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I have always been on the fence about Female Space Marines, and that is mostly because I'm not happy with my own assigned gender (and the fact I like submissive men and dominant women and space marines are extremely sub almost all of them, fight me about it)

But like, seeing the outrage over female Custodes. I'm urging, no begging, GW to release them.

I want every crying, “lore expert” who never read a single book, but just binged some loretuber who read straight off a wiki that never held canon info in the first place, (man im heavily dyslexic and I have no spare time to speak off, but even I at least get the audiobooks), I want these dudes to just burn their armies in rage. (and leave the hobby, dont forgett that very important part)

“Dont make Warhammer political”, get the fuck out of here. 40k was created by a bunch of nerds so angry at Margaret Thatcher they created a satire so heavily influenced by Monthy Python that I'm convinced John Cleese got paid off in cool minis to keep him from suing them.

Warhammer didnt go woke, it was always made by the left. We look at the older stuff and forget that it was created in a different(worse) time, and they have consistently tried to do better.

Look at old Forum posts about Graham McNeill. “Wäääh, why is he always writing about women, communist cuck McNeill” (not those exact words but general sentiment)

Like, I give McNeill so much shit today for how all women he writes about face horrible fates (but to be fair, what men doesn't have a terrible fate too). But I have even forgotten that some of this stuff is about 25 years old.

Seeing Warhammers official page block people who acts out in the comments about this, seeing them double down on the fact thar Custodes can have any gender. Seeing authors of the franchise, new and old back all of this. Im feeling Vindicated.

Gods, I wish this is the last straw for the alt-rights too stupid to realise they are being satirized.

And in the famous words of Games Workshop:

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The existence of a female custodes in the 40k universe is so funny to me. Funny in the sense that I can laugh at all those prissy, easilly offended, fragile misogynists who took refuge in the 40k fandom thinking fascism was cool.

Because now, there is canonically women who is better in combat their favourite macho-man, whoever they are (unless they're primarchs, probably).

Those guys and their love for their masculine super-bros, be them space marines or otherwise, have been told their fav can get steamrolled by a woman any day of the week and they can't deal with it.

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Rewatching The Clone Wars over a two week period with an eye towards the recurring situations and themes of the political landscape of the GFFA has just really hit me hard in how absolutely fucked everything was, where war is taxing people to their limit and is a horror of never-ending suffering, but not fighting was leaving innocent people to die, to be used as human shields, to be experimented on with bio-chemical warfare, to be taken for slave labor in mines, where pretty much the only times the Republic goes to a planet is when they have been asked for help, the Republic isn’t invading places, they’re going where they’re asked when the Separatists invade, but at the same time you can’t reason with the Separatists, because you’re caught between that they’re droids whose programming won’t allow it or they’re straight up horrific people who enjoy using people as defoliator subjects or are mad the Jedi Order took down their slave empire and have a grudge or they’re Count Dooku who specifically helped engineer the war and will never back down versus that eventually Palpatine makes it illegal to negotiate with the Separatists because it would legitimize them and like a lot of those systems just wanted to leave the Republic, but you can’t divorce that from that their army is committing atrocity after atrocity, especially because the Separatist senators don’t seem to actually be paying attention to what their army is doing, which means the CIS isn’t the better alternative, the Republic is still the only line of defense against the things Dooku and Grievous and Loathsom and Trench and such are doing, but also you can’t remain neutral, that’s turning your back on people who genuinely need help, there are like four separate arcs of the show that say “actually neutrality in the face of evil you have the ability to do something about is bad, you need to help people”, and it didn’t even work, if you tried, because if you were in Palpatine’s crosshairs, there was nothing that was going to stop you from that, both other worlds’ innocent people and your innocent people were going to die.  That’s the thing about the situation engineered here, that there were no good options, every choice cut away pieces of you or let innocent people die, and pretty much the only way out was the galactic public actually standing up, which they refused to do again and again.  "All democracies turn into dictatorships—but not by coup. The people give their democracy to a dictator, whether it’s Julius Caesar or Napoleon or Adolf Hitler. Ultimately, the general population goes along with the idea … What kinds of things push people and institutions into this direction?“ –George Lucas, the galaxy was fucked because the general population decided they didn’t want to help each other and the few people that were trying could keep those plates spinning for awhile but they were not enough, there just really wasn’t a way out of this on an individual level or even a few thousand people’s level. 

