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hi, ummm. this is awkward. haha. yeah um do you think you could push your boulder up somewhere else? like a different hill? because this one’s kind of already taken. yeah it’s the one i’ve decided to die on, so.

yeah thanks. um and if you see that woman who sometimes comes running up here could you tell her that i’m- yeah the one who makes all those deals with god. yeah. could you tell her this is the hill i’m dying on and she needs to find a different one? fuck hang on i can see those two kids with that pail of water again give me a second-

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Ok my historical costuming friends, I have a question for you! I’m considering doing a Temeraire cosplay, but I think this would be useful for fic too. We know that Jane Roland wears stays because Laurence packs them for her in HMD, but do we think she wears stays under her uniform or only in dresses? If not stays, some other kind of undergarment maybe?

More context on historical period and this series under the cut for people who might be interested but haven’t read the books.

I’ve thought about this a lot, and I’m actually slowly building my own cosplay for Emily. My instinct is to stack the layers like this, from the skin out, shirt, stays, breeches, waistcoat, officers coat (and of course a VERY CLEAN neck cloth, lol). As a curvier person, I would wear older style stays, like 1780s-90s, because the silhouette would be more discreet than the Ye Olde Regency push up bras, and you’d have a better chance of passing for male from a distance.

I imagine that in an aviator’s usual state (more dressed down than Lawrence would allow) that the aviators probably strip down to their shirts when they’re not on active duty, and probably a lot of the aviators who wear stays go around with just their stays over their shirts when it’s only aviators around. 18th century stays were acceptable outerwear for working class women who were doing hard labor in hot weather, and from Emily we get the impression that there wasn’t a lot of learned body consciousness around gender in young aviators who were raised to the life.

Stays as outerwear was also a thing for rich women who were doing their era’s version of CottageCore aesthetic play acting (think Marie Antoinette’s little pretend village she used for private retreats with her friends).

Regency stays were less commonly worn as outerwear, as far as I know, though I know less about working women’s clothes during that era. It definitely wasn’t a thing by the Victorian era outside of performance type costumes.

Honestly, aviators would probably do whatever is most discreet and comfortable until such time as female aviators were widely accepted enough for it to be public knowledge and the kind of thing that won’t ruin your family’s reputation to be involved with, at which point they’d just worry about comfort.

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one of the many top Emily moments is in CoG when Gerry is afraid of Tem and says he doesn't want a dragon and she, having grown up in the aerial corps, is just like "of course you should want a dragon. everyone who is not an idiot wants a dragon!" when that is not in fact the aspiration of literally anyone in England who is not an aviator.

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