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“Unity” and the Broken Boys

BOY Y’ALL BETTER SIT DOWN BECAUSE THIS IS AS LONG AS CAN BE AND I TOOK OFF WORK TOMORROW SO I’VE GOT TIME

This is….one of the best episodes in the show.  Yeah, in all 325 of them, this is hands down one of the best.

First of all, stan Amara for clear skin.

That silent treatment babey, right out the gate with the Angst.  Tbh Dean deserves it.

“Like I said, killing Amara, Jack dying…that’s the only way.”

“The only way.  Our one shot.  Our Last chance.  You ever get tired of saying stuff like that?”

“We don’t have to like it, alright?  But you and me, we gotta get it done.”

Amara is such a welcome energy in this whole episode.  She’s warm and understanding, whip-smart and probably more powerful than Chuck.  I love her.

Sam is a wonderful, understanding, loving dad.  I love him eternally.  He loves Jack so much, he’s trying so desperately to do what’s right for Jack but also what’s right for the world.  Jack made this choice, but he can’t live with it.  How do you support your child when their life is at stake?

“Come on man.  Blindly following orders, lying to Amara, sending her to her death. Does any of this feel right to you??”

“It doesn’t matter how we feel!  You know what?  Stay.  Stay.  Someone has to be the grown up here.”

“Yeah well someone has to keep fighting for Jack!”

“He knows what he signed up for!”

“Last I checked, we don’t give up on family.”

“Jack’s not family.”

Y’all should have heard the noise I made.  What a fucking line.

“I know how you feel about the kid, I care for him too, I do, but he’s not like you.  He’s not like Cas.  He’s just not.”

“I’m- I’m ready.”

You can see the regret, the heartbreak in Dean’s eyes.  You can see how he wants to take those words back the moment he said them, and for Jack to hear them?  It’s unthinkable.

Sam and Cas I’m just so fucking emo dude.

“Sam, you stayed behind to find another way huh?  I woulda done the same.”

AMARA

First of all, LOVE this structure.

Amara and Chuck have such a fascinating dynamic.  Rob and Emily do a great job (as they have all along) by clearly being siblings but…heightened.  You can just tell they both exude power, and the other is the only one they consider an equal.

“You and Dean had that whole weird…thing.”

“That wasn’t you writing?”

“Ugh, not that part.  Gross.”

What I took away from this is what I’ve suspected all along.  They HAVE free will, just not total free will.  Dean and Amara’s connection wasn’t Chuck, there are parts of the story he didn’t write.  Obviously, this comes into play later. 

I also have a hunch that Chuck doesn’t write romance.  I also think that in particular will come into play.

“Balance.  Something we’ve never tried before.  Creation and destruction, light and dark, brother and sister united again, but on behalf of one world, this world.  True balance.  The way it was always meant to be.  But you can’t.  You only care about your pleasure, your story.  Well, I guess that makes you the villain.”

“Villains get all the best lines.”

We see again and again this season, Chuck is irredeemable.  He doesn’t care about the angels, he doesn’t care about the world, he doesn’t care about anything.  He is a petulant toddler who has broken his toys. And when he realizes he’s trapped, he gets angry, he shouts and screams, completely at odds with Amara’s peace.

“You can’t hold me here forever.”

“I can hold you long enough.”

DEAN

Pain is the name of the game in this section homies.  Because not only are we dealing with Dean’s pain, we’re also dealing with Jack’s.  Jack says he understands why Cas and Sam mean more to Dean, but Dean clearly doesn’t, he, once again, wants to say more, but is stopped, still stopped by his fear: his fear of not beating Chuck.

Alright guys, gals, and non-binary pals.  Let’s talk about Adam and Seraphina.

Adam.  The first man.  And Seraphina.  The angel.

“My old lady.  She’s the only one who could put up with me all these years.”

Yeah okay.  Volume at 100 I get it lmao.

But also: Adam wants God dead not because he and Eve were kicked out of the Garden, but because he went after their sons.  The theme of protecting the children strikes again.

“Killing God is your plan?”

“Yeah, Billie’s been giving us a hand but Sera and me, this is our baby.”

This juxtaposed directly with Dean’s own pain at what he has to do to kill Chuck, to gain his free will: the cost of his child.

Adam’s rib.

And who else might get his ribs hurt, only to be likely healed by an angel?

It’s fine, that’s fine.  I’m fine with that.

“Jack, I don’t know how to explain it but, when I found out about Chuck, it’s like I wasn’t alive.  Not really.  You know like my whole life I’ve never been free, but like really free.  But now?  Now me and Sam, we got a shot at living a life, without all this crap on our backs.  And that’s, that’s because of you.  So, I want to say, I need to say…thank you, Jack.  Thank you.”

I’m gonna have to do a separate post about just Dean in this episode, because there is so fucking much to talk about, but there are a couple of things that I think are important:  Dean realizes how wrong he was, to say what he said.  He knows that it’s not true, this is the way he’s always coped with loss, by pushing the person to be lost away, but for Jack to hear it?  He can’t stand for that.

And:

Dean has finally pushed through the barrier.  He won’t be quiet in the face of his doubts anymore.  This is a breakthrough for him, and, of course, there are more to come.

SAM

Sam and Cas, my chaos duo.

The box, the inscription, the door.

Death’s library, filled with dead reapers.

And there it is.  The Empty.

It tells Sam the plan, the plan for Billie to take God’s place.  For everything to go back to the way it’s “supposed to be.”

This has always been the game, since season 13.  This is the longest of long games.

Sam fuckin Winchester, lying his way out of a confrontation with the Empty like the legend that he is.

He comes back with a new purpose: to stop Billie’s plan, and here’s where we get to the heart of the episode and maybe the heart of the season.

“You hear that?  Dean, brought to the edge of doubt.  His sense of duty, his rage winning out in the end.  And poor Sam, always gotta know everything.  Can’t leave well enough alone.  This is my ending, my real ending.”

The gun comes out, pointed at Sam.

Hmm…what did I say during 15x05?  Oh yeah, this.

And:

Dean would never survive killing Sam, but he’s willing to do anything, anything to earn his freedom.  His ending, where one brother kills the other and then kill himself.

Why, you might ask, did Sam not mention that the angels would be sent back to Heaven, why does he not mention Cas?  I’ll tell you why, or rather, Becky will.

Plus, Dean looks back at Cas IMMEDIATELY when Sam says that, when he mentions Eileen, and THAT’S the first time he hesitates.  He can’t lose Cas.  But at the same time, he’s willing to do anything to have his freedom.

“Sam we don’t have a choice, Jack’s about to blow!”

“We always have a choice!”

You know me, just sitting here thinking about choice, the ability to choose, and how that translates to their free will.

And Sam…I don’t think there will ever be characters I love as much as these.

“I don’t care if Billie gets what she wants!  I don’t man, I’d trade it all, I’d trade em all for Chuck.  In a heartbeat!”

“What about me?”

“You’d trade me?”

“Chuck has to die.  He has to!  Otherwise he’ll keep us tap dancing forever, and I can’t live like that man, I can’t live like that, I won’t!”

“I know you feel like that right now, okay? I know you do, but you gotta trust me.  My entire life, you’ve protected me.  From Dad, from Lucifer, from everything.  I didn’t always like it, you know?  But it’s the one thing in the whole world that I could always count on.  It’s the only thing I’ve ever known that was true.  So please, put the gun away.  Just put it away.  We’ll figure it out, Dean, we’ll find another way, you and me.  We always do.”

Okay I feel like this is going to be one of those scenes that I cry watching for years to come.  Because fuck.  After fifteen years they finally admit that not only did Dean protect Sam from Lucifer, but he protected him from John.  John.  On a par with Lucifer.

Dean and Sam have, for so many years, sacrificed themselves for the other.  Dean’s demon deal, Sam and the trials, every season they have fought to see who can die the quickest for the other.  But this?  This is them fighting to stop the violence, to stop from killing the big bad.  This is them growing, in our eyes, in real time.  Sam has always been able to get through to Dean when no one else had a prayer, but for Dean to listen, for Dean to take his words to heart, to stop the hunt for Sam, for their family, that’s how you know they do have free will.