The true genius, the true evil, at the heart of Palaptine’s scheme was that unlike every other Sith Lord, he stopped trying to destroy the Republic and the Jedi by raising a massive army and burning the galaxy down, but that he saw the darkness at the center of the Republic and nurtured it while engineering a scenario where the Republic and the Jedi largely destroyed themselves.

I’ve obsessed about this for YEARS and have never been able to see a different out. Maybe something like “the Jedi Order en masse informs the Senate that the way they want the war conducted conflicts with the will of the Force as expressed through the Code and, thus, they will be conducting the war without the Jedi, who will act to defend the needy of the galaxy from both the Separatists AND the Republic, until such time as the Republic honors its own ideals.” But if the Jedi Order were going to do that they’d have done it long, long ago.

“they will be conducting the war without the Jedi, who will act to defend the needy of the galaxy from both the Separatists AND the Republic, until such time as the Republic honors its own ideals“ I don’t think it had a chance of working, either, though!  One–the Jedi do not have enough members to fight the war on their own, that’s hammered in repeatedly throughout the movies and TCW, and it was the war that was using the Twi’leks as living shields, bombing their civilian cities, killing the Mon Cala king and enslaving the Mon Cala people, kidnapping the people of Kiros to make them slave labor, experimenting on the Naboo people with biological warfare, using the neutral Lurmen people as test subjects for their defoliator weapons, attacking medical stations and relief efforts.  All of that was part of a massive scale war that the Jedi did not have the numbers to fight, they couldn’t do it on their own, we see that they’re barely leaning towards winning most of their battles even when going full throttle with their combined strength with the clones/the GAR.  They could not have protected the people from the massive droid armies on their own. And, two, we see that as soon as Palpatine had someone in his sights, a different route wasn’t going to save them.  Mandalore tried desperately to remain neutral and was crushed by being dragged into the war regardless–because the general people believed Pre Vizsla and chanted for war, once the people’s support for joining the war was there, it didn’t matter what a small handful wanted.  The Banking Clan on Scipio tried desperately to remain neutral, but Palpatine wanted those banks under the control of the Republic and he was never going to just let them be neutral.  The Jedi had access to the Force, Palpatine was never going to leave them to be neutral and the galaxy was so willing to turn on the Jedi (their babies were murdered and the galaxy barely reacted, regardless of whether they were too scared to or not, the point remains: they would have thrown the Jedi under the bus entirely willingly) that the Jedi would have had the people turn on them anyway, they couldn’t have escaped that way. It’s the same reason that Padme and Bail stayed with the Republic, because even with its flaws, it was still the only thing that could stand up against the millions of people that the Separatist army was killing and enslaving, because it was still the only thing that had a feasible chance to actually protect people, there just wasn’t any other force in the galaxy big enough to stand up against the droid army–except for the galactic public as a whole. Which is what I come back to again and again, why I included that Lucas quote, because there was just no way out of this without everyone standing together, which is the theme of Star Wars, not “we’ll turn our backs on you until you’re up to our standards” but “we must join together, we will do what we can and must have faith that others will stand up with us”.

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Honor compels me to add another Attachment Hot Take into the maelstrom of tumblr.

