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@the-real-seebs since you’re ignoring my ask:
you’re a literal psychopath. you can’t do something “because it’s the right thing to do”. there has to be a reason behind it. what is it?
When the patrol caught us at Bight-of-the-Cliff and I was wounded, seebs drew them off so the wounded could be saved.
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@the-real-seebs since you’re ignoring my ask:
you’re a literal psychopath. you can’t do something “because it’s the right thing to do”. there has to be a reason behind it. what is it?
When our water went below minim at the siege at Two Birds, seebs shared.
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also, giving money to a select few other people doesn't count as a "hobby". you... i was about to say you get nothing out of it, but actually, i'm wrong about that, you get their trust and they'll do anything for you to pay it back.
Okay, this one deserves an actual response, I think.
I think you massively overestimate how much practical benefit there is to have from poor people thinking you’re nice. Although I do remember one person who contributed more money to me over a few years than I’d given them, once. But… Like, what exactly do you think I ask them to do? Why would I need this?
I just think it’s sort of terrifying that you can’t imagine doing a thing for its own sake. Like, seriously, you can’t imagine this? If you had enough money that you could cover your expenses and have enough left over to be adequately supplied with shiny things, and you knew someone who was starving, you wouldn’t send them money? And you think I’m the creepy one?
And what makes you think they necessarily trust me? Some of them don’t. I think some of them sorta hate me. I… don’t really care?
Like, the point of feeding the hungry isn’t that you get the obedience of hungry people. It’s that they stop being hungry. Did you miss the part where I’m religious, and my religion specifically says to feed the hungry, buy people clothes, take care of sick people, stuff like that? Is it really that unthinkable to you that I’d do this? Why?
“Now, someone who takes a man who is clothed and renders him naked would be termed a robber; but when someone fails to clothe the naked, while he is able to do this, is such a man deserving of any other appellation? The bread which you hold back belongs to the hungry; the coat, which you guard in your locked storage-chests, belongs to the naked; the footwear mouldering in your closet belongs to those without shoes. The silver that you keep hidden in a safe place belongs to the one in need. Thus, however many are those whom you could have provided for, so many are those whom you wrong.“ St. Basil the Great, Sermon on the text “I Will Pull Down My Barns and Build Bigger Ones”. https://bekkos.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/st-basil-on-stealing-from-the-poor/
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well, yeah, that's the justification you're using. but it's also complete bullshit, you're just convincing them they have a history of gender.
I don’t see any basis for your theory. I’m not “convincing” people of things. They’re telling me about these things and I’m saying “huh, you know, that’s unusual.”
So the thing is, statistically, I’m more likely to try to convince someone they’re trans than to try to convince them that they’re not, because most people start out assuming they’re cis. But it’s not 100% consistent. I’ve talked to people who were identifying as more-trans and suggested that they might be happier considering things a different way, possibly as “cis but sort of gender-nonconforming” or “just really upset in general”, and so on.
But your fervent belief that Trans Doesn’t Real is very odd. I’d been assuming that you were in some way part of or related to the forum community, but I don’t think we have anyone in that community who’s that vehemently anti-trans.
You’re clearly hearing about forum stuff secondhand, and your source is sorta unreliable. They told you that “half the forum” allegedly “figured out” that Wildspyer was actually palindromordnilap, but they didn’t mention that “half the forum” was completely wrong and jumping at shadows, and actually it was someone else who has since come forward and talked about it. You also pick up a lot of mischaracterizations of events.
So, you think trans doesn’t real, and you hate BPD a lot, and you are convinced that I’m secretly a multimillionaire from my incredibly lucrative thing of suing junk faxers, and… like, none of this makes any sense at all. Seriously, talk this shit over with some people who are basically familiar with how money works or something.
That said: I have also now established pretty solidly that “harassment anon” is probably two or three different people who have different agendas. I’m pretty sure you’re Misgendering Anon, who thinks trans doesn’t real and sent the misgendering rape threat last September/October. If you think that’s someone else, I’m gonna need to see some kind of evidence, because all you’ve given so far is your claim that you’re a better person than that, and I don’t think aggressive doxxing and misgendering is particularly better than sending internet rape threats.
History of gender is actually quite a fascinating field.
Do I have to start following shit on tumblr again? Fuck.
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
On antis, etc.
Some may find the linked article and the decision of the court linked within the article of interest.