(Btw Chuck’s eye effect when he dusted Amara was sick as fuck but I’m emo for my boys so.)

Chuck knows it’s a loss, he knows that his story has, once again, been thwarted by the boys making their own choices.  And he’s pissed, but in his anger, we get a bomb dropped on us.

“Spare me your contempt Castiel, the self-hating angel of Thursday.  You know what every other version of you did after “gripping him tight and raising him from perdition”?  They did what they were told.  But not you.  Not the one off the line with a crack in his chassis.”

Are you fucking kidding me?

Also, just worth bringing up this one as well:

Every Castiel pulled Dean out of Hell.  Every one told him the same thing.  And yet, immediately, with this Cas and this Dean, something was different.  Because what has everyone seen about Cas, from the moment he met Dean?

And there’s our endgame people.  Laid out on the line.

But we ain’t done yet, fam.

We’ve talked about the handprint, but you know:

So there you have it, our prep into the “monumental” 15x18.  I have spec on that, of course, but I think a novel is long enough for this.

What to take away: Dean’s rage was always Chuck’s plan, they do have free will, their love for each other, for their family, is what will stop Chuck’s control, Death is about to come back with a vengeance, Cas’ deal is at play, and, most importantly, Castiel and Dean Winchester are a blind spot for Chuck, something he has never, not once, controlled.

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clothes make the man

Or at least that’s how the saying goes, right?

So this popped up on my desktop background rotation (I love setting my own desktop themes…) And my brain noticed something. Probably out there already but I’m still gonna write it out and see where it goes.

Here we go!

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Question I think should be asked at Teen Wolf cons:

"Was there ever, in seasons 1 through present, an intentional presentation of Sterek as canon/potential canon?"

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Parrish the thought...

(hahahahahaaaa! yeah sorry. had to.)

But yeah, I wanna think about this idiot for a bit.

Cuz I do that a lot lately and it’s tech’s fault cuz of fic. Anyway.

This is really from a Peter meta that I’ll probably never get around to finishing because it’s like a gazillion pages long and I unfortunately have a life. (I know, right?) But I don’t think you’ll miss anything if I just cut to the chase.

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dylan-obrien

I don’t see this as Stiles being magic, more Stiles being a certain type of person and in particular one with a greater belief and imagination than others. Take into consideration that most normal people think of werewolves and magic as something impossible, unrealistic and childish, whereas Stiles is aware of the fact that werewolves are real. So Deaton would also have to be that kind of person because of his familiarity with werewolves. In other ways the Mountain Ash is magic and needs someone with a greater belief and imagination than others and not someone who is magic.

Q.E.D Stiles is not magic (I feel motherfuckers to be necessary here)

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the entire scene cuts from peter to derek to stiles (on the word love) then to lydia and from lydia to jackson

everything you needed to know about the not Scott ships in one beautiful montage

peter loves Derek in his own twisted way, Derek loves Stiles and realises it in that moment, Stiles (at that point) believes himself in love with Lydia who only ever had eyes for Jackson

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Anonymous asked:

RE: Stiles' name on the list- we've seen evidence of Stiles "dying" literal and metaphorical. Unlike the Deadpool, everyone on the list Lydia wrote is name on was ALREADY dead. Could this mean that he's already dead in a very real way?

that is very possible indeed. Great observation :) Like you point out he’s possibly”died” a bunch of times. Hmmmmm i’m going to mull that one over a bit more, but there might be something there. And sometimes TW does things with double meaning, so perhaps it both means he’s already dead and also something? 

And if anyone’s curious about stiles and death here’s a link to a previous post about that with great insights and also links to other meta on the subject. 

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It could at what I would consider worst mean, Stiles is dead and everything that is going on is his travel through bardo into true death.

I would be dissatisfied,  but that would explain why he seems to be something, because he breaks the rules of his own created reality. Now I’m sad and tired.

I know I nag about this but I’ve always thought stiles would turn out to be some kind of psychopomp, or the opposite of.  

stile is a structure which provides people a passage through or over a fence or boundary via stepsladders, or narrow gaps. Stiles are often built in rural areas along footpaths fencewall or hedge to prevent farm animals moving from one enclosure to another whilst allowing path users still to use the route.

and jeff has said him and lydia are two sides of the same coin, so stiles might not be dead, and he might still be human, but I think his powers somehow intertwine with lydia’s at least a bit.

so basically stiles could possess the power to “die” and enter some kind of…. in-between. climb the fence. this could explain why he keeps being able to communicate with people on the verge of death (jackson OD’d on ketamine, isaac almost dead in the bath) and bring them back when he shouldn’t be able to (cora and derek both magically near death, him physically reviving them through slaps/cpr). this could also be tied in with his mother dying- if he’s able to go beyond the realm of the living, what was it like to watch his mother pass away? is it possible that’s the reason he’s hiding his abilities; it was too traumatising to watch her go?

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Have we scorned the hand that provides? - an exploration of the potential effects of fandom negativity

I’m uncertain how to begin this, but here is a thought perhaps the overall ambiance of fandom stands as a great hindrance to the development of sterek on the show?

Now before the explosion, please do read everything; because this will be an attempt at an exploration of this topic, so I will try to explain everything in as much depth as possible. I will touch on multiple issues, including discourse analysis, narratives and the motivations of business executives, which all deal with one of my very favorite words and concepts (you will notice it comes up often with me) namely context.

The world overflows with context; however we as humans are not exactly evolutionarily equipped to think of everything in context. Always keeping things framed in context is hard. No one needs to feel as though I am being condescending, because I am really not, these are things I have a hard time thinking about myself and I have trained a lot in trying to understand multiple levels of analysis in context.

So here is the thing, there is a sort of isolationist thinking in fandom about fandom, as though fandom exists almost in a sort of impermeable opaque cocoon, a remnant perhaps of the more distant past. The reason I say that this thinking exists is that a common call from within fandom is “we need to be heard!” which makes the assumption that fandom is isolated in some way from the outside world, or that the outside world (meaning the shows and networks) cannot see inside fandom and/or does not notice what happens with fandom. This assumption is wrong, because fandom exists on the internet, and if fans can find the fandom then the networks can find the fandom.

In a Not Another Teen Wolf Podcast eaddymays briefly mentions the power of social media, and how actors and creatives in the industry should be very aware, even taught as a class, exactly how social media works. Bringing up the fact that Social media truly can make or break shows, and that needs to be a real consideration. The way the content-creators interact with the fandom has had to evolve because the way fans interact with each other has evolved.

What I am saying is directed towards fandom and it is basically the same message: social media holds a lot of power and fandom, incredibly enough, does wield power. Now to avoid wasting time arguing that in the past I may have said fandom does not have power, I should clarify that I’m talking about two very different expressions of power in these instances. When I’ve said fandom doesn’t have the power to make the creators change key elements of the plot merely by being loud and disagreeing with some of those plot elements, I truly did mean fandom is not entitled, not empowered, to make the creative team do their bidding. So Fandom does not have what one could call “direct” power.  

The Power fandom wields is altogether different, it’s an indirect sort of power. Proof of the existence of any kind of power fandom has on Teen Wolf (in particular) is that when fandom grumbled about the lack of diversity on the show Teen Wolf took that into consideration and delivered an even more diverse cast. There is actually a lot of meta on this out there and it’s an interesting discussion.

The reason why I term this indirect power is that fandom as such was not coercing, manipulating or directly influencing the creative team (as such, an argument could be made that the creative team did feel influenced by fandom alone) instead we need to think in terms of context and discourse/discussion.

So the context this indirect power rests in is that fandom reacted to the perceived lack of diversity on Teen Wolf, which caused the discussion of the issue concerning the lack of diversity in social media. Social media and the discussion that takes place there is used by various media for the framing of the reporting done about the show. That then gets back to the creative team and the creative team, in that instance, saw the discussion as valid enough to diversify the content.

