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I’m not really surprised that Disney decided to completely shelve Primos. Unlike other controversial shows, this series was receiving genuine criticism for how racist and tone deaf it was by Latin Americans and Mexicans.

Of course it didn’t help that the main voice actress and show creator responded poorly to the criticism. Seriously, claiming that the show is based on your childhood isn’t an excuse for the piss poor Spanish and racist character names.

There were rumors that Disney was secretly retooling the series, but most of those rumors are coming from fan accounts that don’t cite any credible sources, so take that with a grain of salt.

Anybody who regularly reads my posts knows that I hate seeing shows become lost media, but I personally think that the show getting shelved is for the best.

No amount of retooling was going to save this series and even if by some miracle the series did turn out to be decent, the damage has already been done.

I mean, Disney is a shitty company but I honestly don’t blame them for quietly cutting their loses in this situation.

"Anybody who regularly reads my posts knows that I hate seeing shows become lost media, but I personally think that the show getting shelved is for the best."

Aka it only needs to happen with shows i don't like, fuck the crew who worked their asses off and got an opportunity to have a job on this current climate of the animation industry.

"There were rumors that Disney was secretly retooling the series, but most of those rumors are coming from fan accounts that don’t cite any credible sources, so take that with a grain of salt."

Here have this part of the new intro, i don't cite the sources beacuse i don't want more weirdos to attack the crew or start digging on Disney private stuff on development.

The last thing the crew is making is changing the name of Terremoto Heights to Hacienda Hills (the new version will include "Los Angeles" sign) and making the Hollywood sign more visible.

And reminder from beloved industry people

oh wow, it looks like Disney's Primos is coming out - I thought they shelved it!

I showed my parents the trailer, and they immediately said that the main character looks just like I did when I was little lmao, because it's true

Because, like, 1)I'm Chicane, and we have the exact same coloring, 2)I had short hair and braces from ages 9-11, 3)I had many many pairs of jean shorts, 4)glasses, lol, and 5)my mom shaved my unibrow every month when I was little

And then, of course, the premise - when I was 8 I had to live with my cousins for Summer (+ one month of school) before we moved in with my grandparents bc *~*technically we were homeless for several years*~*

How many cousins? Well, first with only 3, but then there were problems, so then we moved in with a different tía, who, at the time, had 7 kids.

(if anyone's curious, I have 20 cousins total, with 1 more on the way)

Being in single 3 bedroom house (with 2 makeship rooms in the garage) with 7 cousins, 4 adults, and my little brother was. Um. An experience.

But anyway, after I showed my parents the trailer, I told them this show was supposed to premiere a year ago but had controversies after the theme song dropped, then I showed them the original theme song to see if anything caught their attention.

And sure enough, absolutely nothing. My mom questioned the nickname Nachos, bc it can sound kinda iffy, but nothing else caught their attention.

(and oh, for context, they both grew up in LA, both growing up translating for their parents)

I showed them some clips of why people hated it, and yeah, they were confused bc they would say "oye primos," not "oigan primos." I guess my grandparents weren't concerned with teaching exact grammar at home, more concerned with making sure that my parents were learning english at school

everyone being mad at "terremoto heights" was um. weird. because we're constantly making earthquake jokes, because we're waiting for The Big One, which we know will inevitably screw us over and possible strand us without water and home if/when it comes. but we still joke about it, you know? my whole class made earthquake jokes, and my parents made earthquake jokes when they were in school and they lived through the LA quakes

it makes me wonder if Animaniacs released their "A Quake" song today, would people have been up in arms as much as they have for Primos?

but I guess changing it is fair, if Disney wants to have an international release. even if making earthquake jokes is part of SoCal culture.

they were really surprised about the nickname controversies, because here in SoCal, those nicknames are like. pretty common. yes, even the one that they ended up changing. it's almost as if words have different connotations in different places..........

