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Poking fun at risks of being a half-naked Strong Warrior Woman. Home of the Female Armor Bingo card

A short little rundown of many (though not all) current manufactured controversies that the Capital G Gamers™ keyboard warriors talked themselves into* being mad about. All pertaining the issue of female video game characters not being "feminine enough" for the nerdbro tastes.

~Ozzie

*Once again, we can not stress it enough that people making those arguments are so irony-poisoned that telling apart trolls from dorks genuinely mad about the stupidest things is seeking a distinction without difference.

Pornography Addiction

Recently our post on the behavour of Capital-G Gamers, and the problems in the industry that feed into it, attracted a lot of comments advising not to use "porn addict". Some claiming the term was invented by right-wing Christian groups.

It is certainly true that there are various right-wing and/or Christian groups do claim pornography addiction as a reason to revoke basic human rights, further marginalize sex workers, and justify violence against sex workers... that doesn't mean they invented it.

Like most things the radical right relies upon, they co-opted it from a group they have contempt for. Nazis co-opted the Swastika from Buddhism, shitty men on Reddit co-opted involuntary celibacy terminology from a bisexual woman, right-wing pseudo-academics tried to co-opt diversity with their "diversity of thought" campaign... and hateful Christian groups are trying to co-opt expertise on behavioural addictions (sex, gambling, shopping, pornography, etc as opposed to substance addtions) from psychology.

It's worth examining how this is working with pornography and the ways it ties in with the various fashy parties determined to rule the world we all live in.

Actual Pornography Addiction

Actual pornography addiction has its roots in similar addictions such as gambling - it is a situation where the individual becomes obsessed with it as a source of positive feelings, to the detriment of themselves and those around them.

Symptoms of it include a full blown obsession, a loss of interest in other enjoyable activities, spending money needed for essentials on the focus of the addiction, engaging it under risk circumstances (such as while at a job that you really need to keep), suffering anxiety and frustration when unable to indulge, etc.

Importantly, with these kinds of addictions, they are often not really about what what they appear to be. People get addicted sometimes because it's a reliable source of dopamine hits, or because it provides an escape from harsh realities around them, etc. Taking the focus of the addiction away does not fix the underlying cause, and often leads to them finding a substitute addiction.

So, if you say... for the sake of argument, you have a group of people who actively identify as "gooners", remember a porn parody of Lola Bunny as the "real" design, obsess over a single game because it has some sexy skins, make 9/11 jokes and riot when a quality of life feature prevents them from looking up video game girl skirts, and all the points in the original post (including want to fap to a character who is defined by how she's been abused by men)... it's not unreasonable to point out they do seem to be advertising to the world that they are current or aspiring pornography addicts. Particularly since their outrage is rarely about what they actually claim it is about.

How much it applies to any given member of that community is impossible to say, as the whole group is irony poisoned and also obsessed with performative behaviour.

And as a side note, if someone dear to you has similar behavior, whether its in relation to porn, sex, gambling, video games, or anything else - then it is generally considered the compassionte thing to try to get them to realize it and work towards addressing both the addiction and any underlying causes in their life.

Right-wing "Pornography Addiction"

When people who have nothing but contempt for psychology and sex therapists say "porn addiction" or "sex addiction" they are villifying sex workers and objectified persons, blaming them for the violence done against them and completely unrelated ills in society.

They consider it "addiction" if you develop a crush on someone other than your spouse, have normal sexual fantasies, occasionally want to enjoy pornography, are curious about visiting a strip bar or even just masturbate... under any circumstances.

They are closer to anti-pornography than concerned for addiction, and has a long, long history. I would hope BABD followers would be aware we are definitely not anti-porn and we actively support sex workers.

Obviously, the real goal is to give them more control and more avenues to suppress people. This is clearly illustrated in the ways Project 2025 both wants to outlaw pornography and define "transgender ideology" as pornograpy. You can see between the lines, the goal isn't to make people better, the goal is to criminalize the existence of people they look down on.