This social media discourse and framing and the articles created through the media forms a narrative backdrop for anyone to see, and see it they do, though it may not be the actors or the creative team or even the showrunner. However we can be almost completely sure that the executives with the network? They will see it or be made aware of it by people like me, market analysts. That’s our whole job.

So to fandom I say, We Are Seen. And the power wielded is indirect, we receive and put out thoughts and ideas that in turn inform the media who tell the story.

Now that we are all up to speed concerning the power of fandom as a presence in the social media and in turn in the media as well, let me explain why, what I originally called the ambiance of fandom is a hindrance to Sterek.

In fandom we have for a good long while had a very negative discourse on Sterek. This is not including the random ship hate that every ship experiences, no, I’m talking about fandoms reception and discussion of Sterek on the show. We have a lot of complaining and negativity about how we receive very little Sterek from the show’s side, leading fans to call for boycotting the show, to hate on the creatives who bring the show to life, and to generally create a particularly bleak narrative backdrop. It has created an environment where a sense of displeasure and negativity is brought up even when it’s about a possibility of Sterek, about how it’s already too late, turning the narrative towards the framing of any possible Sterek being a marketing ploy in a desperate scramble for ratings and overall that any action of the show being inherently futile in the face of this negativity.

Using the ratings problem as an example: Granted, the ratings seemed to have fallen with season 4, though in context, most shows experience a drop, and Nielsen admit their methodology is getting outdated. The intense negative overlooks the full context of the ratings and creates a negative-spiral instead of offering a clear picture, which shows that the ratings of the show are fine. The network is perfectly happy with Teen Wolf’s performance, given they renewed season 5 for twice the usual number of episodes. Sections of fandom instead focus on the drop and use that to justify their negativity toward the show. Who has the clearer picture there? The networks who renewed based on numbers performance or the fandom who pushes the negative connotation?

There are more complaints, including complaints of bad writing, the very tag #jeff davis is not a gift, Stalia is complained about, the idea being that the show is forcing him into straight relationship to sort of No Homo Stiles, Malia as a character. We even have complaints about how some characters, especially Derek and Stiles, are out of character.

These complaints are all ideas that then get woven into the narrative told by the media, which as I pointed out above is then what gets noticed by the people in charge.

So before we rejoice that, yes, we are seen, we have power, let us just think for a minute what the executives want and the context which the MTV executives rest in.

Network executives want money and profit; the traditional way to get money is through advertising. Now things get a little complicated, because advertising isn’t created equal. Advertising timeslots and their value depend on time of day and the viewing numbers of whatever show is on at that time, and the popularity of the show of course determines the number of viewers. We can debate the validity of this with the current technological advancement and how things could be changing because audiences viewing habits are also changing, but we’re trapped in the current world situation and that means: Networks want popular shows, and popular shows have positive narratives in the media.

So we know the motivations of MTV: make money and keep a positive image.

Which gives us a context for their shows and that includes Teen Wolf. So far so good. The thing is MTV is doing fairly well, with diversity and such as well, they even had a very good rating from GLAAD on the inclusion of LGBT+ characters on their shows, and that’s just it, they have Faking It which has all the sexual orientation diversity they could ask for and it’s really positively received.

I think you can see where this is going, what the context is telling us is that MTV is fairly well covered without having to include any developments of Sterek or a bisexual main character on another show. They already have that checked off their diversity list through other shows on their network.

Considering the negative narrative and the default view that doing anything in regards to Sterek would be negative also means they have zero interest in rocking the boat with allowing a controversial couple/topic to be brought up in a show that’s ok as is within the category it is assigned by the network. There’s no reason, no financial incentive, to provoke more negativity by allowing Sterek to have scenes like Scallison had or like Dethan had, because those kinds of overt, direct, storylines will create media buzz, and that media buzz will be reflective of, in part, what buzz the fandom generates.

Now that I have made all of us cry in despair and hopelessness that Sterek could ever come about, I will say I truly don’t think hope is lost. I don’t think the creatives of the show have discarded the possibility or the desire to perhaps bring this about, see the wonderful metas about Sterek and how alive and well the possibility is. If they wanted to kill it and never let it happen, it would have been addressed in the story already. Instead they let it idle.

However there needs to be a change in the narrative. Taking facts and bringing them into the narrative like this comes in roughly 4 structures as a convention; Romance, Tragedy, Satire and Comedy.

Teen Wolf and Sterek saw at first the romance: the romance narrative celebrates the triumph of the good after a series of trials and tribulations, in this case the very openness about the possibility of a non-stereotypical homosexual romance in a genre show like Teen Wolf. Romances are propelled forward by conflicting forces and ultimately a state of peace and harmony is reached. That was the narrative for Sterek and Teen Wolf before the deep slump in to negativity, Sterek was supposed to triumph over the societal pressures against it.

The narrative on Sterek and Teen Wolf evolved and moved into Tragedy: tragedies are stories of potential progress, lost. The thrust of these narratives is the idea of irreconcilable differences and the failure to find harmony when values collide. We celebrate the heroism of the struggle which ends in failure. This is Sterek right now, seen as a struggle against the values and the tyranny of society and the creatives who cave to these pressures.

Thing is, this is history and Teen Wolf is not over. Which also means we can still be seen and we can still turn this narrative away from one of tragedy, which in turn invites the inevitable tragedy, because MTV does not see anything positive in opening itself up to a negative reception of something which should be celebrated. We have the chance to be heard in a positive direction again, we just have to, as a fandom, be positive to create that environment again.

The discourse we should try to generate should be over all positive, hopeful and open to celebrating Sterek for all that it is worth and all it could mean. We created the current narrative backdrop of negativity toward Sterek. Sterek has generated death threats and hateful things being said to fans and actors and creative team alike. We can’t change that those things happened, we can’t change the feeling of disappointment fans have because of the way the show has gone. It’s in the past. That means, though, that we have the power to shift away from that, too.

We can change the narrative backdrop and make sure that everyone can see just how much positive celebration could be generated with the inclusion of Sterek on the show.

This necessitates that we all work together to build that atmosphere. We should turn away from “Give us Sterek we demand it, we feel entitled to it because you seemed to promise it to us.” That outlook is focusing on the negative.

Instead we should talk about the positive power the ship could wield in canon, how it would matter so much for the LGBT+ community, to have a pairing like this become real on a genre show, where we have the least representation, how the break with stereotypes is a huge positive, how showing it as an unremarkable event within the show could be positive for the whole of society. We can discuss how there is still a real possibility for the pairing in canon, how many significant moments the two have had, how the evolution of their relationship is brilliant, how every time they are in a scene together there is a significance to them.

And we can look at how those significant discussion-changes could reflect positively on the network for bringing them about, for being so forward thinking as to allow for the voices not currently reflected in media to suddenly have a network that doesn’t alienate them as being anything different than the rest of their market-audience.

Because the idea behind diversity is equality, no one is more or less important than anyone else. And a network that could incorporate a bi-sexual character - or multiple characters - in a genre TV show where the point in the story is not the fact that he’s bi, where it’s not a story ABOUT someone’s sexuality, means that the sexuality of one person is equal to the sexuality of another. That would be a unique and profitable step forward in the discussion of diversity in media, and MTV needs to know that they could be at the head of that by allowing Teen Wolf to include a storyline like Sterek for a main character instead of side-characters like other media does.

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The rise and fall of the Hale alpha (and what does this have to do with true alpha?)