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this person is an adult. like, they’re grown. they’re not in grade school
medicine
they prolly read too much foucault too
norighttoshipabuse
“Sexualizing minors is okay but you calling me out on it isn’t” yeah this person isn’t twisted at alllll
queerinbothsenses
oh my god. take your head out of your ass it’s not a hat. all roach is saying is that it’s not pedophilia to be attracted to a phisically mature person.
medicine
put the foucault down buddy
ittlevivi
Maybe it’s because I enjoyed studying law as a Journalist but how is the best bit not them basically threatening people with a libel lawsuit? Libel is an expensive ass legal case usually reserved for people who actually have a reputation or finances to ruin who want to stop the press talking shit, not tumblr artists who draw Homestuck porn.
Assuming they somehow had the money to take someone to court for libel and their case was somehow credited as having a leg to stand on (requires evidence of financial loss or emotional distress). the defendant would just turn around and go: Hey man. Public Interest. I’m just letting the public know this person is a paedophile supporter and therefore a danger to the public. I don’t even have to find evidence, it’s there on their blog and they admit to drawing under 18′s lmao.
and that’s how roach would put themselves into inescapable debt for the rest of their lives if not almost immediately charged for posession of child porn. Which was a way more serious crime than libel last time I checked.
1. Damages are not required in a libel per se case. Here, RP is arguably within two categories for a per se defamation claim. Look ‘em up.
2. Considering at least one of the people driving this little crusade are in a competing business and considering explicit statements that this little crusade is intended to damage RP’s standing in that business, there is a decent case that they are engaging in Deceptive Trade Practices. Look it up.
3. There is no “public interest” defense to defamation or UDAP claims.
4. “Charges” do not result in “inescapable debt”. Your little J-school law class seems to have not covered bankruptcy.
5. DId they teach you to use “lmao” as punctuation at J-school or did you pick that up on your own?
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So the thing where purrsphne attempted to send “child porn” to Luka, but technically did not succeed in doing so because the images they picked don’t appear to actually be “child porn” in any jurisdiction around here, got me to thinking.
If you try to kill someone, and fail because you’re incompetent, you can still be charged with “attempted murder”.
Why don’t we have laws about “attempted pornography” or “attempted obscenity”.
And seriously can you imagine how utterly embarassing it would be to stand trial on charges of “attempted obscenity”, where it is the prosecution’s allegation that you made a genuine effort to do something disgusting and purient without redeeming social value, and ended up failing?
Come to think of it, I seem to recall Alan Moore once claiming that Lost Girls was intended to be “pornography”, and insofar as the term implies a lack of literary merit, I think they failed to achieve their goal.
About ten seconds on Google finds recent news reports of prosecutions for attempted possession of child pornography. That’s without even any real research.
Without further research, but just recollection from Crim, inchoate crimes such as attempt and conspiracy have their own statutes. These are “generic”, so to speak, crimes in which one can slot in any other offense such as murder or kidnapping or possession of narcotics as part of the inchoate offense.
In addition, a few seconds’ thought would show you are comparing different things. “Murder” is a verb often used as a noun. “Pornography” and “obscenity” are never verbs. One can only be criminally prosecuted for actions (verbs), not nouns.
I think you have unintentionally slipped into the stupid Tumblr mindset of wanting to prosecute badthought/badbeing. Since I know your actual opinion is otherwise, consider just how easy it is to fall into that just by not being careful about words.
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You know, I didn’t think it’d get creepier, but it did. See, there’s context to the sudden out-of-left-field accusations of “pedophilia” directed at roachpatrol.
A while back, Roach suggested donations to the Holocaust Museum equal to (or greater than) the cover price of the Captain America issue where the character Jewish dudes made to show that fighting Nazis was patriotic turns out to be a Nazi. And a lot of people have done so, enough that the Holocaust Museum people are aware of the sudden increase in donations.
And suddenly, Roach is being attacked. By someone who’s really proud of his fascist OC with a sorta strikingly familiar armband on his uniform. By someone who has a history of talking about hating “retards” (his word, not mine). And so on. And suddenly he’s got his friends talking shit about the nice Jewish lady.
Yeah, that’s creepy.
