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Simply Stefanie Rae

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Doing an ST rewatch with a friend who has never seen it (which has been very fun but that's another post), but after watching 4.01 again I'm honestly just kinda baffled that so many people- both casual viewers and people more involved in fandom- consider Eddie and Chrissy to be a "canon" ship. They literally have one scene together where they actually talk, and they....smile? Are nice to each other despite incorrect preconceived notions of each other? Remember that each other existed in middle school? There is no explicit verbal flirting, no "man remember middle school? I had such a crush on you back then." Genuinely even less to it than I remembered. Especially since through this entire thing Chrissy was dating someone else who there's actually no evidence she had a problem with, but that's also another post.

If that truly makes something canon, then the bar for straight ships is literally on the floor.

If you're out here talking about how they have chemistry beneath just the words they said, or what could have been if canon hadn't happened, then like...that's fandom. You're doing fandom. XD Which is fine! That's what we're all doing! But the fact that so many people consider them to be literally canon based on this one interaction, but treat people who see similar or more interactions between same gender characters as reasons to ship them like weirdos, that ain't it. It's not canon, but more importantly, it's not actually necessary to insist it's canon for it to be valid. Just ship your fan ship like everybody else and be aware and admit that's what it is and I think we'd all have coexisted a lot better this past year. 😂

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or maybe people could have coexisted a lot better if a certain portion of the ST fandom didnt harass the actress non stop or insist people shipping hellcheer made them pedophiles. just a thought. and if people consider them canon, what's it to you exactly? stay in your lane and stop being part of this problem you're perceiving

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The harassment of Grace was a few people and was gross and unacceptable. 99% of steddie people did not do that and want nothing to do with those who did. Y'all have had bad actors as well. The pedophilia thing I've not seen that much of since Chrissy is pretty obviously a senior, but if you knew me at all you'd know that I am vehemently anti harassment for that kind of thing. I'm just tired of the "we're canon and you aren't therefore this ship is more valid/ correct" attitude, of which I've seen plenty, and of Hellcheer being talked about as a canon ship whenever I interact with the fandom in a wider capacity. Nobody's canon, and this rewatch reminded me of just how true that is. That's all I am saying here.

Peace ✌️

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But that isn't all you're saying. You're putting the entire blame for all the fighting within the two fandoms on hellcheer shippers just acting smug over their ship, while completely handwaving away steddie shippers harassment by saying 'well, I didn't see much of it myself, so it must have been a negligible amount of people therefore it's not worth mentioning as a cause.'

Never mind that I'v seen steddie shippers also claim canonship plenty, specifically in response to hellcheer, or if not canonship, insistence on Eddie being gay while then going on to accuse hellcheer shippers of being homophobic. It's a constant back and forth fight, except only one side is being accused of this awful thing. Like, it can't just ever be a normal 'my ship is better because of such and such evidence' with those people, they have to make it personal and potentially reputation damaging as well. Small amount of people or not, they consistently take it too far.

And I'm not saying it's you, I'm not even saying it's a giant part of the steddie fandom. That statistic is impossible to actually find out, but that fact is that it happened, a lot. But for whatever reason, the burden of making peace and 'behaving' is always put on hellcheer shippers only, when the only reason they act so high and mighty about their ship in the first place is because all the harassment made them defensive about it. They're just giving back a small portion what's been given to them for over a year.

I'm all for settling shit and not stirring the pot further and wanting people to be on their best behavior, but callout posts like this that are also tagged, accusing only that side of being bad eggs and that they need to do 'this and that' about how they talk about their ship is definitely not helping.

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gonna post some more of my hellcheer art on here since some people insist on clogging up the tag with their nonsense

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the good thing about twitter burning down is i may come back on here full force. trying to get my points across in twitter format was annoying as shit anyway

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Doing an ST rewatch with a friend who has never seen it (which has been very fun but that's another post), but after watching 4.01 again I'm honestly just kinda baffled that so many people- both casual viewers and people more involved in fandom- consider Eddie and Chrissy to be a "canon" ship. They literally have one scene together where they actually talk, and they....smile? Are nice to each other despite incorrect preconceived notions of each other? Remember that each other existed in middle school? There is no explicit verbal flirting, no "man remember middle school? I had such a crush on you back then." Genuinely even less to it than I remembered. Especially since through this entire thing Chrissy was dating someone else who there's actually no evidence she had a problem with, but that's also another post.

If that truly makes something canon, then the bar for straight ships is literally on the floor.