  • By the end of season 1, Derek takes the alpha from Peter and Scott is left an omega.
  • In season 2 Derek starts to build up his pack - he changes four teenagers. 
  • His first beta (Jackson) rejects him as alpha almost immediately. 
  • As the season progresses, he realizes that Scott is alpha of his own (human) pack (Allison and Stiles).
  • Derek is overwhelmed by wolfsbane and stabbed by Victoria and left in somewhat of a weakened state as he saves Scott
  • Victoria turns, but chooses death over becoming a werewolf - ultimate rejection of her alpha (Derek who bit her)
  • Scott joins Derek’s pack and accepts him as alpha (Derek has no idea this is a trick)
  • Derek is effectively overpowered by Lydia using wolfsbane
  • Peter uses Derek’s alpha powers to bring himself back go life, leaving Derek still an alpha but weak
  • Deaton reminds Derek he is an incompetent alpha and tells him to trust Scott
  • Boyd and Erica abandon him, rejecting him as their alpha.
  • Issac seeks out Scott and Scott teaches Isaac how to take pain from a sick dog (something he was taught by Deaton)
  • Derek is physically assaulted by the Kanima and Scott takes advantage of his weakened state to overpower Derek.
  • Derek is forced to bite Gerard, who physically rejects the bite (and dare i say rejects Derek as alpha)
  • Scott betrays Derek and rejects him wholeheartedly as alpha (a plan concocted with Deaton’s help)
  • Derek ‘kills’ his first beta (Jackson) but Jackson survives. 
  • Jackson rejects Derek again as and leaves to London.
  • At the end of s2, Derek is down five betas (Erica, Boyd, Scott, Jackson and Victoria) and is left only with Isaac
  • At the start of s3 Derek is now up two betas (Isaac and Boyd).  He has Cora and Peter but they are more family and less pack betas and it’s debatable if either of them look to Derek as their alpha.
  • Erica is dead and Boyd keeps to himself
  • The alpha pack tells Derek he must kill one of his beta’s (or family)
  • To save Isaac he chases him away via threats - Isaac (once again) looks to Scott
  • About mid-point of the season, Boyd and Isaac declare themselves for Derek and look to him as their alpha.  End result is that Derek is used to murder Boyd.  He shows no signs of having gained extra powers from that death.
  • At roughly the same time, Scott shows the first signs of ‘True Alpha’ with his eyes flashing red as he tries to save Deaton
  • Derek is back to having one Beta (Isaac) who leaves him (For Scott) when Derek won’t leave Cora
  • At the encouragement of Peter, Derek sacrifices his Alpha powers to save Cora.
  • At the same time Deaton assists Stiles, Allison and Scott to sacrifice themselves

Loose thoughts after laying events out like this:

  • At almost every turn, Deaton has been an important figure leading both Scott and Derek to where he needed them to be.
  • The power-up that Derek should have received after killing Boyd had to end up somewhere - I think it went to Scott
  • Derek sacrificed his alpha to save Cora, but I don’t think the power got used up. I think it ended up inside Scott during the drowning ritual.
  • I think True Alpha might just mean someone that can get an alpha’s power when that Alpha isn’t able to keep it - if you look, Derek’s been on shaky ground from the beginning, with Scott consistently rejecting him, trying to force his beta’s from him, tricking him, physically over powering him, rejecting him again.  I think this behavior from Scott made it so that he was the most logical choice for the Alpha power to go to after Derek.  Alpha, Beta, Omega - they can cycle through and we know an alpha can go back to Beta or Omega so logic stands that a beta or omega can become an alpha.  So what happens when an alpha doesn’t die?  His powers go to the next runner up - in this case Scott.  Thanks to Deaton’s help, he’s been the likeliest candidate since season 2 and Deaton’s done everything he can to thwart Peter’s quest for power (and Gerards too).
  • I think at the end of the day, Deaton has been protecting the Hale alpha powers - keeping them safe from those who would abuse them.
  • Deaton knew that Peter has always influenced Derek and I can imagine that he knew Derek’s anchor was anger.  This would be why he thought Derek was a terrible choice for Alpha - so he put plans into place to protect the Hale alpha powers.
  • Ironically enough, everything Scott has done as part of his plan to reject Derek as alpha (because he loathed the idea of being beholden to anyone) is what has actually made him the best next choice for Hale alpha.
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Teen Wolf S3b - High level mapdown (Part 2)

This is the continuation of info and analysis of Stiles’s possession in Season 3B. You can refer to Part 1 here.

Please note that this post only contains episodes 3x19 and 3x20. I wanted to add all the other 4 episode to this as well but this turned out to be a massive post since there was tons of info in the Eichen House episode.

I will add another post covering the rest of the 4 episodes after this. So without further ado, here’s the info:

3x19: Letharia Vulpina:

Day 9 night (cont.):

  • Deaton gets Letharia Vulpina from the Yakuza family. (This place could be in California or in Japan. Its uncear as to why Deaton would be travelling all the way to Japan. We learnt later that Chris was the one who gave Deaton the info on the wolf with the Yakuza).

“There’s a fox hiding inside a teenage boy. I’m going to poison it.”

  • Stiles’s jeep is moved from the hospital. We know that Stiles went missing.
  • Electrical wiring at the hospital is cut and it causes chaos. Isaac is injured. Few people die. And Kira subdues the chaos by taking in the current.

  Day 10:

  • Sheriff gets an SMS from Stiles to not to look for him. Bomb is sent to the Sheriff’s station packaged as printer inks etc.
  • Kira tells Scott that for a nogitsune to react this bad, someone must have offended it very badly.
  • Stiles uses an ultrasonic emitter in the school basement that lures Scott, Ethan and Aiden. He tells them its him and shows them that he found blueprints of the hospital and the running track where Mr. Tate had installed coyote trappers. Stiles has a map of the steel traps. (Not sure how he got it or how he knew where they were installed.)
  • Stiles plans for Derek and Chris to meet by throwing in a emitter into Derek’s loft and placing in the money from silverfinger into his locker. (Why wasnt Derek able to smell Stiles? Why did he fall for the trap?) Derek and Chris get arrested as Agent McCall tells them that silverfinger is dead and finds the money in the locker.
  • Noshiko opens the book where she hid her tails (knifes). Tells Mr. Yukimura that she sacrificed 5 so far and 3 are gone (from the Onis encounter with Stiles in the hospital) and snaps 2 more to create 2 Oni. These one will be more powerful since they are made from the older tails. Four onis currently. Two more tails are left
  • Coach gets shot and Scott drains the pain from him. Scott also drains the pain from Isaac in the hospital. They notice that there was gift wrapping paper and tools in Stiles’s bag and notify the school of a possible bomb. Turns out its a red herring.
  • The bomb goes off in the Sheriff’s station instead when the Sheriff is actually away at school. (The sheriff was pulled to safety by planting a fake bomb at school. But Derek and Chris were pulled to the station where the bomb was gonna go off. Why did Stiles want them attacked?)

Day 10 night:

  • Scot drains the pain from a deputy.
  • Scott, Stiles and Kira go to Deaton’s clinic to escape the Oni where Scott gets stabbed. (No black goo came out of Scott. However when Aiden gets stabbed by a nogi, he leaked the black goo and died of poison).
  • Nogi! Stiles feeds off all the pain and chaos that Scott experienced.

“You really have to learn not to trust a fox. Coz they’re tricksters. They’ll fool you. They’ll fool everyone!”

  • Deaton poisons Stiles with Letharia Vulpina.

3x20: Echo House:

Day 10 night (cont.):

  • Stiles gets admitted into the Eichen House. Sheriff hears echos of doors closing etc. and wanted Stiles out but Stiles is adamant.
  • Stiles sees Malia getting out of a room and when she sees him, she goes back inside. Immediately, he finds someone trying to kill themselves by hanging. The person committing suicide keeps repeating riddles to himself. “I’m part of the bird that’s not in the sky” “I can swim in the ocean yet still remain dry” (The answer to the riddle is Shadow again.)
  • Chris talks to Deaton, Allison and Scott. Deaton says there are two problems. 1. The poison will wear off in a matter of days. “Eichen house has an unusual history. It might not be that safe for the Oni there as well.” (Deaton knows whats up with Eichen House. Explains how he knows about the supernatural jail in there shown in season 4). 2. The Shugendo scroll from the Yakuza boss was not found.
  • Stiles meets his roommate Oliver who is tied down by the 5 point restraint system. He says that he swallowed a bug that is stuck in his throat. “This is Echo House. Everything echoes eventually.”