WHOOPSIE
okay if i find out this sudden surge of pedophilia accusations is down to RAY’S CREEPY FUCKING HISTORY OF NAZI FANBOY BULLSHIT I AM GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY GODDAMN MAD. .
that anon who submitted that stupid law report thing talked just like him, too, and he’s done that kind of thing before. didn’t he try to get someone’s kids taken away via a fake report of child abuse because they’d written fanfiction he didn’t like?
oh yeah, this is definitely one of ray’s little campaigns. ray the nazi-aesthetic fanboy, racist, ableist, misogynist, twenty-something who pretends to be a minor and grooms minors to stroke his ego and do his dirty work.
he doesn’t like that a jewish woman is popular in one of his fandoms. that’s why this is happening.
it’s definitely not about your aged-up homestucks artwork. he’s drawn and written plenty of porn about cronus ampora. (and of course the genital torture murder fic he refused to tag ‘noncon’ until ao3 threatened to take it down, and then took the tag off later because he thought they wouldn’t notice, because it’s totes not rape if HE writes it you guys.) it’s not about anything you’ve done. it’s about ray being a malignant narcissist who resents you for existing.
anyone who’s attacking roach based on rumors and conclusion-jumping right now: good job doing ray’s dirty work. i hope you feel super great about that. especially the part where you’re trying to discredit roach’s efforts to get donations to the holocaust museum. i’m sure they’ll understand when the donations taper off because some utter pillock on the tumbles said roach is a kiddie fiddler and you believed it because being angry makes you feel tingly.
good job, internet heroes.
are you fucking kidding me.
@roachpatrol if this defamation affects your livelihood and your ability to make money, l strongly recommend seeking out a lawyer. wrongfully calling someone a pedophile is kind of a bad thing to say about someone in itself, and if you’re losing money on it, it’s super duper actionable.
Bonus cause of action: Deceptive trade practices/unfair competition.
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I for one doubt it if only because it’s a prisoner case. They would have convicted him for drawing tiddy on the wall of his cell if they could. Also, further confusion: is it a nolo or a guilty?
I’m still laughing at “case study” oh my god
It’s a nolo plea--says so right in the caption. Which, strangely enough, doesn’t say “case study”.
I’m thinking appeal bait because there’s no reason for him to plea, especially an oddball plea like no contest. He gets a free federal PD (who are not as crazy overworked as state PDs and have the time and funds to occasionally put on a real defense).
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thefloweryfanclub(.)tumblr(.)com/post/144935791067/drawing-porn-of-child-characters-from-comics-or where I describe a case where a person was convicted for just drawings. The drawings are described in detail in the pdf that's in the post. Person is awaiting sentencing currently. This was April 2016.
So? I can find examples of people being convicted of all sorts of ludicrous things based on ludicrous misreadings of the law. People who were already in prison tend to get screwed over really badly in court. Without actually going into a heck of a lot more detail on the case, and seeing what happens with any appeals, I wouldn’t really place a lot of weight on it.
I dunno. So far as I can tell you’re some random person who hasn’t actually done law school, let alone gotten licensed, and I am sort of concerned about you giving me legal advice. Have you even checked what jurisdiction I live in, let alone verified that you’re licensed to practice here? If not, maybe… you know, don’t give me legal advice? I am not a lawyer, and I do my best to be careful not to present my understanding (which is very limited) as legal advice. I qualify with which things I have been told by lawyers, and which are “my understanding”, and even then I feel a little worried that people might mistakenly assume I know more about the law than I do.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say I’ve probably been licensed to practice longer than this person has been toilet trained.
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thefloweryfanclubNot following each otherToday at 10:40 PM
thefloweryfanclubWell, a “fucking lawyer”, you’re incorrect.
lawpixelsi’m licensed in the state of texas
thefloweryfanclubIn April 2016 a man was convicted for possessing 6 drawings - yes, DRAWINGS - of child porn.
lawpixelswhere are you licensed?
thefloweryfanclubTexas. I could have guessed.
lawpixelswhere are you licensed?
lawpixelswhat is your authority for interpreting statutes on the internet?
thefloweryfanclubThe evidence shows that on or about May 5, 2015, in the Dallas Division of the Northern District of Texas, Defendant, in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, did knowingly possessa visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct, as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. §2256(2)(A), which is obscene, to wit: at Seagoville Federal Correctional Institution (FCI), Defendantdid knowingly possess visual depictions of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct that are obscene. Specifically, while Defendant was an inmate at Seagoville FCI—which is in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States—serving a 180-month term of imprisonment for transportation and possession of child pornography, prison officials found seven visual depictions—all drawings—of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct that are obscene in Case 3:15-cr-00492-N Document 19 Filed 04/13/16 Page 2 of 5 PageID 41
lawpixelswhat is your bar number?
