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Hey I don’t know if this is being talked about on Tumblr but thankfully the AO3 subreddit has a conversation going about this app that just went live.

TikTok user unravel.me.now has just launch an app (lore.fm) she is calling “Audible for AO3”. It’s an app that uses AI voices to read out fics.

🚨She is requiring any authors who do not want their fics to be on this app to OPT OUT by emailing team@lore.fm 🚨 🚨She has not given an actual template or how you’re supposed to prove you’re the author or said how her team will process this or how she will keep these requests secure🚨

I do not have this app. I haven’t seen anyone use it yet. According to Reddit users, unravel.me.now’s earlier TikToks stated she envisions the app being able to create libraries stored on that app and to have version of “Spotify wrapped”. That implies that eventually data collection must happen, if it’s not happening currently.

I don’t know the actual capabilities of this app. I don’t know the legalities. I do know that it personally feels like this app is trying to turn AO3 into a content generation source and I haven’t heard of the app allowing you to leave a comment or kudos or interact with the original work.

I’m just sad about this.

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gachagon

I've seen this on tiktok and tbh I don't know what everyone is freaking out about? It's just to make the fanfic like an audiobook lol. She made it as an accessibility thing so people can listen to fics. I signed up as a beta tester to check it out, and there doesn't seem to be anything malicious. It's also not some AI scraping tool it just generates a voice to read the fic itself.

Not everything new is something scary and weird lol you guys need to calm down sometimes. and if you don't want your fics being idk read by a computers voice just opt out of it, but people are going to do it anyways with any other kind of screenreader? this is just an app that is specifically for fanfics so it's being marketed as one.

Just because you would personally have no real use for it, doesn't mean it's not something that just shouldn't exist. If it's not for you, that's totally fine, but a lot of other people are really excited about it for reasons that are conspicuously left out of this post like accessibility. (and personally I'd love to listen to my own written fics like an audio book as rereading just seems like it'd be too much work and time I don't have.)

  1. Screenreaders are different than ai-generated audiobooks and function differently. Screenreaders also already exist in multiple forms.
  2. Unlike screenreaders, it takes the user away from AO3 and thus treats AO3 like a content generation source instead of a community. There is no way for the users to comment/kudos/bookmark/or even give hits.
  3. It stores the audiofile on both the users device and lore.fm's servers.
  4. Upon closer reading of their TOS it seems there actually isn't a way for authors to even opt out without opening a whole legal can of worms. The app's legal team does not consider fanworks to fall under DMCA, and if there is a story that does (for example original fiction) they require you send in your Full Legal Name, Phone Number, and email address PLUS you have to prove your story is actually on the app and give them the exact location. Which under their current setup they display in the app store isn't actually possible. So you cannot send a DMCA under their TOS.

This isn't an AI generated audio maker though, it genuinely is just a fancy screen reader. The creator of the tool already said that too on her tiktok because people are just spreading misinformation about the app.

And yeah I suppose you could say it's bad that it stores the fics, but it would have to in order to function anyways. And as far as I'm aware this isn't some big company taking it, its a few people who are also in fandom themselves.

That’s not correct but I don’t blame you for not knowing. These people have done a lot of work to hide their actual backgrounds and make this look organic and well intentioned. Their parent company already makes an AI Storytelling app and an AI audiobook app that uses nearly an identical layout. More info in my post here.

It makes me so mad because I desperately want more TTS tools and things that can help make work accessible to more readers, but this is just unethical and screams of tech bros looking to make a cash grab on fandoms.

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i'll never not hold disdain for the idea of "content starvation" and the more i see people parade it around the more i hate it

i think v*ltron putting out eight seasons in two years really kickstarted this in online fan spaces specifically, but nowadays so many shows and games release things at an absolutely absurd rate. pokemon has been notoriously controversial for its crunch time and poor quality of games as a result, bingewatching culture has killed a lot of tv shows because executives have an expectation for instant success and will kill shows if they don't meet it. and it's frusterating to continue to see fans treat this like the norm when it comes to their favorite shows or games too. i don't want to see things put out under absurd crunches. i don't want to be surrounded by people who'll cry "i'm so content starved!" and then dismiss the actual content they're being offered in the same breath. i don't want to see creators have to feel like they've got to keep up with the incessant demands of fans in order to continue making the thing they're making. hiatuses are normal and there's always plenty of other stuff to get into while you wait.

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Well shit, Henry Jenkins, out here in 1997 dropping truth bombs

Oh hey I need this for a research paper I'm writing, thank you!

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angstbotfic

i mean he had been out here since 1988 dropping such bombs:

"'fandom' is a vehicle of marginalized subcultural groups (women, the young, gays, etc.) to pry open space for their cultural concerns within dominant representations; it is a way of appropriating media texts and rereading them in a way that serves different interests, a way of transforming mass culture into a popular culture"

Jenkins, Henry. “Star Trek Rerun, Reread, Rewritten: Fan Writing as Textual Poaching.” Critical Studies in Mass Communication 5, no. 2 (1988): 85–107. https://doi.org/10.1080/15295038809366691.  

there are even some earlier works in fan studies but that’s what i have ready to hand. 

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neil-gaiman

Henry's been amazing for a long time.

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valmillion

it was international jazz day and all you guys listened to was a single album??

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doubleipa

not even close to joking when i say that everyone going "meeeee :3" in the notes needs to ask themselves why they're so much more willing to listen to jazz that isn't made by black artists

If you like Casiopea, check out some classic jazz funk fusion albums like Head Hunters by Herbie Hancock or Return to Forever by Chick Corea.

If you like the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack, check out some later period big band albums like Mingus Ah Um by Charles Mingus and The Roar of '84 by Buddy Rich.

If you like the Persona soundtrack, check out some more modern jazz fusion albums with electronic elements like Black Focus by Yussef Kamaal or Freedom Fables by Nubiyan Twist.

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