Day 11:

  • Stiles finds Meredith talking into a phone that is not working. “I think you’re wrong. I really think I should tell them. They’re going to want to know the story. The whole story. I really think they should know. Yes, I do. One of them is standing right behind me.” (We learn later that Meredith is able to talk to Banshees. She communicated with Lydia through Stiles’s phone in a later episode. This means that she is probably talking to a banshee from Eichen house.)
  • When Stiles turns back, he sees Malia. (Whether Meredith was talking about Malia is unknown).
  • Malia punches Stiles when he calls her. Stiles sees the basement of the Eichen house from his level and realizes he hallucinated about that place. Morrell finds him and he tells her that he’s been down there before.
  • Derek and Chris talk about Stiles. Derek’s face twitches like he is afraid or trying not to cry when he asks Chris if he feels remorse putting Stiles down (Cue sterek feels)
  • Morrell has a session about Guilt. Malia says that guilt came with a visceral reaction. It made her feel sick to the stomach. Stiles says it makes him feel nervous, a sense of urgency.
  • Stiles sees the bandages man around him and unconsciously puts his hand to the lightning strike figure on his shoulder, which Morrell sees.
  • She takes him to a different room and explains that its a Lichtenberg figure, that is generally found on lightening strike victims. “As soon as the mark fades, his group on you will return.” She gives him anti-sleep medicines. If the gang doesn’t figure out a solution by the time the mark fades, she’ll find him, and kill him (Maintain the balance). “Stay Awake”
  • Stiles finds a door to the basement which is locked. Oliver says no one has a key to the door except Brunski. They can trick him to get the keys.
  • Stiles finds Malia showering in the men’s room where he takes the medicine. She is always cold coz there’s no fur coat on her anymore. Stiles makes a deal with her to help her change in exchange for keys from Brunski.
  • Scott, Lydia, Ethan, Aiden and Kira plan to rob the armoured car to steal the Shugendo scroll.
  • Stiles, Malia and Oliver play a trick to get the keys off Brunski. Oliver shouts that Malia is threatening him to put a hole in his head (Reference to Trepenation. A sign that Malia knows about it/ has been to the basement of the eichen house where there are documents and signs of trepenation)
  • None of the keys open the door to the basement. Brunski catches him and says that nobody has a key to that room. They throw Stiles into a quiet room and inject him with a sedative.
  • Stiles hallucinates again
  • He opens his eyes and realizes he’s inside a locker. “Let me out!”
  • The bandages man is outside the locker. “Let me in!”
  • Day 11 night:
  • Malia finds him in the silent room and tells him she knows a way to the “basement through the closed unit where they keep the psychos” (Is this a shoutout to the supernatural jail in season 4?)
  • The gang attack silver finger’s werewolf and steal the shugendo scroll and bring it back to Deaton.
  • Stiles and Malia find the place where Rhys’s body was hidden with the Kanji symbol carved on the wall. He tells her it means “self”. They find documents about things that happened in the basement. “Electroshocks, Ice baths, Trepanation” Stiles finds that the lightning mark on his back has disappeared. And they make out.
  • Malia brings him back to the Rhys’s body buried area and they break open it. She takes out a picture from the body that has Noshiko and Rhys in 1943.
  • Oliver attacks them and sedates Malia. He brings a trepanation device and says “I’m gonna let the evil spirits out”. He restraints Stiles and coughs out a fly. At which point, the bandages man is seen and blackmails Stiles to let him in if he doesn’t want Oliver to drill a hole into Malia’s head. (I still need to understand what possessed Oliver. He coughed up the fly and was still under the influence of bandages man.)
  • Stiles finally lets him in and nogi!Stiles hits Oliver.
  • Deaton tells Scott that the scroll translates into “One method of expelling a nogitsune is to change the body of the host.”  Scott tells him that they can turn Stiles into a werewolf.

Day 12:

  • Morrell tells Malia that she needs to find Scott McCall and where she can find him. (Clear sign that both of them were in cahoots/ knew each other through the episode)

(to be continued in part 3…)

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You've probably seen this theory/meta somewhere before but I notice how (some) stalia shippers use the fact that Stiles woke up in de-void from Malia's name. But wasn't that the nogitsune that woke up from Malia's name?

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It wasn’t as much malia’s name, as it was Stiles trying to protect the person he just spend 5 minutes with, because Stiles has a minor (major) hero complex and wants to save people, anyone. Nogi needed a ‘yes’ he needed acceptance to really get in, while Void was in there already. Nogi played Void, It was Nogi leaving clues, Nogi who played Go with Void (stiles), Nogi played Void. Malia’s name had nothing to do with it. at least not in the metas I’ve read. 

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You are right, I don’t think I’ve seen this answered in meta before. Though, I believe the question itself has been asked.

I actually do think that the name is important. They drew our attention to that scene for a reason, and I don’t think it was necessarily Stiles’ reaction. I think it is tired to Void.

Kinda the same deal as why Valek is so interested in Peter in season 4. Learning that Malia was possibly his daughter could be important.

Hey metas, do you guys have any input or a link to a previously answered meta?

Thanks!

Malia’s name does seem to carry some kind of importance. We can’t deny that Nogi threw up real Stiles the moment Lydia said her name to Peter but more than that when Lydia and Aiden were driving around and Aiden asked about Malia, he said her name wrong and Lydia corrected him. That is obviously meant to draw our attention to the name and the way it’s pronounced which means there’s something there. Especially since no other character has had such a scene about their name.

Very true! Thank you, Flower!

Do you remember when Aiden said the name, how did he pronounce it? Did he stress the first ‘A’, as in “Mal-ia”?

That is actually how I accidentally continued to pronounce her name to myself because of the prefix “Mal” and what that means.

If he did pronounce it that way, is the clue that we should pay attention to the meaning of the prefix, or is the clue in how Lydia responds: correcting the pronunciation and suggesting we realign our interpretation of her name?

Unfortunately, I don’t really remember how he said it. I’ll need to rewatch the scene again, which I’ll be able to do later tonight I hope. But if someone can and wants to check it out in the meantime, feel free to comment. :)

However, I remembered a fantastic post I read a while back, I think it was at the beginning of s04 about Malia’s name and possible meanings, which in light of the whole season I think has some intersting matches. It’s here for anyone who wants to read it (if you haven’t already).

He did pronounce it with emphasis on the Mal part. I just looked it up in “De-Void” to be positive.

Oh, interesting! So mal=bad is not where the emphasis should be is what the show tells is. Which fits rather beautifully with my theory that she’s a red-herring for someone else or at least that she hasn’t been playing them from the start, even if she has a dark arc as well or turns against the gang in s05 due to other people’s manipulations *coughPeter and maybe Valackcough*

I honestly think she’s just a red herring. No matter my previous assumptions of not trusting her - which I don’t fully - I don’t see her out to get the characters. I think Jeff knew how much of a stir she would cause in fandom pairing her with Stiles, so we all immediately assumed or wanted her to be bad. (I know I did!) She could be being manipulated by Valack or someone else, there is plenty of evidence pointing in that direction, but either way she’s still just a pawn.

I agree. I have said for a while that while both she and Breaden do have their suspicious moments and it’s completely valid to question them based on that (being suspicious and questioning of any and all characters is more or less the name of the game in BH), the overly violent reaction they recieved does not match their level of shadiness at all (they are no more shady than Stiles and Derek have been at different points in the show) and I feel most of it comes from a not very good place of hating them for hooking up with Sterek and/or being women.

So I can see Jeff using our over-suspicion of Malia - and really the whole season we’ve critisized probably every single thing she’s said or done - to slip the real villian past us.

I swear if the bad guy turns out to be Peter again (I know he’s bad, but the whole he’s the benefactor was just a little anti climax for me) then I will face palm so hard I would walk around with a permanent red mark. 

I under stand the whole setting fire to the curtain while sneaking something through the smoke ( malia being the distracting curtain). I hate her. I hate her character and the acting, but now when its all died down a little, I can theories much better, even though she always anyway is the pawn/baddie in my theories.  I could totally see her being a (disposable) pawn in a bigger game (every pawn is disposable), especially when she now has ties to both Peter and Stiles and while those two try and use her as their pawn, someone else can move them all around. You know? -I’m not making sense am I?

