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Labyrinthine-INTJ

@labyrinthine-intj

The INTJ mind - the greatest of tools if you can survive the maze.
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st-just
If you’re waiting for a moment where you’re like “this is it,” I’m telling you, it never comes. Nobody comes on TV and says “things are officially bad.” There’s no launch party for decay. It’s just a pileup of outrages and atrocities in between friendships and weddings and perhaps an unusual amount of alcohol.
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Anonymous asked:

Can you point out the neg outcomes or affects of heavy ni? You got me curious with your last post because you stated its easier to list the negatives.

Good evening anon! :)

I think it's probably less of a universal thing and more of a me thing when it comes to the question of what's easier to make a list of. Since most people I talk to are not NJs and since NFJs have this compulsion of automatically trying their absolute best to adapt to everyone, I'm always acutely aware of my own shortcomings. For instance, I've recently made my first ESTP friend and it's curious how inadequate I feel in her presence. It's not something she makes me feel, she's a very nice person. It's because her Se makes absolute sense to me. It doesn't feel foreign to me like Si or Te do. It seems kind of counterintuitive, but adapting to an STJ is less of a challenge because my expectations to adapt to them are lower. I get to exist more as a person and learn about their foreign perspective of things instead. But adapting to an ESTP is like I'm hanging myself upside down and force myself to dance on the ceiling. I don't usually talk about what interests me, I listen to what other people want to talk about. This ESTP friend talks about all the trips she made recently to all kinds of cities here and what conclusions she drew from that about our culture (she's not from here). She talks about how our cities are structured, how they were built, what effect that structure has on our society. It's a fascinating take, but I don't even really know where I am most of the time. I don't remember which road I took to get here. Might as well have just teleported for all I know. So how do I adapt to that Se when I'm so oblivious to it? I've got nothing to add. So I just nod and listen.

Which leads me to this: NJs are not practical. Like at all. For instance, I had to assemble a lot of my furniture on my own when I moved. Took me 2-3 days per piece of furniture. I did it, but any witness would have drowned in despair from watching me. When I was little, my dad bought a new rug, a pretty big and pretty heavy one, so he asked my INTJ brother and his friend to help him carry it inside. "INTJ lifts three fringes and says 'oh but that's not heavy at all!'" turned into a running gag afterwards. He really thought he was helping. He was trying his best. His best just wasn't very much because he had no intuitive understanding of how to go about it, about how much physical strength he needed to invest in order to have any sort of effect on the physical world. In a similar vein, I'm an absolute disaster when it comes to regulating the loudness of my voice. I never have the faintest idea of how loudly I must speak in any given situation to make myself be understood. It's always too quiet, and my INFJ friend has the same problem. NJs completely lack an understanding of the physical world. It doesn't mean they don't understand it in theory. But put them to the test in practice and you'll have a good laugh. To everyone else it can actually look like the NJ has no self-preservation instinct whatsoever because what they are doing sometimes is just completely stupid. Have I walked through the middle of a riot before just to catch a train? Yes, I have. Did I fear for my life? Yes, I did. Would I do it again? Regrettably, yes.

That brings me to this: NJs always need a goal to work towards or else their life will feel completely meaningless and they'll be filled up with a feeling of emptiness until they find a new goal. But they usually don't even know how to reach that goal in reality and they don't even really bother thinking about it. They do figure it out along the way, but they are usually a complete disaster. It makes them happy because there is goal to fixate on which gives their life purpose, but they need (and most would never admit to this) other people, preferably SJs, to actually succeed. NTJs are typically less useless in this respect, but don't ask them about the individual steps of their plan. They're not gonna be there. If I'm ever in any sort of crisis, or about to be in one, or exaggerating a completely normal situation that I don't understand and so turn into a crisis in my head, I turn to the ESTJs to save me from myself. Or like my dad always says, I'm a bit too stupid for the little things in life.

Which brings me to this: SJs tend to be very productive people. They may not feel like they are, but it's true. Ask them about what they did that day and they'll list you 10-15 things. I'm glad when I get to 3 and I'm even gladder when I can remember doing them afterwards. I don't know how to remember things. I've talked about this a lot before, but the memory of an NJ is typically not structured in a way that can be accessed. It's not a library that they have a clearance to. They can make requests at the reception desk, but there's usually no one working there, so they're just shouting into a void. Anyone asks an NJ about something they did in the past, something they believed in as a kid, or literally just what happened at the meeting three hours ago, and they won't be able to tell you much because they really don't remember. Their memories are there, they do get encoded in their brains, they don't just vanish. But the memories surface spontaneously by association in a situation. NJs can't go look for them, so swapping stories with an NJ will usually be a tricky feat.

Another thing that I've talked about a lot before is the Ni detachment. NJs can't act in a spur of the moment. They don't jump into action, they need to observe the situation first (the rare occasions that they don't do this, it's because they're being stupid, see the lack of self-preservation instinct paragraph above). This is something that especially the SPs do not understand at all and can get pretty enraged by. They think the NJ is either too shy, or too clumsy or simply a little daft, and consider this detachment an annoyance that should get worked on and gotten rid of. But Ni just works that way, it's not something to get over. This is especially worsened in social situations for the NFJs though because Fe in particular always thinks in social rules. You can't ever just exist. There are rules you need to follow and the rules change depending on the situation. But to figure out what those governing rules are right now, the NFJ will need to take a step back and observe everyone else first, learn from their behaviour and then adapt accordingly. This first step of observation can look extremely awkward to other people, and when I say 'extremely' I mean extremely. There'll just be this person standing there silently in the middle of the room without moving, staring at everyone. Give them a minute (or an hour, maybe).

Not really that bad of a thing, but also brainstorming. I have yet to meet an NJ who doesn't seethe with rage when someone forces them to brainstorm. Their brains are not built that way. Why entertain multiple shallow ideas when you can just dig into one? Always confuses the NPs massively.

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infj-arli

Yeah this makes sense from my perspective

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