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Have Courage & Be Kind Little Dove

@mihrsuri / mihrsuri.tumblr.com

Lil. 30s. Jewish (Mizrahi) queer biracial fairy princess
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labour (2023), paris paloma / the tudors (2007-2010) / firebrand (2024) / elizabeth (1998) / young elizabeth, nicola tallis (2024) / the other boleyn girl (2001), philippa gregory / bastard princess (2015), gemma lawrence / the lady elizabeth (2008), alison weir / the final year of anne boleyn (2022), natalie grueninger / the other boleyn girl (2008) / history of man (2023), maisie peters / blood, sex & royalty (2022)

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I am imagining all the “I was there Gandalf” moments that the Tudors fandom can look back on, including the Triad reveal and the Norwich discovery. A third one that’s smaller but still significant is when DNA testing backs up the Triad reveal. Either they do a paternity test with the royal remains, or they find that the known descendants of Gregory Cromwell and the descendants of George/Owen/Pippa have a distant connection or common ancestor.

I think DNA was still relatively new in the 90s, so maybe it’s several years before they can DNA test 400-year-old skeletal remains or find common ancestors going back sixteen generations. Either way it causes another upheaval and it’s also a nice rebuttal to Restorationists and other doubters.

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The Norwich discovery is pretty recent so that’s definitely a Fandom Event (of OW OW FUCK THAT GUY) - I wonder if there’s a ‘fuck that guy (derogatory)’ day on in universe tumblr. And oh gosh, The Triad Discovery. So I’ve been kind of loose on when this happens (The Tudors show in universe happens around like, right now - all the actors are in universe younger) but it’s late nineties/early 2000s plus different tech advancements. So it is by this point extremely well known and taught and also a ‘Listen I Was There When The News Broke’

(With the Triad it is like in retrospect so much makes sense - with the show people are going in knowing about it by this point but oh there’s so much I Was There about the discovery. SO MUCH)

The contents of the chest make it pretty damn clear (spoilers go here about that somewhat) but yep, the current Duchess of Essex + I think one of Owen’s descendants off the top of my head take a DNA test and yep, Related.

(Oh the trainwreck there - they basically stick their fingers in their ears and sing LALALALA CANNOT HEAR YOU - because while don’t get me wrong, they LOATHE Thomas Cromwell and will admit he was uh ‘favoured’ by Henry and have Opinions about the sullied royal bloodlines they are also deeply invested in the two current royal princes being Secretly Of The True Royal Line (and a whole other thing) and so they also refuse to believe that any King would ever be bisexual or love a commoner that much so they mostly just ignore it and huff about how corrupted by the Coarse Commoner Henry Was (in his policies! they were bros! Because Cromwell was a weasel! No homo!)

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Norwich was the historical bombshell that like no one spotted (in universe) - because it was such a private thing for Thomas and the people he did tell held to that is a thing I want to add.

cc @nocompromise-noregrets for the tags

Henry, Anne, Liz Cromwell, Thomas Cromwell’s entire family in the afterlife: I WILL COME DOWN FROM PARADISE AND FIGHT THE GLORIFICATION

For an even more heartbreaking thought @herawell consider that really the only details we have is through his abuser in gleeful justifying detail. Which is why honestly The Tudors TV show was so important because it gave him his voice back

Re your tags @herawell - I want to say that no one did but unfortunately I feel like someone did Try It (I want to note that the historical romance author who wrote a book in her Welles series that was very definitely based on him before his awful was discovered handled it really well - she and her publishers consulted and put out a new edition with a preface or something and they did not do his book in the TV adaptation) - also me thinking about PG handling this like ONE FEAR. ONE FEAR. I think it might have been a book rather than a TV show or a movie.

@nocompromise-noregrets Welles Hall staff taking a moment to yell like

omg, YES. Ellie having a Moment on her socials, and the official socials having to be Very Carefully Worded (and totally separate from Ellie's XD she's very careful to keep fandom and real life separate). Good grief, the thought of PG getting hold of something like that... >.< (I'm still salty at the absolute hash she made of Anne Neville...)

I really want the Welles Hall social media person to be like ‘fuck it’ and just post the most polite subtle shade (in a ‘release day we will be highlighting the history because Ahmed will be giving a talk’ way)

(Just thinking about what The White Princess looks like in OT3 verse gave me as the kids say, The Ick (conclusion Maggie B is still the villain somehow :(. So is Anne Neville) let alone this so I am Hoping She Just Ignored It)

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I was thinking about what a modern!au Elizabeth Tudors room vibes might be like and anyway @theladyelizabeth any thoughts?

I've dove hard into associating Elizabeth with red now lol so I'm envisioning something like ths maybe:

Elegant black, white and grey (because the first two were her actual, official colours) with pops of red but still light and airy.

With an adjourning book nook because that's an absolute must. I definitely don't associate Elizabeth with minimalism tbh, she seems like the type who likes to collect stuff (especially of high value) but at the same time I think she would hate clutter. So I picture her doing like a bi-monthly declutter of her space and while it will get naturally untidy, she's pretty on top of doing a "bedroom reset" at the weekend.