Well, Peter wasn’t the benefactor - that was Meredith. She just used Peter’s idea. He didn’t really have anything more to do with it than simply thinking about it without knowing someone was listening in on his thoughts. But that’s another discussion, sorry for getting carried away a little bit XD

It does make sense - I think it’s very possible that just as we have been entirely focused on Malia and what she could be up to, so have the characters. As a matter of fact, Stiles was doing that the whole season. And Peter has been pretty intent on finding his kid as well and he thought for a time it was Malia (which I think he dismissed her when they first met, the comment about her eyes always felt like a test to me and I believe she didn’t pass it).

No, but a lot of the fans thinks of Peter being indirectly the benefactor, because it was ‘his money, his assassins and his plan’ without him actually doing any of it. That is why I mentioned him being an anti climax, I know it was meredith. - anyway XD

I also think he dismissed her, but that doesn’t mean he takes her off the board of her bing a pawn. He can use her. He can use her thinking he’s her farther, he can use everything. Peter is selective in his truth and lies, he manipulates them so it fits his agenda. 

Oh, no, I don’t think he wouldn’t use her for his goals if she wasn’t his kid - he definitely used her desire to find her real mother to get her to try and kill Scott at the very least. I think it’s rather the opposite - knowing/thinking she’s not his real child would probably make it even easier for him to use her (though we’ve seen he *will* use whoever he has to make his plans work, family or not).

Yeah, I don’t think Malia is Peter’s daughter.  I think he thought so until he asked about the eyes and that made him realize she wasn’t his.  However, with Peter being Peter he decided to use that to his advantage, especially with learning the Desert Wolf is her mother.

Now there is quite a bit of emphasis on the Desert Wolf and we have Braeden who is obsessed with her, Malia who wants to find her because it’s her mother, and I think Peter is also trying to find her for himself even knowing Malia isn’t his.  So this is making me think the Desert Wolf may have some important information for us because I don’t think she’s going to be a bad guy at all, just an assassin, and probably a retired one at that as I do think it’s possible that she’s also Liam’s mom and Liam is actually Peter’s kid.  But yeah, I think she’ll lead us to something important.

As for Malia, I do think now that she’s been a red-herring from the beginning and that Jeff Davis has been doing some smoke and mirror tricks with her.  Now the question is who are we supposed to be actually looking at?  My bet is Kira and I think she’ll have a hand in Scott’s dark arc in S5.

Yep, I think so too. Interesting thing I found in s04 was that we never saw Liam’s mother. We met his father and they mentioned her and Liam mentiones both his parents but not a hair of mommy dearest. And it’s been one of my slightly cracky theories that she is actually DW and she’s been right under everyone’s noses the whole time and while everything’s been going down in BH, she’s been like “I gotta get up at 7 to go to work and then clean my son’s room before he gets back from school because he’ll never do it himself; I dont have time to go around killing people” Tbh that would make my day. XD

I wondered where his mother was too, just like were the fuck mr. tate went, but thats another convocation.  What about Parrish? I mean, we have so far only gotten one shot of him being remotely dark and that was when he ass naked, covered in filth and sod beat up the cop who set him on fire - he has so far been pained good and non suspicious, just like Kira. // also might be Issac’s long lost bro? crack theory//

OOh, actually that was my original theory :D

I thought ok, so we have these two relatively new characters who have been painted as suspicious enough for us to question their loyalty and motivations. That’s Breaden and Malia. And then we have these other two characters also recently-introduced who have been presented as good and trust-worthy and nothing openly suspicious about them - Kira and Parrish. What are the odds of that? ;) So my original idea, which I still think could be true, was that Braeden and Malia were the red-herrings for Kira and Parrish.

I’m not sure if s04 made me more or less suspicious of Parrish. On one hand, so far he’s done nothing but help and support our heros, he even got the Stiles seal of approval, Lydia likes him too, he seemed genuinely in the dark about the deadpool and his supernatural abilities and so on. But on the other hand, I can’t help but feel like we’re being lulled into a false sense of security here. Like the calm before the storm (though I don’t have anything to back it up except a gut feeling). After all I was pretty sure Kate was dead and Peter was just an unresponsive guy in a wheelchair and look how that turned out. XD

That was because that was what the show wanted you to think. But we have all grown now, we’re all a bit suspicious of everything, because the show has eluted us.  They wanted you to think kate was dead and peter was just a man in a wheelchair, now they want us to think Kira is of pure light and Parrish is ignorant of the supernatural. Bread crums are what we’re looking for, there are always some. But maybe its a double play, because what if they expect us to expect this, so they do a whole other thing? Its driving me crazy. 

We also all know Stiles has a nose for knowing when people are bad, which means if he’s approved Parrish and Kira we shouldn’t expect them to be bad - but what if something has screwed up him inner compass, like Void and Nogi? So now its all just a gray area?  -Parrihs might be in the dark, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t turn out to be bad. I mean, yes I also believe he’s fully ignorant, but I’m also shifty on it? 

I’m properly putting to much into this. 

Ooops, my thoughts got criss-crossed at the end there. XD I meant exactly what you’re saying - that it looks like Parrish is a good guy in the same way it looked like Kate was dead and Peter was stuck in a wheelchair. And then BAM, that wasn’t true. So I think the same thing could happen with Parrish.

I have also considered the possibility of Stiles being wrong this one time. Throughout s04 I think we can agree he wasn’t at his a-game - he focused everything on trying to help Malia and please his dad and keep Peter from what he thought he wanted and I think he missed the big picture in his state of guilt and desire to make up for the actions Void used his body for (I mean Malia was a bigger help to solving the benefactor mystery than he was). Which after the possession it’s understandable, of course, and another way the traumatic expirience affected him. So I don’t think it’s stretch to assume that if there is something up with Parrish, Stiles might have missed it (for now).

Yes exactly thank you!  You just got me excited for whats to come, I might actually re-watch this season over again.

I completely agree that Malia is a red herring, which is what I was getting at by how Lydia re-pronounces her name.

I still believe Malia is important to either Nogi or Void, possibly both. She is their pawn. When Stiles is first taken by Nogi, he sleep walks into Malia’s coyote den. Why there?

I also found it interesting that Sheriff compared the story of Malia transforming into a coyote and murdering her family to a Chinese folktale. I wonder if there is a Chinese tale along those lines?

Stiles: Think about it, Dad, all right. They’re driving, Malia starts to change, she goes out of control, the mom crashes and everybody dies
Scott: Except for Malia.
Stiles: She blames herself, all right, goes off running into the woods and eventually becomes trapped inside the body of a coyote.
Sheriff: That makes sense.
(SIGHS)
Sheriff: In a Chinese folktale.

………

Now, my brain is kind of foggy right now, but a theory just came to me, (it’s rough, so bare with me):

The way Void talks about the Trickster spirits (fox, coyote, and raven) is like he intends to use them to accomplish his goals, to create chaos, strife, and pain.

But, what if it also takes the Trickster spirits to defeat Void. As Nogi (Noshiko) did, temporarily, in Devine Move.

So, what we are seeing is Malia being cast suspiciously as one of Void’s pawns. But, in the end, she’s a bait and switch.

Malia becomes Nogi’s pawn instead, and helps trick and take down Void. In this way, Malia stays true to her coyote and Trickster nature (perhaps unwittingly even), but she is working with/for the pack. She isn’t evil at all.

Speaking of red herrings, I dug up this meta by Cupid who I believe originally theorized that Kira might be possessed by Tezcatlipoca and ready to begin her dark arc in s5.

Probably my favorite meta hint of anything on the show thus far, is the literal red herring hanging in the background of Sheriff Stilinski’s office.

That’s the exact meta that planted the idea about Kira in my head that I talked about in my Aztec myth meta. It really makes perfect sense.

The more I think about it, the more I honestly can’t see Malia deliberately playing everyone from the start. At least of her own free will. But I can see her being manipulated into doing it by someone she trusts/loves.