The choice Luke is offering is between two creeds, both of which expect an intense lifelong commitment and personal sacrifice. Din would absolutely raise his son within his creed as a Mandalorian, and start looking for a child sized blaster. Sure, he might not swear the creed and get a helmet until adulthood, but Din says he was raised to fight, and thus the creed is an affirmation of his training and beliefs. Chastised he may be by the Armorer (and regardless of how uncharitable she is to him), there’s no indication thus far that Din is about to swap to Bo Katan’s denomination or otherwise give up the creed he swore. If Grogu chooses to go back to him, Din’s not going to suddenly go back to Omera and live out the domestic bliss of safe civilian life. I had expected that Din’s gift would be a mythosaur pendant for Grogu to keep, but he gives him beskar armor. Sure, it’s a reasonable and practical gift for someone whose life has repeatedly been in danger, but it’s also surely the most sacred gift a Mandalorian could ever give someone. The Armorer was willing to use their limited supply of beskar because that’s a gift that could only be granted from a Mandalorian to their child (and she doesn’t even ask for it back after she exiles him, presumably because she full well expects him to find a way to atone by the tenets of their creed). 

The most interesting thing the shows have done is emphasize that Mandalorians aren’t a Cooler Than You club, they’re a religion (and even showing multiple, conflicting interpretations) with stringent tenets. The whole irony is that Din was separated from his own people (dead parents, sure, but still) and taken into a new culture that impressed a strict code upon him from childhood, but one that nonetheless gave him purpose and community. Like it’s not even subtext to make the comparison at this at this point, given the Empire promptly persecuted them. The ideals that Din was taught guide him through two seasons of working for people he doesn’t like for the sake of bringing the reward to support his people, and then repeatedly getting his ass kicked and barreling into danger because Grogu is his foundling. Din’s given up as much of his self to the service of others as any Jedi has. 

Luke expresses his concern that Grogu’s heart isn’t fully into his training, and that’s a valid concern when you’re trying to connect to the metaphysical undercurrent of the universe and the immense power that comes from it. But would the Armorer not say something if one of her foundlings wasn’t one hundred percent focused on their training, especially if that training involves high powered weaponry? She’s clearly holding her Mandalorians to as high of a standard as any Jedi would their students, even on matters of purely symbolic principle, because that’s a part of their creed.

It’s laid out as a binary choice because it has to be a choice, and thus a commitment, especially now that Grogu has had the opportunity to remember some of his original training, as Luke also notes. Devotion to a creed can’t be done in half measures, that would be disrespecting the creed itself, much less the danger involved when it comes to wielding the Force/high powered Mando weapons. You can’t force someone to be a Jedi or a Mandalorian, that would be the last thing they want. These aren’t just day jobs, they’re intensely held beliefs for personal and communal enlightenment. Either path requires a total commitment, and that commitment requires sacrifice. 

(Yes, Tarre Vizla was both Mandalorian and Jedi, but I can’t really comment on how that worked out until someone actually writes that out. But when Paz says that Tarre went out to form House Vizla, which then continued for centuries after, it sure sounds like he left the Jedi to focus on Mandalorian things. Which, of course, is something a Jedi has every right to do.) 

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“You’re allowed to love people, but you’re not allowed to possess them.” —George Lucas

1. STAR WARS: REBELS 4.13 A World Between Worlds 2. MIDNIGHT HORIZON (2022) by Daniel José Older 3. STAR WARS: ATTACK OF THE CLONES (2002) dir. George Lucas 4. STAR WARS: REBELS 4.10 Jedi Night 5. THE RISING STORM (2021) by Cavan Scott 6. STAR WARS: REBELS 1.08 Gathering Forces 7. STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS 7.09 Old Friends Not Forgotten 8. LIGHT OF THE JEDI (2020) by Charles Soule 9. STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS 1.13 Jedi Crash 10. STAR WARS: REBELS 4.15 Family Reunion - And Farewell

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About Luke, the Jedi and “attachment”...

So The Book of Boba Fett - Episode 6 came out and it was *muah* chef’s kiss.

But a lot of viewers seem to be disappointed with how Luke Skywalker is training Grogu. In the episode, he (and Ahsoka) both seem to adhere to the notion that a Jedi shouldn’t have attachments, like the Prequel Jedi did.