If you're out here talking about how they have chemistry beneath just the words they said, or what could have been if canon hadn't happened, then like...that's fandom. You're doing fandom. XD Which is fine! That's what we're all doing! But the fact that so many people consider them to be literally canon based on this one interaction, but treat people who see similar or more interactions between same gender characters as reasons to ship them like weirdos, that ain't it. It's not canon, but more importantly, it's not actually necessary to insist it's canon for it to be valid. Just ship your fan ship like everybody else and be aware and admit that's what it is and I think we'd all have coexisted a lot better this past year. 😂

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or maybe people could have coexisted a lot better if a certain portion of the ST fandom didnt harass the actress non stop or insist people shipping hellcheer made them pedophiles. just a thought. and if people consider them canon, what's it to you exactly? stay in your lane and stop being part of this problem you're perceiving

#the nerve to act like all this animosity stemmed from simple disagreements of ships
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Brief Chrissy Analysis

It says brief in the title but I sure bet it's gonna be anything but that by the end of this : )

So I was thinking about Chrissy's Vecna visions/ her relationship with her mom and how her life might be at home; those visions say so much in such a little amount of time, it's fun (sorry Chrissy) to dissect. I'm glad we all agree that her mom sucks, and it's interesting to read in fics the various interpretations of said suckage, but I wanted to give my own idea of how I think she sucks because there's a bit that is often overlooked because it's seen as the exaggerated nightmare part of her visions and not something that Laura Cunningham actually is, and that's someone with a volatile temper.

During Chrissy's first vision in the bathroom, we hear Laura ask in a very saccharine voice if she wants to try on the dress after she loosened it, then immediately gets angry and demands that she opens the door. The point she begins to yell is when people think (me included for a bit) the exaggerated nightmare part of the vision begins because she starts yelling about gutting her like a pig after, and that most of her verbal abuse comes in the form of these subtle emotional manipulations, and I don't think that's a wrong interpretation by any means. It's obviously impossible to know the true specifics of the abuse since we only got a small glimpse of it, but that's not gonna stop me from over analyzing, which brings me to the door.

In the vision, Laura yells at Chrissy to open the door and starts beating against it erratically, immediately giving us a much scarier version of her mom then we just heard. This alone wouldn't make me think it's an accurate portrayal of her since Vecna is known to obviously embellish in order to scare his victims as much as possible.

But the door scene happens twice.

For that beat in the visions to play out two times tells me that it's significant to Chrissy, and Vecna knows this so he uses it against her. He waits for specific moments where Chrissy is behind a door or closes the door behind her to really ramp up the visions, and I don't believe that's a coincidence. I think there were many times where Chrissy became overwhelmed during her moms fittings when the clothes wouldn't fit, and instead of continuing to listen to her and try on the dress or the uniform or whatever she altered for her, she'd run to her room in a moment of panic and lock the door, and thats when her mom would drop the sweet, understanding act and lose her temper with her. How these fights would conclude is anyone's guess.

From my readings of the scenes, I really do think Laura Cunningham is an awful, confusing mix of passive aggressive and just straight up aggressive when she interacts with Chrissy. Tying her weight directly to beauty is already awful enough; it's planting in Chrissy's head that being thin = being beautiful. But tying in Laura's temper doesn't just make is so Chrissy is afraid of being looked at as ugly or disappointing her mom, but being genuinely afraid of making her mom mad. Vecna made Laura the monster in her visions for a reason, the true focal point rather than food and gaining weight, even if the rotting food on the dining room table gets zeroed in on. All of Chrissy's issues ties directly back to her mom, the actual monster she's afraid of.

Her dad in the vision lends credence to my idea that Laura's verbal abuse is a lot more cutting and intimidating than we think. We know her dad's eyes and mouth are sewn shut in the second vision, visually representing this idea of willful blindness; he sees the abuse Laura inflicts on Chrissy but he pretends he doesn't. But he's also sewn in place to the chair, and the aspect that gets overlooked is that he is sewn to the chair, that his eyes and mouth are sewn shut. The character we should immediately be associating this with is Laura. Vecna didn't just sew her dad up like that for the horror element , it's tying his inability to help his daughter directly to Laura, the character who alters clothes and has her own sewing room, as the cause. It's a violent display, safe to say that she's just as vile and overbearing to him as she is Chrissy. There may have been a time he fought for Chrissy and spoke up about Laura's abuse, but she clearly turned it back around on him. We see him at Chrissy's funeral, standing behind Laura meekly and not saying a word, very pointedly. It's so obvious she takes charge in their relationship, and him being sewn into being unable to move or speak or see gives a good visual representation on how that dynamic plays out.

I knew this wouldn't be brief. All this to say, I personally think Laure Cunningham is actually a very scary, awful mom, and a lot more capable of losing control of her temper than she tends to be written. But all interpretations are valid, just wanted to give my two (thousand) cents.

#stranger things#stranger things 4#chrissy#chrissy cunningham#chrissy this is for you#meta#sorta#anyway does it massively piss anyone else off that lauras never going to suffer any consequences for her abuse#gets me mad : )))))
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so many porn bots so little time jesus lordy

so if i report and block like 5-10 a day surely thatll be enough to weed them all out of my followers. idk how tumblr just let it get this bad tho

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