thefloweryfanclubThe evidence shows that on or about May 5, 2015, in the Dallas Division of the Northern District of Texas, Defendant, in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, did knowingly possessa visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct, as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. §2256(2)(A), which is obscene, to wit: at Seagoville Federal Correctional Institution (FCI), Defendantdid knowingly possess visual depictions of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct that are obscene. Specifically, while Defendant was an inmate at Seagoville FCI—which is in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States—serving a 180-month term of imprisonment for transportation and possession of child pornography, prison officials found seven visual depictions—all drawings—of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct that are obscene in Case 3:15-cr-00492-N Document 19 Filed 04/13/16 Page 2 of 5 PageID 41
Read the case study.You do know how to do that, correct?
lawpixelsi know how to read
thefloweryfanclubThen please do.
lawpixelswhat i don’t know is how to engage with someone who won’t answer my questions
in what state are you licensed?
what makes you qualified to interpret caselaw and statutory law?
thefloweryfanclubI’m studying.
lawpixelsawesome!
thefloweryfanclubYou, oh wise one, can interpret the law fortunately.
lawpixelswhere are you studying?
thefloweryfanclubSo please.The case study.
lawpixelsdo they know you’re engaging in the unauthorized practice of law?
lawpixelsi told you, i won’t read until you answer my questions
where are you studying and in what state?
are you informing them that you are engaging in the unauthorized practice of law?
thefloweryfanclubNew York
lawpixelsoh cool!
thefloweryfanclubLmao.
lawpixelssecond circuit is awesome
what law school? i almost picked cornell ngl
thefloweryfanclubYour fearmongering isn’t going to work. Read the case study.
lawpixelswhat fearmongering?
lawpixelswhat, specifically, do you allege that i am mongering?
special exceptions, please
thefloweryfanclub“prison officials found seven visual depictions—all drawings—of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct that are obscene in Case 3:15-cr-00492-N Document 19 Filed 04/13/16 Page 2 of 5 PageID 41 ”
lawpixelsi specially except to your pleading and demand a more specific allegation before i proceed with your voluminous and galactically overbroad discovery production
thefloweryfanclubHe was convicted based off of this evidence. Kindly read it.
And quit deflecting.
lawpixelsi am not deflecting
thefloweryfanclubIt’s so obvious what you’re doing.
lawpixelsi am attempting to engage in this conversation on an even level with you
which i cannot do until i know what your allegations are against me
specify what you claim is fearmongering
or i will not engage with you
because it is becoming clear to me that you do not wish to have a dialogue
thefloweryfanclubMy allegations are that you refuse to read the fucking case study
prison officials found seven visual depictions—all drawings—of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct that are obscene in Case 3:15-cr-00492-N Document 19 Filed 04/13/16 Page 2 of 5 PageID 41
lawpixelsand you do not wish to have this in public
if you wanted this to be public, you would have replied to my pos
tinstead, you seem to wish to want to berate me privately so i will somehow change my mind
on clearly established first amendment jurisprudence, may i add
thefloweryfanclubIt’s long enough as it is. This could be a long dialogue.
lawpixelson clearly established first amendment jurisprudence, may i add
thefloweryfanclubRead the case study.
lawpixelsif scotus doesn’t know what actual porn is, what makes you think it knows what child porn is
thefloweryfanclubThe man was convicted on 6 drawings of child porn.
lawpixelsread the statute
“is obscene” allows for a great variance in expression
lawpixelswhich does actually allow for people to draw child porn
i know you hate being wrong
thefloweryfanclubRead the case study.
lawpixelsplease, look up your jurisprudence
thefloweryfanclubRead the case study.
lawpixelsi refuse to engage with your arguments until you consider mine
so it appears we are at an impasse
thefloweryfanclubYou can’t read a case study.
Incredible.
Decide for yourself whether the drawings were obscene.
A court did.
And convicted the man for possessing the six drawings, which it deemed obscene.
lawpixelswhat was the appeal
or is it still ongoing
what is the statute
please compare to other statutes the supreme court has ruled unconstitutional
thefloweryfanclubHe pleaded guilty. He’s awaiting sentencing as of April 2016.