I keep going back to the claw marks on the car that Scott and Stiles found. Because Malia’s story works almost perfectly if not for those marks - little Malia starts transforming, mother panics and crashes the car, Malia survives and runs off into the woods, the humans die in the car. Ok, I can buy that. But then we have *huge* claw marks (bigger than Scott’s hand) on the *outside of the car* that there is no way a 9-year-old girl could do, even shifted and something starts smelling fishy and it’s not the coyote. My theory is that someone found the car that night after it crashed or maybe they caused the crash by attacking the car hence the marks and they took Malia with them, leaving the rest of her family to die. This person then raises Malia as their own, teaches her how to control her powers, how to use them (that’s why she’s so convinient with it - one moment she’s all I can be pretty strong when I want to be and then she’s no, I can’t track someone down by scent according to whatever plan she’s following) and then for whatever their reason is sends her into BH to get close to the gang.

I think that would explain everything about her behaviour/actions - like why the coyote started bothering Mr Tate only recently; why the Hales didn’t know there was a were-creature in the Preserve and why at times she seems maybe a little too adapted to human society for the short period of time she’s been part of it again, which are the three things that don’t actually make sense in her backstory.

I know that metamewrong did an entire 100 suspicious things about Malia meta that I’ve had flagged for a while but haven’t read through yet.  I need to do that.

See, when the season was being aired, I loved just about every amazing/crazy theory that came out about Malia, because honestly, I find the motivation and back-story of her character much more interesting than her actual role/actions in the show at the moment.  

My favorite theory at the time was sterekmeta's Changeling theory.  Because, by this idea, Malia may not even understand what she is, why she is there, or what she is doing - such as sucking energy from Stiles.  Also, she would be completely convinced that she is the real Malia (or a replacement for Liam).  But, honestly, I have little faith that the show will take her in this direction. Malia is likely a coyote and nothing more. (Which is disappointing to me, because Changelings are really freaking cool and the concept kinda fits perfectly with her role, and I just love faeries okay?)  Though, even if she isn’t a changeling, it’s still possible that her and Liam are half-siblings that share the same mother. 

However, now that the series is complete, I’m far less convinced that Malia is malicious. I actually do believe that Malia spent that last 8 years raised as a full coyote, not a human.  I also think it’s probable that Malia knows who made those claw marks on the Tate vehicle, but I don’t think she is working with whomever it is against the pack (yet).  At least not wittingly, I do think she is susceptible to manipulation.  Right now, I think Malia is working for herself. She wants to get something out of this, and she’s just smart enough to manipulate others into getting it.  This isn’t a grand scheme against the pack, it’s just a series of smaller (usually one-on-one) manipulations to protect herself and seek out what she wants by using the pack.  

(If she is working with someone though, they want her in with Stiles. Stiles is important to them as he has been her target from the get go.)

Cupid wrote a meta about Malia called "Feral Child".  And honestly, I think she is pretty spot on.  Coyotes are smart creatures that learn and adapt fast through mimicking.  Honestly, that is something I can really see Jeff Davis trying to convey in his creation of her.  He’s always been pretty spot on with other creatures and mythology - so why not this time?

He didn’t spend any time explaining that facet of her, but really, when has he ever spelled anything out so directly?  I think there are certain moments throughout the season that allude to Malia trying to “blend in” - as she tells Kira to do when they are dancing in the first episode of season 4. 

The most suspicious things that remain about Malia, to me, are that I 1000% do not believe she is Peter Hale’s daughter, her character is ALWAYS convenient - drawing others to revelations, and she is by nature a trickster.

I expect certain reveals about Malia to come in season 5: we will either see her unveiled as a trickster already, or we will watch her become one (I’m very excited for either!).  But in the end, I think she is going to side with pack rather than against them.  She (and Stiles) will probably be essential in taking down Valack/Void.

"we will either see her unveiled as a trickster already, or we will watch her become one (I’m very excited for either!)" - that is exactly what I think will happen. I think she is really vulnerable right now and as we saw with Peter, it wouldn’t take much to have someone manipulate her into doing what they wanted (if she isn’t someone’s pawn already). Also that fits with charcaters being victims first before becoming villians and/or being manipulated into doing bad deeds. I am less sure she will side with the pack because her strongest connection to them is Stiles and once that bond breaks off (as I suspect their romantic relationship will end for good in s05 though I do hope they will remain friends), there really isn’t anything much keeping her anchored to human society. The only reason she stayed in the first place and didnt run off into the woods was cause she got attached to Stiles. Although I would also love if she helps take down the big bad (*cough and then runs off into the sunset with Kira cough* ;P)

Yep, I’ve seen cupid’s meta and I agree. Also there’s another meta here that talks about it from the point of view of fandom’s expectations vs canon and the point they make about fandom wanting child-Malia but getting non-human-Malia I think is pretty spot on.

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I have a question. I know what the chessboard's set up is confusing and while you have noted that Stiles isn't on the board, neither is Lydia. Is it weird to think it's actually Nogitsune!Stiles and Lydia playing this game since both of them are missing from the game?

It’s not weird at all, Anon! It’s an idea that popped into your head while watching the scene, which is how I get 98% of all my ideas about everything, and it was significant enough that you decided to pursue about it. I can’t tell you how many times I think of something and then decide the effort isn’t worth it.

Its not something that can be ruled out, but I don’t think that just because Lydia and Stiles are both missing from the board, that both of them can be counted on to be the players. I do think Stiles, or some version of him (nogitsune, normal, or unknown) is at least one of the players. 

However, there is that little bit where the chess pieces move in the same scene, which I don’t think was accidental because that is just something too big to completely miss notice during an edit. So the switched chess pieces while Derek, the Sheriff, and whoever else was in that scene with the two of them. I know there were three of them because three is the magic number, and blah blah. 

So this is how the chessboard looks when the trio of hot people walk into Stiles’ room. 

And this is how it looks later. Derek’s piece has switched places with the queen and a horse has moved in between Ethan and Aiden instead of in front of both pieces.  

What I wanted to point out with the changing of the pieces, is that if it was deliberate, which is a theory I’m sticking to until there’s proof otherwise, is that it could mean that there is a mental game going on where the pieces on this chessboard are physical representations of the pieces in whatever plane the actual game is being played in. Does that make sense? 

So, I think that whoever Stiles is playing against, it’s probably someone who has the means for basically a physic battle. So it could have been either Stiles playing against the Nogitsune himself, just like in the Go game in Stiles’ head, or the Nogitsune!Stiles playing against another creature. Which I think might be Valack now that he’s made his presence known to the viewers (aka us). 

But getting back to point in why I don’t think it’s Stiles vs Lydia (although that would be awesome if the two of them had weekly chess matches to see who’s smarter). One, there wouldn’t be much of a point for their to be a game that strategizing war for allies. It could be a hint that Stiles and Lydia are actually evil masterminds wanting to take over the Beacon Hills supernatural population by using them as their puppets and the chess game is a way for them to plan it out. (Can this happen, please?) 

Secondly, since I’m sticking to my mental game theory (curse those moving pieces), Lydia hasn’t shown any abilities where she’s able to do more than just hear the voices of the dead. So, from what cannon states, she couldn’t play the game unless it’s physically right in front of her. 

Thirdly, there are other people missing from the board as well who could be questioned for being the other player. 

And this just popped into my head, so feel free to answer if you think it works out or no. Do you think all the people who are written out on Stiles’ chessboard are those people who pose some sort of danger to Stiles? Maybe the reason Lydia isn’t on the board is because Stiles knows that he’s safe with her, banshee powers or no. 

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Trixter spirets - raven

Here’s a thought, you are welcome to shoot it down.  'They are always hungry.' what if the so called raven Void talked about was the danish mythology valravn.  A Valravn is a raven who eats the dead (mostly a king or chief) and the raven who eats the heart of a dead person, gains a human knowledge, can preform great malicious acts, could lead people astray and had superhuman powers.  OR They were peaceless souls in search of redemption and flies at night (never day). It can only free itself from the animal form by consuming a human childs blood.  In a folk song/legend  it refuses treasures as an offer, but then a maiden promises her first born child to a valraven, if it will lead her the way to her betroth. After the arrangement it flies away, only to return when the maiden had given birth to their first born. It asks if she had forgotten her promise, then takes the child away and then tears into its chest of the won wager, consumes the blood within child’s heart and is ‘freed’ from its animal form, by turning into a knight. 

its just a thought. aside from the three eyed raven thing, which could very possibly be Valack, since you know, he happens to have three eyes. 

