don't think he was A before she disappeared. Would he have wanted to kill her? It's about Bethany. We'll we hopefully won't be so confused by next week.

If it's someone who's meant to be dead and they do end up dying then nothing much has changed?

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Who is black hoodie and red coat?

I'm calling it now. Jenna is redcoat and Noel is black hoodie. Charles is why and not who A is. Or failing that it is Lucas and Paige. It's not going to be Ezra. I think he's just bad at acting and has lost all sense of who his character is. I am ever so slightly joking. I mean, do you really think it's Wren and Melissa, really?

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Charles+Bethany+Melissa: I think I figured it out

So here’s what I think is happening, from the beginning of this whole show:

Charles is sent away to Radley. There he meets Bethany. They were either close friends or in love. Through Charle’s connection with Bethany, Mrs. DiLaurentis begins a relationship with her father. Charles already hates his family for not understanding him. Now Bethany hates her too. Mrs. D takes her out often to try and keep her happy but also because she wants to keep Charles a secret. But there is one other person who was at Radley with Charles and Bethany: MELISSA. 

That girl Spencer sees dancing in her dream is not herself. It’s Melissa. That is who she would go visit and that is how she recognized that room and the terrible things that happened in it. So what happened then?

I think Melissa was released. But Charles and Bethany were not. So they devise a plan in order to escape. I think that the three of them together come up with a plan to kill Ali. I think Cece finds out about the plan, pretending to work with them, but really trying to protect Ali. So she sends Ali and Bethany the same yellow shirt. But she also puts one on herself. 

(I think at this point Melissa is confronting Cece about the yellow top and why everyone seems to have one)

What happens then? Charles does find Ali and Mrs. D buries her. But she escapes. But Melissa doesn’t know this. So she finds the perfect opportunity to get back at Ali. Earlier she finds the perfect person to frame for the murder: SPENCER. She sees them argue and knows that Spencer is using drugs. 

So later on when she sees a blonde in the same yellow shirt as Ali, she hits her with a shovel. And buries her alive. BUT she then realizes that it wasn’t Ali. But Bethany. ANDS I think that the liars witnessed this murder together (this is possibly what Ali means when she says they know more than they think). But they don’t remember. I think it’s possible that Aria did somewhat remember or started getting bad flashbacks. Her family moves to Iceland. It’s why Spencer and Emily have flashbacks of blood on their hands and face. 

Here’s where it gets good. Charles escapes after this night. Ali is believed to be dead. The girls separate. And Melissa gets away with murder. Cece leaves, knowing that Ali escaped and running away from Melissa. 

Mona then helps Ali escape. A year passes and the girls are reunited once more. I think Mona became scared that after becoming an it girl, and the girls would take it away. I think Uber A (Melissa) gave Mona that idea and a way to fight against change. Remember when Mona was having a meeting with all the people that hated Ali (episode 5X01)? And Melissa showed up? Why would a 23-24 year old woman show up to a meeting where only 17 year olds attended? …Yeah, weird to say the least. 

So what happened next? Melissa and Wren (Charles) got in contact and she brought him back to Rosewood. They became lovers. But then Wren kissed Spencer. And Melissa kicked him out and began developing her plan. It would be the last time she was betrayed by a lover for Spencer. She used Mona as her pawn to bother the girls. But then she came up with a better plan: tell Wren that Spencer and the girls were the ones who killed Bethany. At 12 midnight on the season finale of season 2, Mona’s time was up as A and Wren took over. 

I think the NAT videos of the girls of Rosewood, particularly Ali and her friend were for Charles. I think Maya discovered the truth about Melissa. (That’s why the camera focuses on Melissa in that scene). We later find out she lost her baby way before she ever let on. 

I think Cece knew it was Melissa who killed Bethany. I think Charles killed Mrs. DiLaurentis. I think it’s possible that Melissa killed Ian and Garrett. I think she had more to do with the videos than we think and that she passed the videos on to Charles. 

Melissa is Black Widow. But she’s not good. She is the puppet master. She controlled Mona and now she is controlling Charles with a false story. Where the girls are taking the blame for a murder she committed. She is Charle’s friend and ally. I think this is why A is always revealed to Spencer. 

So it really isn’t about Charles as the who…it’s going to be about the why. Melissa is supposed to be back in season 7! Let’s see where it goes!

SOOOO what do you guys think? Let me know! Xx

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Season 6 episode 7

That video at the end with Jason, 'Freddie' and Alison (supposedly) does not make sense. They all look similar age and Ali is 7 years younger than Jason and 8 years younger than Charles. They all look nothing like the other video nor like the characters themselves. Is it evidence instead that they were all being lied to about things that happened in their childhood? At the end A is opening a gift from someone with different handwriting to what we've seen before, and not signed by A. This A must be Charles if it's meant to be his birthday. But who is giving him a gift, and why the hell is it a painting from the video?! It's weird! Why are Ali and Jason being shown the video? It must be important but I can't yet figure out why.

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Remember Nigel Wright. He was made so relevant by Marlene for as little as two episodes. She tweeted teasing us to guess who he was, when he reappeared when Toby and Caleb went investigating, Marlene asked if we recognised him, and then as quick as he appeared he vanished.   

Assuming this is Charles, these stills from the finale episode remind me awfully of him.  Also not to mention, he was involved in the night at the lodge in the season 4 finale, with the whole plane and all, and we were reintroduced to this lighter.

I know that Shana started that fire that night, but this lighter is what lead Toby and Caleb to Nigel Wright. (There’s also links between the lighter and Maya - True North - and i mean, the only connection that comes to me is that maybe Charles killed Maya, but that’s a whole other theory).

Anyways it’s just something to throw out there. I don;t have an in deoth theory, only because we know nothing of Nigel Wright which may make him being charles, a little far fetched, but as soon as I saw those stills I saw Nigel.

Also is this just weird lighting or is his face burnt? 

I was also going to connect the burn to the night of the lodge fire, BUT that happens in the season 3 finale and we see him fresh faced in 4x07. What do you guys think?

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It’s so frustrating to me that the writers said they “ran out of time” to tell Noel’s story, and his connections to Alison yet they do have time for Sara Shower Harvey and her boring ass!! And they had time last season for all the irrelevant characters like Talia, Jonny, Sydney, Paige, Travis, Andrew, London Boy….. Like where was Noel???? Why couldn’t his story have been solved rather than bringing in all these other lame ass people that we all hated.. It’s just super frustrating I can’t stand it!!!

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because in reality they didn’t “run out of time” they just had no clue how to wrap up his story so they dropped it and hoped we wouldn’t notice

And they also totally forgot about Lucas and Jenna

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