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local french hobbit trying to get through life
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lotrlorien

The Green Dragon was one of the many inns of the Shire. It was located in Bywater on the Bywater Road and was the building nearest to Hobbiton, being one mile south-east from the bridge over the Water that led to Bag End. As such, Hobbits from both villages could be seen there.

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higgsbison

you and your bestie [incomprehensible]

sbsjs I love how this post escaped containment so now some people are tagging it with their friends, like yes it's about fantasy Da Vinci and fantasy Machiavelli being good pals, but it can also be about your beloved tumblr mutual who's been posting nothing but kpop and wrestling for the last 5 years

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chechula

Feanor and Silmarilli...the light captured inside gems is of tree origin so I wanted to draw it spread like branches ♥ (it was only a doodle where I tried that light-spreading idea. But my sis saw it, liked it(I guess?), redrawn anatomy.... and made Feanor so good-looking that I had to finish it :D )

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tio-trile

I’ve seen a lot of posts about whether Zagreus is gonna be a boss or the narrator or retired in Hades 2 and they’re all great but listen. What if he’s also been captured and the damsel in distress role

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mobydyke

obsessed with how ahab-coded silver's perception of flint is like..... charismatic, insane, leading everyone to their certain doom, fixated on destroying an enemy to the point of destruction of everything else in their lives, controls the weather, values his goals over the lives of his crew. and then silver thinks he's starbuck with a backbone! he thinks he's the guy who is able to talk the monomaniacal captain out of it! he thinks he's their savior. despite the fact that the narrative has afflicted him with Leg™️ he thinks he's the reasonable and normal sailor! he is in so deep that he thinks he's standing outside of it.

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honted

pretty funny i guess

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pastabot

had to be there

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llamallover

Translation is always tricky, but I remember this slightly different:

Figs were an imported delicacy at the time, and the donkey just managed to eat them (without being given any on purpose). Seeing a donkey eating several times their own value in figs, the philosopher looked to his servant who might have been standing there either in shock, despair, or both, and said something along the lines of “Oh don’t just stand there. Get him some (undiluted) wine to wash the figs down with”. With (undiluted) wine also being an expensive drink.

I feel like that context makes it funnier. Basically like standing in front of your burning mansion with a butler, meeting their eyes, and telling them that you still feel a little chilly and ask them if they could put on an extra log or two.

idk what’s funnier, the burning house situation, or being the butler as you watch your master laugh so hard at his own joke that he fully fucking dies.

Imported delicacy? In Greece? One of the places where figs were historically cultivated? Were they really that rare at the time?

Anyway, like all historical accounts it’s important to ask, where did this come from? And, more importantly, what was the author trying to achieve by telling this? A lot of (if not all) ancient biographers were less concerned with telling the truth and more concerned with painting their subjects in a good or bad light, and taking them at face value can be a problem (see Elagabalus for instance).

The story of Chrysippus’ death comes from Diogenes Laertius, who actually gives TWO accounts of his death.

In the second, he laughs to death after seeing a donkey eat some figs and making a joke to the old woman (presumably the donkey’s owner).

In the first, he gets sick after drinking undiluted wine and dies. This is the one Diogenes Laertius finds more important, apparently - he even writes a poem about it!

Chrysippus grew dizzy after greedily quaffing a cup of Bacchus
He took no thought for the Stoa, nor his country, nor his own soul, but departed for the house of Hades.
(Mensch translation, 2018)

Maybe it’s not about the joke? In both cases it’s about too much of something - laughing too much, or drinking too much. Is this a snide comment about Stoics not practicing what they preach? There’s no reason to think Diogenes Laertius was ridiculing Chrysippus (the guy loved the philosophers, even if Werner Jaeger thought he was an ignoramus), but who knows where Diogenes Laertius got his sources from (he was really bad at sourcing, a real quantity over quality type). Certainly he thought it worth writing “playful verses” about it.

Anyway, if that was Chrysippus’ sense of humor, “one may be forgiven for thinking it was a good thing that none of his 700 books survives” (Hankinson, 1994).

References

Diogenes Laertius; Mensch, P. trans. (2018) Lives of the Eminent Philosophers. Oxford University Press, Oxford.

Hankinson, J. (1994) Bluff Your Way in Philosophy. Ravette Books, Horsham.

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