Which was last month.
lawpixelsdistrict court cases are rarely cited because they have little precedential value
thefloweryfanclubIn case you’re unaware.
lawpixelspleading guilty doesn’t mean guilty
thefloweryfanclubThe court found him guilty of possessing the drawings.
lawpixelsit means an arrangement was reached between the prosecutor and the defendant
thefloweryfanclubThe drawings were deemed illegal.
And obscene.
lawpixelswait, so did he plead guilty or was he adjudicated guilty?
what’s your story here?
thefloweryfanclubThe drawings were deemed illegal and obscene.
lawpixelsthese are two totally different things
thefloweryfanclubRead the case study.https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-txnd-3_15-cr-00492/pdf/USCOURTS-txnd-3_15-cr-00492-0.pdf
lawpixelswere they found factually obscene, or were they found legally obscene?
thefloweryfanclubGood lord.
lawpixelsif you can’t tell me, then it tells me you actually don’t know what you’re talking about
you don’t know the difference between factual and legal sufficiency
you don’t know the difference between a plea and an adjudication
please continue to go to school
thefloweryfanclub…have you ever been to law school in your life?
lawpixelsyou cannot pass the bar right now in a state as hard as new york
i am licensed in the state of texas
thefloweryfanclubYou don’t know how to read a case study?
You don’t know how to read a case study.
lawpixelsthat’s why i’m asking you whether it was adjudged legal or factual
i do
thefloweryfanclubHoly shit.
lawpixelsi’m choosing not to because i believe you are full of shit
thefloweryfanclubTexas is an intersting place.
lawpixelsi’m also publishing this conversation
thefloweryfanclubLawyers won’t read a case study.
lawpixelssince you seem so keen on keeping it private
thefloweryfanclubGood.Read the case study.https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-txnd-3_15-cr-00492/pdf/USCOURTS-txnd-3_15-cr-00492-0.pdf
Perhaps your followers know how to read case studies.
lawpixelsi won’t block you because i believe you should be able to say your peace
thefloweryfanclubI hope they see the link.
lawpixelsoh my followers do that’s the thing
thefloweryfanclubI believe you should read the case study.
lawpixelsi am not the only person who thinks you are full of shit
thefloweryfanclubBut apparently you’re having a “see no evil” moment.
Ironically.
lawpixelsi believe i’m not going to read it because i don’t beleive you’re approaching this from an intellectually honest point of view
really?
i see plenty of evil
thefloweryfanclubNo doubt….
lawpixelswhat’s that saying about logs and splinters
thefloweryfanclubThat’s the irony.
lawpixelswhat irony?
that you’re deliberately misinterpreting a statute and cherrypicking non-precedential caselaw?
thefloweryfanclubThe case study is too scary for you.
lawpixelsthat you refuse to have a refutation publicly and instead choose to berate me privately?
that you can’t have an argument on the principles and instead cite to a case that has no precedential value?
thefloweryfanclubYou want this whole “I can’t see it lalalala!” convo public, post it.
lawpixelsi’m not reading the case because it’s not relevant
can’t see what?
i’m not saying i can’t see it
thefloweryfanclubPost it in as many tags as you want. I just like using the messaging system.https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-txnd-3_15-cr-00492/pdf/USCOURTS-txnd-3_15-cr-00492-0.pdf
lawpixelsi’m just saying that it’s not worth anything
i am telling you, right now, that the “case study” you have picked is not a legal opinion expounding on the meaning of the statute
thefloweryfanclubTexas is an interesting place. No case study, he says.
Not worth anything.
lawpixelsthe “case study” you have picked, you can’t even tell me if it was a plea or an adjudication, if it was a judge or a jury
thefloweryfanclubYou haven’t read it.
lawpixelsyou don’t know what you’re citing to
you can’t tell me anything about it
you’ve refused to
thefloweryfanclubI don’t care to give you more information because you’re boring.
lawpixelsand, since i have an actual real person job to go to in the morning that involves me suing doctors, i believe i’ll stop engaging with you now
thefloweryfanclubYou can read it yourself.
lawpixelsi hope you have a good rest of your night!
hope this didn’t make you too upset that i refuse to engage with you
what followed: continuing to engage, an accusation that i am a donald trump supporter, continued misgendering, and an accusation that i would somehow manipulate the truth, so i guess it did make thefloweryfanclub upset that i refused to engage
screencaps upon request
A magistrate judge’s R&R accepting a no contest plea is not a case study or precedent for anything. This looks to me like a set up for an appeal.