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hi i'm tenka I translate japanese-english haikyuu stuff! i love shibes, jesse mccree and ji chang wook ♡
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Anonymous asked:

Hi! I recently came across your post about translating Kansai-ben into English and how the sort of popularized/more common version of translating it into either a southern American accent or Ebonics has its flaws. I got an idea for a Miya twins fic & looked for discourse about writing the dialect “visibly” or not, & your post really helped me. I still haven’t come to a conclusion, but I was wondering if I could link your post in my author’s notes bc I found it to be v helpful and interesting

Hello! Ohh sorry for the late response to this, I am glad that that post was helpful and gave you some other perspectives! You certainly may link it - thank you very much for asking.

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jackthebard

Just remember. There is no such thing as a fake geek girl. There are only fake geek boys. Science fiction was invented by a woman.

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sourcedumal

Specifically a teenage girl. You know, someone who would be a part of the demographic that some of these boys are violently rejecting.

Isaac Asimov.

yo mary shelley wrote frankenstein in 1818 and isaac asimov was born in 1920 so you kinda get my point

If you want to push it back even further Margaret Cavendish, the duchess of Newcastle (1623-1673) wrote The Blazing World in 1666, about a young woman who discovers a Utopian world that can only be accessed via the North Pole - oft credited as one of the first scifi novels

Women have always been at the forefront of literature, the first novel (what we would consider a novel in modern terms) was written by a woman (Lady Muraskai’s the Tale of Genji in the early 1000s) take your snide “Isaac Asimov” reblogs and stick it

even in terms of male scifi authors, asimov was predated by Jules Verne, HG Wells, George Orwell, you could have even cited Poe or Jonathan Swift has a case but Asimov?

PbbBFFTTBBBTBTTBBTBTTT so desperate to discredit the idea of Mary Shelly as the mother of modern science fiction you didn’t even do a frickin google search For Shame

And if you want to go back even further, the first named, identified author in history was Enheduanna of Akkad, a Sumerian high priestess.

Kinda funny, considering this Isaac Asimov quote on the subject:

Mary Shelley was the first to make use of a new finding of science which she advanced further to a logical extreme, and it is that which makes Frankenstein the first true science fiction story.
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deathcomes4u

Even Isaac Asimov ain’t having none of your shit, not even posthumously.

You know what else was invented by women? Masked vigilantes, the precursor to the modern superhero. Baroness Emma Orczy wrote The Scarlet Pimpernel in 1905. The character would later inspire better known masked vigilantes such as Zorro and Batman.

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bettieleetwo

Stick that in your international pipe and smoke it

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la-knight

I have literally been telling people this for over a year.

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athenadark

the first extended prose piece - ie a novel, was not, as many male scholars will shout, Don Quixote (1605) but The Tale of Genji (1008) written by a woman

The first autobiography ever written in English is also attributed to a woman, The Book of Margery Kempe (1430s).

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ladynorbert

The day may come when I find this post and do not reblog it, but it is not this day.

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y'all i used to think i was an "extroverted" "social" person because i wanted to spend as much time as i could with family friends (or when i was allowed to hang with other friends without getting guilt tripped to the sun and back, those other friends) for as long as possible but i just realised it's because it was a respite and a haven from abuse at home, like count my lucky stars my mum wasn't gonna openly fk me up in front of several uncles and aunties and now im in a better environment i know for a fact im actually a misanthropic piece of crap that can go for an eternity without seeing a single person face to face lmao

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Hello Tenka! I’m Wan. Hope you’re doing well :) just dropping by to say thank you for writing the post on your opinion for translating the Inarizaki boys’ Kansai dialect to an American accent. Your post definitely helps make sense of why I felt it’s unsettling to translate their dialect that way. As someone who speaks in a dialect of my own language, I definitely understand the sentiment of not wanting my dialect to be lost in translation and getting represented by a foreign accent that does not carry the same values and cultural associations as mine. It’s unfair too because like you said, why does it have to be one of the American accents? What makes them entitled to present our native dialect to non-native speakers?

By imposing the (commonly used) Southern accent on the Inarizaki boys, it also just somehow unconsciously make us identify them to have Southern white boys’ qualities. Not saying that there’s anything wrong with that, but imo it’s misrepresentation and a proof of how whitewashed the media is.

Again, thank you so much for writing the post. I’m starting on a fic with the Miya twins as my main characters and I just feel so reluctant to use the Southern accent for them and you have helped me pen my thoughts down very well!! I hope you have a nice day ahead and take care! ♥️🙇🏻‍♀️

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Hello Wan! Thank you so much for considering my post and then taking the time to share your thoughts with me, I appreciate it! I guess it’s because I have fandom creators at the forefront of my mind when I do translations - I try to share different perspectives so that creators can decide with different types of viewpoints available as to how they want to write/portray a character, so thanks for letting me know that this has helped you!! 

I reread my post and I think I stand by it still - kansai-ben translated in an overexaggerated way is personally not my thing, I think it’s important to establish to the reader that certain characters do have an accent there but once it’s known, I guess because the kansai “culture” could be associated with characters being “laid-back,” and/or “sarcastic,” etc; (not that you need to be “kansai” to have any of those qualities, and certainly not that everyone from that region must have such personality traits ie. captain Kita Shinsuke is very much dilligent and straightfoward, with depth of thought - yet he does most certaintly have a kansai accent in every word he speaks) it’s a hand-in-hand kind of association; so if a character from the kansai region has that type of character trait, then I think through my translations I’d like to focus on them showing that trait through what they say and the content of their dialogue more rather than just a face-value accent. On the flipside, I don’t want to really dimish characters like Kita Shinsuke and the depth of his character by shoving a heavily slurred kind of english speech to his translation. Of course, the readers should know that the kansai folk don’t sound like “standard hyoujungo” japanese speakers of other “standard speech” regions, and sometimes in dialogue it is necessary to show that, when there is an interaction there - accents do matter. But I guess every translation turns on its context and the extent to which an accent needs to be portrayed in any given instance lies on a spectrum (like pretty much everything else in this universe), so there’s no hard and fast rule - but a binary “always do it like X” (ie. making them sound like hilbillies) is a no in my books.  (I suppose the above was my thoughts from a linguistic translation perspective. As to why it’s always american “southern” as the default go-to for kansai-ben, well that is another matter to discuss on american cultural exportation and the hegemony of american culture in a rapidly “globalising” world .. hihihihohohoh i’m pepega i don’t have expertise to speak much about this one really in a balanced way, peace)  I’ll keep giving this more thought, I’m doubtful my smooth brain will come up with any actual solutions ... probably just more my mouth moving + complaining = whinging type deal but uhhh!!  Take care on your end too Wan!  ♥️ Thanks again for the inbox, seriously appreciate it! Hope you are well aaaa my biggest love to fic writers !!!!!!!!! 

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my complicated feelings about naruto having terribly written female characters but also naruto being a formulative part of my childhood memories and showing me the value in hard work and never giving up,,,, and kakashi is hot ,,,, 

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