ANYWAY the biggest thing is that they agreed that the voice actress was out of line (although they think it's obvious that the "shithole" comment was poking fun at trump and that that was being taken out of context in bad faith) but - and this is an inside joke I'm not gonna elaborate on - makes sense considering her name

(IF YOU'RE A MUTUAL OR A TRUSTED FOLLOWER, if you're curious about the joke, I WILL dm you to explain if you ask)

but yeah. it's obvious that this is Disney's answer to The Loud House and The Casagrandes - that being said, all the vitriol towards this shows seems very unfounded. this show just seems very Chicano, moreso than other things I've seen.

and like, as I've explained here, this show is very, heavily relatable to me specifically. none of my white friends understood the pains of living with a bunch of your wild cousins - but multiple of my Chicana friends did. at different schools districts even.

it's just... a lot of the things people are shouting is "bad representation" is literally just... my life. And, apparently, the creator's life, considering it's based on her childhood.

I think it's nice that she made a show about Chicano culture. It does suck that apparently no one knows or even seem to want to know what Chicano culture is.

I just can't help but to wonder if I ever make something about my life, my lived experience... will people call me bad representation? idk.

anyway, I'll probably check the first few episodes out. I'm not sure I'll watch the whole series, since, lately, Disney's shows have been kinda a miss for me. but maybe I'll be surprised. I'm willing to give it a shot

Los Angeles Times Interviews Natasha Kline On How Her Chicano Culture On Los Angeles Inspired Primos As Well Reflecting On The Controversy.

Born in Los Angeles, Kline grew up in various towns throughout the Inland Empire (“Mostly in Fontana,” she says.) She says she was the quiet kid in class with a sketchbook open, concentrating on her drawing, and knew from a young age that she wanted to be an animator.

Kline had longed to make a show like “Primos” since she was a cartoon-loving kid in the ‘90s and realized she wasn’t seeing any chicano families like hers on TV.

“My family, like a lot of L.A. families, is multicultural,” Kline says. “My immediate family is bicultural. And I wanted to see that on the screen — the different skin tones and the different cultural threads that can be woven through in a huge family.”

“Primos” is set in a fictional L.A. neighborhood inspired by the Inland Empire towns that Kline and her art director Ivan Aguirre grew up in. Even the palette in the show is meant to resemble the hues they remember from the hazy summer smog days of the ‘90s, adding the specificity of their experiences and memories.

Because “Primos” is such a personal project, Kline acknowledges that the backlash the show received after its Theme Song were shared last June was “painful, at first.” Among the elements the online audience called out at the time were the theme song’s Spanish being grammatically incorrect, the name of the show’s fictional town being a reference to earthquakes and even the yellow tint of the skyline. The yellow coloring has often been used by Hollywood films and TV shows set in Mexico to establish a sense of otherness.

“I made the show because I did want to connect with my roots and with my heritage,” says Kline. “That was the first time I ever got feedback from the public, so it was very interesting. … But I think the way that people react to things is valid.” Rather than dwell on the negativity, Kline brushed off the experience as just another part of making a show. “That’s the nature of the beast,” says Kline. “When you’re an artist and you’re making something for the world, the hope is that you get feedback. I was getting feedback throughout the whole process … from execs [and] from my crew [and] if I get feedback, I’m going to be thoughtful about it and proceed with that in mind.”

Among the changes the “Primos” team has made since the release of the video last year is to make it more obvious that the show was set in an L.A. neighborhood. Tater’s hometown was originally called Terremoto Heights. The city is now named Hacienda Hills, as an homage to where Kline’s mother grew up.

“For me, this has always been an L.A. show about chicanos living there” Kline says. “So that was something we ended up tailoring because I love this city. I thought, if there’s anything we can lean into to make it more clear that this is what [the show] is about, then let’s do it. That was my original intent anyways.”