Also, the solutions they propose clearly don't help anyone and they know that - South Korea has strict anti-porn laws, and the "gooner" community mistake it for a porny wonderland. Again, they don't want to help anyone, they just want to hurt people they do not like.

The harm of co-opting

At face value, it's easy to see why the proposed solution to this is just to say it's not real, it's right-wing nonsense, etc.

But that creates two problems. First it means there's people with a problem that is being denied, and secondly it kind of ignores the real overall goals by missing the forest for the trees.

People whose lives are harmed by behavioural addiction need a framework to be able to address it, and need other people to take it seriously and not just dismiss it as "made up". This applies to gambling, shopping, gaming and pornography.

Think about it, when was the last time you saw a swastika on display as a symbol of positivity? Think "incel" is ever coming back to the LGBTQ people who struggle to find people accepting of them?

Secondly, the reactionaries co-opting it are not "making up" a boogieman. They're not that imaginative and they're much, much more dishonest and malicious.

They're actively spreading misinformation in an attempt to gain for authoritarian power to use to harm people. They're actively trying to undermine the work people have done to help people, stripping the actual research away and placing themselves as the authority on a topic of public wellbeing that they see only as a cudgel.

Because they won't stop at just claiming to be the experts on pornography addiction, they'll claim to be the experts on gambling, drugs, alcohol, gaming, shopping, etc. All their advice will be what's convenient for them, and their friends.

Same way all kinds of psychological concepts get co-opted into torturing people under the claim of conversion therapy (which does not and has never worked, in any capacity), often in the name of profit as well as oppression.

So my recommendation is be less concerned about the term appearing, and more concerned about whether it is in the context of warning people their obsession is harmful - or just trying to trick people into agreeing to authoritarian control.

-wincenworks

So, this image has been viral on the Internets in armor nerd circles a few times, but I never saw anyone talk about the artist and how she also does amazing stuff like this.

And this.

And this.

Gambargin is mostly active on Facebook, but has a huge, HUGE backlog of amazing drawings of warrior women on Instagram and deviantArt.

In summary:

-wincenworks

This bingo of Sindel from Mortal Kombat 11 brought to you by the memory of how Mortal Kombat is supposedly full of 'girl power' and this Outside X-Box video:

Because this is generally a pattern with these kinds of properties that try to pretend because they give a female character super powers sometimes, they're above critique - they always revert to garbage.

There is always plenty of potential for making interesting female characters sexy, in many ways, but if you start with your standard as "she's hot" it invariably leads to losing the aspects that make the character interesting or help build drama.

Also... it's Mortal Kombat. Buying a Mortal Kombat game to oggle the female characters is like going to a speciality restaurant with a celebrity chef to buy bottled water.

-wincenworks

Since this is apparently being made by the late Samuel Goldwyn's studio, it feels only right to begin with one of his great quotes.

Gentleman, listen to me slowly.

That is not even close to the iconic bikini armor, and is, in fact, an unholy combination of the bikini armor and the armor that Red Sonja had in her first appearance as a comic character:

Nobody is going to watch a Red Sonja movie based on the bikini amor, because while it might have been novel at some point - how it is just a boring version of what they see in countless pieces of media.

(Also that thing looks so 60s/70s, with the faux metal finish and token scale texture, like a budget version of a Barbarella costume - though I'm sure she'd refuse to wear it)

Nobody wants to see a Red Sonja that is mostly about her getting ground down etc. People want to watch her do cool shit with swords, kick ass, talk shit to big burly men and get mad when her love interest gets killed due to not being as badass as she is.

Or you could go with the hard-drinking, pistol slinging, Ukrainian/Polish-inspired version that Robert E Howard actually wrote.

There are a lot of options, you don't have to consistently pick the absolute worst ones over and over. We already had, essentially, this idea in 1985 and it um...

-wincenworks

Source: deadline.com

i wish i could see this picture for the first time again

Every time I see some gamerbro edit of a female video game character to make her 'prettier', I always see something I have mentally dubbed Cockroach Wife Syndrome (in honor of the guy who accidentally conditioned himself to only be aroused by a fantasy of his cockroach wife Ogtha).

