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we'll never be those kids again

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Anonymous asked:

do you think jon or sansa already has romantic feeling and/or attraction to one another in seasons 6 and 7? are they aware of it,

Because sparks were flying right away, i think they were instantly attracted to one another but that they could write it off as nothing more than relief and gratitude over having found each other and being the only two Starks left (to their knowledge).

Jon most likely grew increasingly aware, though, and increasingly bothered by it. But attraction doesn’t have to mean love and I think he could keep brushing off little moments where it was sneaking up on him. 

When she gave him the cloak and he had his little, “Wait, what?” look, he could blame it being an emotional moment in general. When they argued in the tent, he could blame the intense life-and-death situation and their desperation to come out of it alive.

But then he kissed her forehead. That’s the day he could no longer pretend this was anything but romantic love. His instinct was to kiss her on the mouth too. He felt himself leaning in, lips still slightly parted… He wanted more and it was no denying it any longer.

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The pain in his eyes, the way he now presses his lips together, nods, attempts to leave asap for no good reason… Oh, he knew.

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By season 7 I think he accepts it. Not without shame, not at all, but that it’s how he feels and that he can’t do much about it and that hopefully it’ll mellow and maybe even go away in time. And if it doesn’t, he’ll just keep doing his best to protect her and never let her know how he feels.

She really is his secret treasure, his shame, and his bliss, and I think he avoids alone time with her if he can help it. Their confrontation after the meeting could’ve taken place in his office, in private, (like in the leaked outline) but that’s too intimate, isn’t it? Instead he talked to her in a place where they’re somewhat secluded, granted, but technically in public. Anyone in the courtyard could watch them. And there were no closed doors keeping anyone from approaching them and interrupting them.

While away, he also avoids talking about her. She’s in his thoughts and in his heart day and night, though, and he worries that she won’t welcome him home after what he’s been forced to do, but then he sees her in the courtyard, waiting for him, smiling at him, welcoming him with open arms and…

That look. He loves her and maybe that’s obvious to everyone around him, but in this moment he does not give a shit. All he sees is her. All he wants is her. Everything else be damned.

Sansa, however… I don’t think she’s fully aware. The attraction’s been there since their reunion and it’s evident in several scenes (like in the tent, where she’s definitely affected by the tension). They even made sure to show us that she likes gazing at Jon like a proud wife when he speaks while Davos keeps his eyes forward instead of craning his neck.

But she doesn’t carry the same kind of angst about it that Jon does. Sansa is better at controlling her emotions, so she’s repressed it and kept her focus elsewhere and, I think, mostly relaxes in his presence because Jon doesn’t expect affection or touches from her, which is quite the relief after what she’s been through. (And why it easier for her to give and accept affection, and why it’s easier for her to walk into his space or grab his hand, his arm etc, and why she doesn’t shy away when he moves into hers. She trusts him the way she trusts no other man.)

Jon’s behavior in the forehead kiss scene leaves her looking perplexed, but not uncomfortable. She even prolongs the interaction by calling him back when he tries to leave. I think she’s also perplexed that he got so hurt by her Joffrey comment, but that she doesn’t want to examine it further. It’s easier to think Jon’s just sensitive and move on, because the truth is a bit much to swallow.

Then Jon leaves. That was painful for her. Painful enough that she had to make herself smile to ease his worries. Painful enough that she stayed on the balcony long after Jon was out of view. Painful enough that LF instantly realized that what he just found out down in the crypts could be reciprocated.

But if Sansa had been fully aware, I don’t think she would’ve mentioned Jon quite as much. I think she would’ve avoided talking about him.

When she and Arya talk and she remembers the reunion and how happy Jon was (and how happy she herself was), I think it’s clear from Sansa’s behavior that it’s a memory that means the world to her. It’s probably one of her fondest memories since leaving home because it’s affection untainted by ulterior motives. It’s so important and makes her so happy that she needs to share it, but she can’t quite keep eye contact as she does it because there’s some part of her that knows that it’s precious and private. Some part of her knows there’s something about it she needs to keep hidden. Jon’s her shame and her bliss and her secret treasure too.

Once Littlefinger goaded her about a j0nerys marriage, though, I think it got harder for Sansa to lie to herself.

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Jealousy is jealousy, after all, but because of the taboo, I think she’s tried to keep lying to herself even after this. She can easily pretend she’s just protective of Jon and worried about him. That she’s protective and worried about the North. She has good reason to dislike D*ny that has nothing to do with romantic jealousy. It doesn’t have to mean what she knows in her heart that it means.