Why would he do such a thing? Aren’t the Jedi teachings what made Anakin fall in the first place? Well, the thing is… there’s nothing wrong with the Prequel Jedi’s teachings.

Luke training Grogu the same way the Prequel Jedi did is really not that surprising.

Bit of a long answer, but I put lots of pictures and GIFs to make it enjoyable :)

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1. Lucas says the Jedi teachings aren’t the problem.

[Lucas quotes about Jedi teachings & attachment can be found on this post]

First off, the notion that “the strict Jedi teachings are ‘wrong’ and the Jedi failed Anakin” and that’s what the Prequels are all about is purely fanon.

Cuz that’s sure as hell not what George Lucas says they’re about… no, what he says the Prequels are about is:

  1. How a democracy becomes an Empire (aka, Palpatine’s rise).
  2. How a good man becomes evil (aka, Anakin’s fall).
[Quotes on what the Prequels are about can be found on this other post]

Secondly: the Jedi rules are, indeed, strict… but that’s not a bad thing.

Because while anyone can be a Jedi, being a Jedi is not for everyone. Fact is, being a Jedi is a hard thing to do.

It’s all about selflessly serving others, saving lives the best way you can and doing your duty.

It’s not a hobby, it’s a whole way of life. So you can’t be a “part-time” Jedi… if you wanna be one, you need to commit to the Jedi path.

So the Jedi rule of forgoing attachment doesn’t mean forgoing relationships or emotions. A Jedi can love, a Jedi can have friends.

Examples: We see Obi-Wan has friends like Dexxter Jettster, Jedi Knights Tiplee and Tiplar are sisters and nobody gives them shit, and Yoda obviously knows of Anakin & Padmé but doesn’t criticize Anakin for it.

But seeing as being a Jedi is about duty and greater good over your own selfish desires… if the time comes where you need to choose between saving 1,000 people in a burning building and your best buddy… you gotta do your duty and prioritize the 1,000 people.

That’s what that “no attachment” means. Duty over personal attachments.

And Grogu & Din Djarin’s relationship is a tight one, right?

If there’s a burning building, Grogu will likely prioritize saving Din, because he loves him. And viceversa. Which is a very normal reaction (because they’re basically father and son), and it wouldn’t - at all - make Grogu a bad person…

… but it would make him a bad Jedi (which could lead to him falling to the Dark Side, like Anakin).

And that’s why Luke is making him choose. The Jedi path is a very difficult one and while Grogu’s already been initiated… his heart isn’t in it. He misses Din.

2. Luke and the Jedi Order.

So after this episode of Book of Boba Fett came out, there’s this outcry of fans on Twitter saying two things:

  • ‘Luke would never teach the “non-attachment” rule because it’s his attachment for Vader that allowed to change his father.’
  • ‘The fact that he is teaching it is like the old Prequel Jedi would is indicative of his inevitable failure, in TLJ.’

Both statements also do not align with Lucas’ vision.

First off, it doesn’t help that Luke from the Legends continuity is okay with attachment and even gets married (which George Lucas never liked).

But also… it’s not Luke’s attachment for his father that allowed him to turn Vader back to the Light Side. It’s his love. A very selfless form of love: compassion.

Luke is furious at Vader, for taking his hand, killing his friends, threatening Leia. But despite that rage, he makes the hard choice… and rejects it. And in doing so, he turns his back on the Dark Side, the easy path.

He lets go of his anger for Vader and chooses his love for Anakin.

Which inspires Anakin to do the same.

Lucas makes it very clear that there is a very big difference between selfish love (attachment) and selfless love (compassion). A Jedi lives off of the latter.

A Jedi can and should love selflessly. And that’s what Luke does.