That is to say, there is a certain subset of gamerbro who interacts so rarely with real women, that his primary touchstone for how women look is fiction: often video games and anime. So when a video game woman looks too realistic--too close to having traits that one might find in real flesh and blood women--this is foreign to them. This is unattractive. They have been jacking it to hentai and blender animation porn for too many years, and have inadvertently conditioned themselves to only be sexually aroused by the exaggerated cartoonish traits of animated women.

So now every time I see one such edit, I can't help but think. My. What a coincidence you've made her look more like an anime waifu. Truly dedicated to your cockroach wife.

We've already did a throwback of our original post about this hilarious redesign before, but in light of what we discussed re: Silent Hill 2 and Stellar Blade nerdbro meltdowns lately, @azzandra summarizes this sadly topical problem perfectly.

People who insist on those sorts of edits, or who photoshop smiles on Marvel movie heroines, or throw a hissy fit because two square inches of pixel cleavage or butt were "censored" with character model update, clearly have a case of "literally divorced my sexual preference from real life humans and will make it everyone else's problem" disease. I'd prescribe touching some grass for that.

And no, frankly, it doesn't really matter if they're in fact irony-poisoned or otherwise insincere, as long as they're acting so loudly and publicly as if they truly felt that way. Ironic incel is still, for all intents and purposes, just another incel.

BTW, if you haven't heard of the tulpa Cockroach Wife Ogtha story and are feeling morbidly curious, please be warned of how potentially disturbing it is before googling the details.

~Ozzie

The invaluable Shaun dropped in November a very exhaustive look at Stellar Blade and at the manufactured culture war that Mark Kern/Grummz tried to recruit the game into in an attempt to revive Gamergate.

To summarize, an introduction to whom Mark is, his failed game project and the fake outrage is followed by quite measured review of Stellar Blade itself, including a look at the story, gameplay and design. Surprising no-one, Shaun is not very impressed, despite giving it a fair shake.

Of course my favorite part must be when he makes a point about NPCs having no reaction to Eve's outfit, by making her bring tragic news to an NPC while clad in a silly bikini. Which then extends into a short discussion of what's basically our blog's thesis, including examples of varying levels of ludonarrative dissonance caused by sexualized outfits in different games. Including this comment on the skimpy costume rhetoric:

"Of course it is up to your own judgment what you think is sufficient justification for any particular character outfit or design. And if you're happy to accept actually she has to be naked because she caught Clothes-Fall-Off Disease, then that's up to you honestly, I'm not going to argue with you."

I'm with Shaun here. Perhaps pretending that this sort of Thermian Argument rhetoric is serious media analysis goes a tiny bit over the line? Maybe admitting to being a horny, aimlessly angry gremlin would actually help guys like Mark and his audience to find some cheesy fun games they'd genuinely enjoy? Hell, he could just... actually deliver that game he promised them.

Or maybe they're just too commited to spewing anti-trans hate and other Nazi rhetoric at anything even remotely "PC/woke/DEI" in their eyes to even care about actual gaming, as our last related post elaborated.

~Ozzie

Vengeance Paladin ⚔️ my PC Raine

Raine is definitely the hero the fantasy genre needs, the paladin who will make us look deep within ourselves and ask why don't we dress all fictional men like this?

Truly inspiring.

-wincenworks

Oh hey, new Dynasty Warriors game came out... let's see how they did with Sun Shangxiang, aka Lady Sun.

Oh dear.

And for the curious, this is what historic illustrations tend to depict her as:

Weird how gamers only seem to worry about remaining true to the source material under particular circumstances.

For further context, Lady Sun has gotten a pretty rough deal in most of the games, but this is how they made her look in Dynasty Warriors 9 (where she appeared in DLC):

So not only is this more ridiculous than just not having armor (to the extent she needs bike shorts) but it also is a massive step back.

And somehow this is now as ridiculously fantasy-esque as Hyrule Warriors, though... hopefully none of the female characters get as bad an outfit as Shia.