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Back to the Chessboard!!

Hi (: I saw your chess board post and I had some questions/observation. I see your point with the two players mentally playing the game. I did do some research and was reading through the Teen Wolf Wikia comments (teenwolf(.)wikia(.)com/wiki/Thread:111440) and saw some interesting comments that made me stop and think.
In 3x09 Stiles had told Jennifer Blake that he didn’t play chess, but his dad did, so why was the chess board in his room if he didn’t play chess? Then, I saw that Sleepwalkers see things inverted, so maybe the view that had Derek and the queen switched was Stiles’ view, but I wasn’t really sold on that until someone also pointed out that the pieces are arranged to take the symbol of the number which, to me, doesn’t look backwards. If it was in Stiles’ inverted mind, it would be. Not sure if that’s just me reaching or if it might hold significance.
Also, Someone pointed out that there’s an ash tray on the left side of the chess board and a pink-ish red feminine roll-on deodorant on the right side, which would be an odd thing to find in Stiles’ room. 
I’m curious what you think about Ms. Morrell, as well. She has always been a suspicious little thing, especially since she was the french teacher and guidance counselor at the school, but she was also with the Alpha Pack and working as a psychiatrist at Eichen House. I’m not entirely sure what exactly she’s trying to gain by having so many hands in different pots.
Last but not least, I’m curious which Argent you think is the white knight. It’s interesting that that knight can take Scott off the board and there were 3 Argents that wanted to do it: Gerard, Chris, and Victoria. There have been a few metas that say that Victoria could be alive, which I wouldn’t be surprised about. It makes me wonder if the reason Jackson, Kate, and Argent are on the other side of the line is because their characters are currently dormant and not needed at this part of the game.
I also found it interesting that Allison’s knight could have taken Aiden’s pawn out, which would have had hers taken out either by the king or the queen and then they both ended up dying by the end of the season, though it was inverted, Allison dying before Aiden. Peter’s knight could have taken out Kate’s pawn, which is kind of what his plan had been since season 1 and had sort of hoped would happened in Season 4. Just things I thought about as well. -submitted by @dontcallmepixie

This is a long one and I love it!! Okay, so I went through the comments of the wiki page, not all of them, but a few of them, and they seem to be going over the same questions I did back when the episode first aired. Like how Derek could be in check, that sort of thing. There are a few moves that could be done provided the black player isn’t really paying attention to all the pieces that would result in a checkmate in two moves. I’m just sort of cringing at what my dad would say if he saw these comments stating that the board is brown and yellow. 

First question! Stiles stating that he didn’t play chess, but his dad did. This may be completely false, but I always figured that line made sense because I’m in the same boat. I hate chess, I’ve always hated playing it. But my dad loves playing chess and I’m the only one in my family who will play with him. And I had a chessboard under my bed growing up, and never considered myself as an actual chess player because the only person I play against, is my dad. Stiles could be the same way, but that’s pure speculation. I never noticed the way the chess pieces were put together! Thank you for pointing that out! Although to me, it looks more like an S rather than a 5. I know the two are similar, but it seems to curved and even for a 5. I’m nitpicking, sorry. 

You’re taking about that pink and white thing on the right side of the board, correct? Are we sure its deodorant? I honestly have no idea, and I never bothered to look around the sidelines of the board. My mistake. The ashtray, I would assume is either a decoration piece for the desk, or belongs to the Sheriff and Stiles is borrowing it for something. Or hiding it from his dad. As for the deodorant, maybe it belongs to Lydia when she came over off screen. Or maybe it once was his mother’s, and Stiles keeps it on his desk as part of a shrine. I’ll have to look more into it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! 

I’m not sure about the Allison and Aiden parallel, I think you should expand more on it since you seem to have so many ideas about it!! But for the Peter attacking Kate, I think the reason we aren’t shown the chess piece Peter attacking Kate is because currently Kate is protected by the bishop that’s behind the Jackson piece. He’s not going to go attacking while getting killed in the process. Not again, at any rate. The Argent piece is an interesting one because it could be either Gerard, Chris or Victoria, or even just the family as an whole. Personally, I think it might be Gerard. Those two were the more threatening of the Argents that Stiles had met or went against. 

Thank you for all of these new ideas to ponder on!!! I now have something to do during break besides Dragon Age all day long. 

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meta, flawed characters, & Scott

So there is this huge divide in all things fandom. It’s inherent. It’s the nature of the beast. We have a fandom based around many characters and everyone is in fandom at all because of their favorites. We defend our favorites. Sometimes we defend the favorites by deriding the other characters and that is stupid, because without the other characters, we wouldn’t have our favorites. It’s fandom. Fans being fanatical about the thing they love.

But to an extent, it doesn’t belong in what we wanna call “meta.” Protecting the darling fictional characters from the evils of their fictional worlds is the realm of fanfiction, not discussion. There is no discussion if there are taboo subjects and declaring certain traits of a character off-limits because they don’t fit a personal headcanon limits discussion and new ideas and new stories. It limits everything and kills all the fun. There’s different ways of looking at meta and to each their own; meta is what it is, meta is thinking about the show beyond the show. That’s pretty simple. But the point is still to have fun, right?

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Tezcatlipoca & Other Aztec Mythology in Teen Wolf

“Our Master, the Lord of the Near and Nigh,

thinks and does what He wishes; He determines, He amuses himself.

As He wishes, so will it be.

In the palm of His hand He has us; at His will He shifts us around.

We shift around, like marbles we roll; He rolls us around endlessly.

We are but toys to Him; He laughs at us.”

Over the past few months I have seen a lot of posts regarding Kira, Tezcatlipoca, Aztec Mythology, and how/when any of it ties together. But I’ve had this growing thought that I can’t seem to get control of, and I need to tame the beast of my mind. [Image and poem can be found here.]

I first want to look at a general idea of Aztec mythology for brief background.

The easiest way to understand how the worldivew of the Universe works to the Aztecs is to look at things as circular rather than as parallel-planes like the idea of the Heaven-Earth-Hell layering. The Universe works as if it is wheels within wheels. I have two excerpts from this website, where I gathered most of my information. These are just the two parts I plan on focusing on most, if you’re interested you should check it out.

Each successive level of the heavens comes closer to the earthly one, ranging from the purely spiritual levels, to the “black” heaven (the void of space), to layers of the stars and planets. Similarly, each level of the underworld comes closer to the Place of the Dead (Mictlan).
  Again using the wheel concept of the universe, the divinity of the universe is again separated in the Mesoamerican worldview- the outer ring being raw divinity (once again, Ometeotl), the middle ring being the realm of the gods, and the center ring being the physical world. As these wheels turn, the spiritual world interacts with the physical world, and it is from this concept that the Tonalpohualli (the sacred calendar or “Count of Fate”) was born. The gods may influence the physical world through their actions in the spiritual world, but they also may choose to act in the physical world itself. In addition, it is also possible for a person to gain access to the spiritual world. In any case, it is the gods, and not Ometeotl, who have conscious influence on the universe.

The first excerpt is mostly for the reference of Void, which you can read about here, here and here. The second excerpt is what really caught my attention while researching this stuff.

“It is the gods…who have conscious influence on the universe.” Interesting. The gods are able to influence the physical world, whether by their actions in their “wheel” or by acting in the physical world itself.

There are two different theories going around about a larger player influencing the lives of the characters in Teen Wolf–either Void/Malice or Valack, both of which I’ve talked about in the past. But I want to introduce a third possibility: Tezcatlipoca. Before anybody goes jumping to conclusions, bare with me. I’ll explain everything. [There is a picture of an injured Kira farther down after the break, so use caution if that is a trigger please.]

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