So the notion that somehow, “Luke rose beyond the dogmatic teachings of the Jedi and found a middle path” is so inaccurate it hurts. I mean, I already talked about it in this post, but let’s look at the facts:

  • He faces Vader while ready physically and mentally, instead of letting his emotions rule him and rushing into danger. AKA, practicality over heroism.
  • He sacrifices himself and lets Vader capture him, so that Leia and the others can carry out the mission.
  • He tries to talk to Vader, get him to see reason.
  • Rather than murdering him in a fit of rage, Luke lets go of his anger and stays true to the Jedi way.

That’s all standard Jedi stuff.

Like, look at how Lucas describes what a Jedi normally does (left), versus what Luke does (right):

See what I mean? There’s pretty much no difference.

Luke isn’t “better than” or “rejecting the rules” of the Jedi who came before him. He’s following the Jedi path.

Which brings us to Luke in TLJ.

In TLJ, Luke says that following the Jedi path is a mistake, and that the Jedi teachings lead to failure.

I think a lot of people forget that… well… Luke is wrong, in TLJ. As Rian Johnson puts it:

Bottom line, Luke fucked up. Right here:

He saw a horrible vision of the future and considered killing his nephew. So points to him for not going on a rampage, like he did with Vader in ROTJ… but still. Big mistake.

And his reaction to this mistake is blaming it on the Jedi teachings and the Jedi path… when it’s his own personal failure.

He’s saying “I failed because I’m a Jedi Master, and as long as there are Jedi you’ll always have Sith so I’m taking myself outta the equation” and bla bla bla, when, actually, he messed up because he’s human and even the wisest humans are flawed and make mistakes.

Luke’s arc in TLJ is understanding that he failed…

… and learning from his failure.

Which is why he acknowledges that the Jedi teachings had nothing to do it with it and the Jedi should not die out.

So Luke in Episode 6 of Book of Boba Fett is VERY consistent with both Lucas’ view of the Jedi’s teachings and Luke’s character.

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Thought on the Jedi and Fandom

I suppose one thing that has affected how I see Star Wars is that I always associated what happened to the Jedi in ROTS with the word genocide. It didn’t take effort. I never had to be convinced that that’s what it was. I just remember being a kid, watching the Jedi being killed, and thinking “this is genocide”.

Coming from that, it’s weird to me how a lot of the fandom just refuses to use that word. Like, people go out of their way to avoid using the word genocide. The word I’ve mostly commonly heard associated with it is ‘balance’. More specifically, the phrase “Anakin killing the Jedi meant that there were 2 Jedi and 2 Sith, which meant that there was balance”. Setting aside how there is literally no support for that idea in the narrative, why connect the word balance with genocide?

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For me, the idea of two Jedi and two Sith being balance just doesn’t work because the movies themselves show otherwise:

The Force was left in darkness.  Even if one would want to try to argue that, well, Obi-Wan’s a Jedi, of course he would say that–the end of ROTS doesn’t come without the context of it being the rise of the Empire. To argue that two Sith and two Jedi is balance means arguing that the movies were showing us that through the rise of the Empire, through the victory of Palpatine, which I’m gonna go out on a limb and say was probably not the intention of the original trilogy, to show that their Empire was balance.  Because then the entire plot of the OT is about getting rid of the Sith and the, you know, Return of the Jedi, does that mean the end of the OT is showing the unbalancing of the Force again?  That’s what we’re taking away from the end of ROTJ? To say that the Force was balanced at the end of Revenge of the Sith is to say that it was achieved through showing the murder of children.  I just can’t wrap my head around the idea that George Lucas would be showing balance as being brought through the genocide of a people, including literal children in their home. That’s just not what Star Wars is in any way that I can imagine. This is all setting aside that the way George Lucas speaks of the Sith is that they are an unbalancing element, they are not necessary as part of the symbiosis of the galaxy. The thing that I think often gets confused–especially because marketing really tends to play into this–is the idea that the Sith and the Jedi are opposite sides of the same coin, that one side is the light side and one side is the dark side.  But they’re not.  The Sith are not an inversion of the Jedi, they are their own thing, just as the Jedi are not an inversion of the Sith, they are their own thing as well! The Sith are an offshoot of the Jedi and the ancient enemies of the Jedi, but that is not the same thing as being mirror images of each other. The Jedi teach their younglings that both light and dark are present within them all, but they must work to choose the light.  This is almost word for word how George Lucas describes the Force working.  The Sith teach that the dark side is the only true path, as well as the dark side is relentlessly described as a corrupting influence by pretty much every creator from George Lucas on down. Balance isn’t about equal amounts of light and dark, balance is about stability, about keeping the balance of the galaxy, about keeping balance with yourself and I’m pretty sure that showing a genocide, showing a young Padawan getting gunned down by clones, showing us tiny children going to Anakin for help, only to have him light his saber and watching them flinch away, showing us the slaughter of a people is not Star Wars trying to say, “Ah, yes, now the Force has been balanced.” No, the Force was left entirely unbalanced by genocide of the Jedi.