-wincenworks

Silent Hill 2 is the greatest game I don't think I can unconditionally recommend to people. Because it is amazing, but its also about trauma, guilt, abuse (of adults and children) and how unhealed, festering harm perpetuates itself onto innocent bystanders. A play-through of it is a rough ride emotionally.

It also features this adorable little scamp with the excellent points.

Now, if you're at all familiar with Silent Hill 2 you're probably very well informed on what this particular meme relates to. But if you're not, and you want a primer - Dead Domain has created a video pointing out the absurdity of this particular fiasco.

This was, of course, followed up when trailer seasons came around and Naughty Dog released a trailer than seemed to depict a woman who didn't care for gender conformity, and CD Projekt trailer that indicates, let me check my notes... Ciri's appearance has changed slightly as she's grown older - also she's probably going to be the protagonist of the next game, as all variations of The Witcher always build to. This has lead to some truly amazing fan art, and also the greatest possible observation by @dyingnome

And this isn't a surprise to anyone who follows these conversations, I think it's worth talking about because certain events globally have emboldened these types (who always seem to be gulible enough to pay for a blue tick on X nee Twitter) - leading to them trying to shout out all other conversation on the medium. We are, in fact, at the point where they're admitting they are Nazis who don't play games.

Truly we have never had more confirmation that the people who aggressively campaign for a standard of cartoonishly over-sexualized as the baseline for female characters do so not out of a love of gaming, but rather because of overwhelming indifference to a medium they don't participate in.

@verilybitchie has recently just released an essay that focuses initially on disappointment with current trans, particularly non-binary, options in games, but also covers how we got there in terms of certain genres of games having been historically unwilling to to let go the male gaze.

This, of course, is not an excuse for the self-identifying Nazis etc, but goes a long way in explaining why your more normal friends might have a confused reaction, and highlights the kinds of issues in the industry that are still unaddressed.

Also, in case you're the sort of person who needs to hear it from a middle-aged or older white man:

-wincenworks

tfw you make a whole set of custom brushes just because you wanted to paint one (1) artwork that contains fancy knight armor.

I'll never get people who even imply that you can't make a character look beautiful in a non-boobastic full plate armor. Seems like a skill issue to me. Take notes from @foervraengd!

Found this piece via inquiring the author about their other piece, The Porcelain Prince, which depicts a less sensible, but incredibly aesthetic idea of (ceremonial) porcelain armor:

~Ozzie

Your first mistake in art is thinking you draw men and women inherently differently

I'm serious, this is genuinely not a joke. There's no wrong way to do art but you do make a mistake when you think that you draw men and women differently without any overlap or gray area, like they're two opposites and that's how they'll always be FOREVER. Treating two genders as vastly different is absolutely the incorrect way to think about things and considering how anatomy is one of the first things you practice when you start drawing human or human adjacent characters, it becomes harder and harder to unlearn as time goes on

When learning to draw, you need to understand that there's more body types for ALL genders than just "flat as a board with no hips" and "slightly thinner waist with larger chest"

There's more ways to look than androgyny you fucks

The continued comments saying "I draw both of them with big tits" or "I draw both of them as cute" or "I draw both of them the exact same" are literally missing part of my goddamn point here. I'm not saying you draw every character you ever draw exactly the same, I'm saying that when you draw characters differently based on their gender is where you're messing up

You're all also forgetting about, ya know. FAT PEOPLE. AND I AM A FAT PERSON. That one stings with disgust as well as disappointment on a lot of you. Do better.

You should be drawing characters differently, with different body shapes, with different hair colors, from different places around the world. But what you SHOULDN'T do is draw them differently strictly based on their gender and how you perceive a gendered body to be.

There is more ways to look than androgyny. There is more ways to draw than exactly the same.

OP's original point refers to how suspicious dimorphism in character design, as well as (tangentially) all the bullshit excuses for double standards in costumes, are born.

It's a serious and good art advice: Do NOT get caught up in bio-essentialism when designing characters of different sexes and/or genders, and NEVER take pointers on what features read as masculine vs feminine as gospel or as unbreakable rules, because neither life nor art works that way! And yes, making everyone uniformly androgynous isn't the answer either. Genuine diversity, as always, is the key to avoiding both the Sameface/Samebody Syndrome as well as the obsessively binary thinking about how people look.