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Glorfindel Week, Day 2: Helcaraxë

"[Fingolfin] and his host wandered long in misery, but their valour and endurance grew with hardship; for they were a mighty people, the elder children undying of Eru Ilúvatar, but new-come from the Blessed Realm, and not yet weary with the weariness of Earth. The fire of their hearts was young, and led by Fingolfin and his sons, and by Finrod and Galadriel, they dared to pass into the bitterest North; and finding no other way they endured at last the terror of the Helcaraxë and the cruel hills of ice. Few of the deeds of the Noldor thereafter surpassed that desperate crossing in hardihood or woe." --Of the Flight of the Noldor, The Silmarillion

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Do you ever have a moment where it turns out you’ve become so attached to your hist!fic historical au OCs that you briefly forget what the history actually is. Because for a moment thinking about May 19 I was like ‘oh yay Meghan and Harry’s wedding and King Thomas I’s 488th birthday’ and frankly I WANT TO LIVE THERE.

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really love dynamics that are like 'it honestly doesn't matter if you view them as romantic or platonic, the point is that they love each other. the type of love is inconsequential, all that matters is that it's there'. gotta be one of my favorite genders.

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Listen I have written numerous essays on how Elrond is in fact biracial (and also mizrahi jewish shaped) but now @cosmonauthill I am thinking about Elrond and pomegranates and figs (because fresh figs with feta and expensive good honey sounds so good right now) and how he grows the fruits of all sides of his heritage in Rivendell and anyway I need a moment.

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I am imagining all the “I was there Gandalf” moments that the Tudors fandom can look back on, including the Triad reveal and the Norwich discovery. A third one that’s smaller but still significant is when DNA testing backs up the Triad reveal. Either they do a paternity test with the royal remains, or they find that the known descendants of Gregory Cromwell and the descendants of George/Owen/Pippa have a distant connection or common ancestor.

I think DNA was still relatively new in the 90s, so maybe it’s several years before they can DNA test 400-year-old skeletal remains or find common ancestors going back sixteen generations. Either way it causes another upheaval and it’s also a nice rebuttal to Restorationists and other doubters.

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The Norwich discovery is pretty recent so that’s definitely a Fandom Event (of OW OW FUCK THAT GUY) - I wonder if there’s a ‘fuck that guy (derogatory)’ day on in universe tumblr. And oh gosh, The Triad Discovery. So I’ve been kind of loose on when this happens (The Tudors show in universe happens around like, right now - all the actors are in universe younger) but it’s late nineties/early 2000s plus different tech advancements. So it is by this point extremely well known and taught and also a ‘Listen I Was There When The News Broke’

(With the Triad it is like in retrospect so much makes sense - with the show people are going in knowing about it by this point but oh there’s so much I Was There about the discovery. SO MUCH)

The contents of the chest make it pretty damn clear (spoilers go here about that somewhat) but yep, the current Duchess of Essex + I think one of Owen’s descendants off the top of my head take a DNA test and yep, Related.

(Oh the trainwreck there - they basically stick their fingers in their ears and sing LALALALA CANNOT HEAR YOU - because while don’t get me wrong, they LOATHE Thomas Cromwell and will admit he was uh ‘favoured’ by Henry and have Opinions about the sullied royal bloodlines they are also deeply invested in the two current royal princes being Secretly Of The True Royal Line (and a whole other thing) and so they also refuse to believe that any King would ever be bisexual or love a commoner that much so they mostly just ignore it and huff about how corrupted by the Coarse Commoner Henry Was (in his policies! they were bros! Because Cromwell was a weasel! No homo!)

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Norwich was the historical bombshell that like no one spotted (in universe) - because it was such a private thing for Thomas and the people he did tell held to that is a thing I want to add.

cc @nocompromise-noregrets for the tags

Henry, Anne, Liz Cromwell, Thomas Cromwell’s entire family in the afterlife: I WILL COME DOWN FROM PARADISE AND FIGHT THE GLORIFICATION

For an even more heartbreaking thought @herawell consider that really the only details we have is through his abuser in gleeful justifying detail. Which is why honestly The Tudors TV show was so important because it gave him his voice back

Re your tags @herawell - I want to say that no one did but unfortunately I feel like someone did Try It (I want to note that the historical romance author who wrote a book in her Welles series that was very definitely based on him before his awful was discovered handled it really well - she and her publishers consulted and put out a new edition with a preface or something and they did not do his book in the TV adaptation) - also me thinking about PG handling this like ONE FEAR. ONE FEAR. I think it might have been a book rather than a TV show or a movie.

@nocompromise-noregrets Welles Hall staff taking a moment to yell like

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what’s the vibe of your blog. everyone has their own. is it an art gallery exhibit serving canapés. a nightclub. a knights of the round table situation. a book discussion meeting. a lonely hearts club newspaper section. a bedroom where you and two friends are chatting. the school of athens debating matters of consequence. a garden tea party. a bacchanal. an agatha christie murder novel style tense dinner party. etc

ask game. tell me what You think my blog seems like

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