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Thought on the Jedi and Fandom

I suppose one thing that has affected how I see Star Wars is that I always associated what happened to the Jedi in ROTS with the word genocide. It didn’t take effort. I never had to be convinced that that’s what it was. I just remember being a kid, watching the Jedi being killed, and thinking “this is genocide”.

Coming from that, it’s weird to me how a lot of the fandom just refuses to use that word. Like, people go out of their way to avoid using the word genocide. The word I’ve mostly commonly heard associated with it is ‘balance’. More specifically, the phrase “Anakin killing the Jedi meant that there were 2 Jedi and 2 Sith, which meant that there was balance”. Setting aside how there is literally no support for that idea in the narrative, why connect the word balance with genocide?

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For me, the idea of two Jedi and two Sith being balance just doesn’t work because the movies themselves show otherwise:

The Force was left in darkness.  Even if one would want to try to argue that, well, Obi-Wan’s a Jedi, of course he would say that–the end of ROTS doesn’t come without the context of it being the rise of the Empire. To argue that two Sith and two Jedi is balance means arguing that the movies were showing us that through the rise of the Empire, through the victory of Palpatine, which I’m gonna go out on a limb and say was probably not the intention of the original trilogy, to show that their Empire was balance.  Because then the entire plot of the OT is about getting rid of the Sith and the, you know, Return of the Jedi, does that mean the end of the OT is showing the unbalancing of the Force again?  That’s what we’re taking away from the end of ROTJ? To say that the Force was balanced at the end of Revenge of the Sith is to say that it was achieved through showing the murder of children.  I just can’t wrap my head around the idea that George Lucas would be showing balance as being brought through the genocide of a people, including literal children in their home. That’s just not what Star Wars is in any way that I can imagine. This is all setting aside that the way George Lucas speaks of the Sith is that they are an unbalancing element, they are not necessary as part of the symbiosis of the galaxy. The thing that I think often gets confused–especially because marketing really tends to play into this–is the idea that the Sith and the Jedi are opposite sides of the same coin, that one side is the light side and one side is the dark side.  But they’re not.  The Sith are not an inversion of the Jedi, they are their own thing, just as the Jedi are not an inversion of the Sith, they are their own thing as well! The Sith are an offshoot of the Jedi and the ancient enemies of the Jedi, but that is not the same thing as being mirror images of each other. The Jedi teach their younglings that both light and dark are present within them all, but they must work to choose the light.  This is almost word for word how George Lucas describes the Force working.  The Sith teach that the dark side is the only true path, as well as the dark side is relentlessly described as a corrupting influence by pretty much every creator from George Lucas on down. Balance isn’t about equal amounts of light and dark, balance is about stability, about keeping the balance of the galaxy, about keeping balance with yourself and I’m pretty sure that showing a genocide, showing a young Padawan getting gunned down by clones, showing us tiny children going to Anakin for help, only to have him light his saber and watching them flinch away, showing us the slaughter of a people is not Star Wars trying to say, “Ah, yes, now the Force has been balanced.” No, the Force was left entirely unbalanced by genocide of the Jedi.

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