~Ozzie

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Fantasy Classes series by Forrest Imel: Warrior, Warlock, Priest, Paladin, Druid, Mage, Ranger, Thief

*slams fist on table* THIS IS THE SORT OF GENDER EQUAL CHARACTER DESIGN I LIKE TO SEE.

We posted the warlocks before, but the entire set is an amazing example of equitable character and costume design!

And the artist is on Tumblr! @forrestimel

~Ozzie

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My redesign hot take is that if you’re aiming to “desexualize” a female character, don’t make her boobs smaller. You’re implying a lot here.

Instead of shrinking her boobs, try:

  • Changing her posture to something normal people do (bonus points for slouching/rounded shoulders, a common posture for tall and/or big chested women)
  • Making sure her outfit is appropriate for the situation (showing skin is not inherently sexualizing, lingerie armor or half-naked-in-the-snow probably is)
  • Making her torso/waist thicker, maybe even enough that all her organs would reasonably fit!

There are probably lots more options too! I’m not an artist! Just a person with a big chest and back pain!

Important points all around!

One crucial addition: do know the difference between shrinking the boobs as part of the anatomy and containing the boobs within chest wear, like a layered armor or a sports bra (a.k.a. don't be like the dudebros who cried about Tifa getting a "breast reduction" via sports bra in FF7 remake).

~Ozzie

Baldur's Gate 3 (Part 2 - Minthara)

Okay, I covered the stuff in Baldur's Gate 3 is mixed and complicated. Let's talk about an objectively well executed character and visually designed - Minthara.

From a general writing perspective, she's exactly what I mean when I say it's not enough to support, women's rights - we need to support their wrongs. She is complicated, ruthless and villainous in a way we rarely get to see female characters - and every aspect of her design supports and conveys it.

Spoilers below the cut.

So apparently Zak Snyder, not yet content with the violence he has already done to the media of film, has an animated movie coming out on Netflix in September, "Twilight of the Gods".

Based on what I can find, this lady appears to be Sigrid, and she is:

  1. A child of the giants (hence the small stature I suppose?); and
  2. On an epic quest for revenge; and
  3. Various vikings and Thor are in it.

Now obviously point #1 indicates this is not anything seeking historical accuracy so I will waive my usual "why she have a woad tattoo" query, grudgingly, and instead ask where did get bike shorts, and knee high socks? What is this outfit!?

And why does she look much more scary and badass when she's NOT on a battlefield with a sword and shield?

I mean, you'd think if there was one time she'd want to actually make sure she looks protected and intimidated - it'd be the battlefield right? Particularly since she clearly kicks ass in that fight against men two to four times her size.

Also who sold her those bike shorts? Is that the real plot?

-wincenworks

Baldur's Gate 3 (Part 1 - Introduction)

It's a great time to be an old school Dungeons & Dragons player, you get to smugly observe millions of people realizing the game is good actually... or at least that the game can facilitate heart touching romances with imaginary, terrible people.

(To be clear, I'm not judging you - these two are, but I'm not)

As one of the biggest AAA games of 2023, it's unsurprising that it's big and complicated - and there's a lot that can be talked about with many aspects of it - including female armor and costumes. Indeed, there's already a lot of commentary on it and community activity, from the confusing, to the life affirming.

And of course, both Dungeons & Dragons and Larian Studios have histories that we've touched on before - and I can confidently say it represents a huge improvement in quality, style and attitudes. Plus sometimes their advertising is just gay.

There's good, there's bad, there's inspired and there's missed opportunities - so it'd be impossible to sum it all up in one post.

Also, now it's finished... I can feel safe commenting on it and not being told "that's changing next week" - that's the excuse I'm using for being so late to the party on this one.

It'll also be impossible to avoid talking about it without some spoilers. So I'll try to cover as much as possible spoiler-free, then put spoilers below a read-more break.

-wincenworks

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