That won’t last long, though. Once Jon returns home Sansa will know.

Both from the relief of having him back and from how she’ll feel about D*ny, who’ll be a rival in more ways than one. Sansa will remember that awful sensation in her chest from when LF talked about a j0nerys marriage and she’ll know. And then it’ll be very hard for her and Jon to suppress their instincts and repress their feelings. And that should become pretty obvious early on.

Thanks for the ask!

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babybells123

Do you ever think about how Jon and Sansa are the only stark kids to explicitly refer to themselves as ‘the blood of Winterfell.’ Because if I think on it too much I’ll go insane …. I don’t get how people can say this is delulu ship when new things are discovered everyday it’s just so thematically, textually rich on a narrative level on a character level on a personal level

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babybells123

No but you don’t understand . I need Jonsa to be a tangled mess of depravity and tenderness. Grief haunting them - the ghosts of their past connecting them in some irrevocable way, because perhaps that’s the only way they know how to bond - initially, at the very least. Estranged but bursting with love but not knowing how to show it because ‘we were never close.’ But Sansa used to teach me courtesy, and Jon used to sneak me lemon cakes when no one was watching. I love you so much but I feel as if you’re a stranger to me and I don’t know how to change that. Do you wish it was arya who walked through those gates or I should have been a better brother to you, I should have ridden north for you. Please just let me hold you in my arms until our hardened hearts soften again. Until something ineffable develops. And to their horror, they realise this raw and fresh and beautiful (damaged) bond that they have created. And then comes the angst. The yearning. The unspoken words. Religious disillusionment. Inadequacy. Shame shame shame. Understanding slowly burning brighter, until they realise how similar they actually are and oh my god , you were there the whole time and I never even realised. But she was radiant and glowed brighter than any star in the sky, how could I not ??? Now give me your hands and I’ll kiss your fingers one by one, I’ll gentle each tip the way you’ve deserved. And I’m here, I see you. I’m not leaving, but gods am I a vile being. Look at how this world has corrupted me.

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Anonymous asked:

I mean i don't have a problem if people just dislike cat or sansa, its ok because i myself don't like arya much. The problem for me is when i look deeper and find the reasons, most of it is misogyny. My biggest beef with this fandom is absolving ned and robb of their part in stark family's downfall and instead blaming cat and sansa. When by virtue of being heads of their houses, ned and robb were like 95% responsible. With power comes responsibility and accountability. Sansa and Cat have nothing on them lmao. Even cat made a few mistakes, that i hold her accountable for (nothing like ned and robb obviously) but Sansa!!???? Fuck this fandom and dudebros and their misogyny. "women don't like accountability" well men don't like it other as is evident with placing the blame on an 11 year old girl who had literally no say in her betrothal!

hi, anon! yeah, i'm fully in agreement that everyone is entitled to like or dislike certain characters without needing to justify themselves. we're all individuals, so different people are going to click with different characters. that's fine.

but you're right that so often when people say they dislike sansa or cat, they go on to give reasons for their dislike that are either steeped in misogyny or reveal a fundamental misreading of the text or both!

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Anonymous asked:

My fav jonsa foreshadowing is the 'blood of winterfell' bit. Because while all the Starks identify strongly with wolf/Stark/winterfell/north motifs, this term is only ever used for Jon and Sansa, and once by Stannis for a potential ruler of Winterfell. Its on the nose that whose blood will continue the Stark line.

hi, anon! that is a really interesting bit of foreshadowing. considering how often discussions of the stark family, winterfell, and the succession thereof come up over the course of the series, it seems pointed that this specific phrase—"the blood of winterfell"—exists but is only mentioned on these specific occasions.

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Rules: In a new post, show the last line you wrote (or drew) and tag as many people as there are words. Or as many as you feel like. tagged by @intoapuddle (<3)

you know, when you haven't been writing much, it can be really hard to figure out what the last line you wrote was XD. but i believe it is this, which i will put under a read more because it's nsfw:

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alayne-stone

For the @jonsa-creatives event in celebration of Queen Sansa's anniversary.

"You,” Ned said, kissing her lightly on the brow, “will marry a king and rule his castle, and your sons will be knights and princes and lords and, yes, perhaps even a High Septon.” Arya screwed up her face. "No," she said, "that's Sansa."

A Game of Thrones Eddard V.

Sansa was watching it from her tower window when Ser Arys Oakheart arrived to escort her down to the tourney grounds. "What do you think it means?" she asked him.
"Glory to your betrothed," ..."He is the dragon's heir"

A Clash of Kings Sansa I.

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