The Hollywood Reporter Interviews Natasha Kline About Primos As She Reflects On Growing Up Around The Chicano Culture And How To Listen To Fair Criticism

Natasha Kline got interviewed by The Hollywood Reporter where she reflects on how the chicano culture influenced PRIMOS & adressing the controversy from the Theme Song from Mexicans and Latinos and how she learned from fair criticism to make some changes for the show.

When the opening themed debut last year, it faced a wave of criticism. You’ve since made changes in the show to address some of that feedback. What did you prioritize in that process, and what did you decide to keep? 

The things that I prioritized keeping were things I purposefully built into the show to communicate a very specific story, things that I actually lived and that were part of my actual life growing up. That stuff was easy for me to keep. I understand why it would upset some people, but at the same time, this is the story I wanted to tell. And if these things left, then it wouldn’t be the same story anymore. The things that I was OK with changing were really just names of things, because I think as history has shown, names are really, really important, and the words that we choose are really important. They reflect messages that sometimes even go beyond our meaning. So when I saw that the meaning of the thing that I was creating was starting to change because of a name I had given it, then I was like, well, obviously it’s OK to change that name.  I didn’t want it to tarnish the meaning of the show, which for me, is self-love, the importance of dreams for children, tolerance, acceptance, the support of your family. All of these really warm, shiny messages that I want to send to children were starting to become tarnished by names I had given things. So that’s why I was OK with letting go of those. It was actually kind of interesting and fun to be able to go back and find new names for them, because I actually found names that I felt were better ties to my identity and have a warmer meaning for me. The name of the town changed from Terremoto Heights to Hacienda Hills. My grandmother lived in Hacienda Heights. I loved Buela, I loved her house in Hacienda Heights. To be able to imbue that more into the show has been a joy.

my personal argument for open borders is really simple it just boils down to "i believe restricting human movement and barring certain people from certain places on this earth is a human rights violation"

i mean this. everyone should be able to walk freely between mexico and the united states, fuck an ID, fuck a passport, fuck a visa. it's land, continuous, uninterrupted land. the soil on one side of the fense has the same geologic makeup of the soil on the other. we drew this invisible line in the sand, we can wipe it away with our feet together. it is well past time the world organizes en masse for our freedom of movement.

i don't have all the words right now, but i think this is too general of a statement to be good policy. like it just needs more nuance then this.

like, from an ecological and indigenous rights perspective, there are large swaths of land that need to have travel restrictions placed on them in order to protect the environment and its caretakers from reckless individuals. and of course on the flip side, restricting movement via borders is also bad from an ecological and indigenous rights perspective (there are near countless indigenous groups in Turtle Island alone who are denied access to their ancestral land because it exists on two sides of a border). idk i just think we need to be more thorough in this conversation

it is a settler mindset for sure that borders should supercede the right to migrate, but it is still a colonial mindset to think that you deserve access to the entire world

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I found the link from this little girls instagram she is in Gaza and looking to evacuate

so close!!! as of April 17 we’re less than $2400 to meeting the goal!

A man goes to see his Rabbi in a panic, and he gets there and he says, “Rabbi you’ll never guess what! My son has run away to become a Christian!” And the Rabbi responds, “Well you’ll never guess what! My son has also run away to become a Christian!” So the man asks the Rabbi what to do and the Rabbi says that they should pray to G-d. So they pray and tell him of their plight and G-d replies, “You’ll never guess what!”

- An old Hasidic joke that my Dad likes to tell me

An old Jewish lady ducks into a church one night during a sudden rain shower. The priest comes in while she’s waiting out the rain and says, “you can’t be here, we don’t allow your kind in here.”

So the lady stands up and grabs the baby jesus statue from their nativity scene and says, “come along bubbala, you heard the man, we aren’t allowed in here”

-my grandmother’s favorite joke

A rabbi goes to see his friend the bishop. “Listen,” he says, “there’s something I’ve never quite understood about the Catholic church. it’s hierarchical, right?”

“Right,” says the bishop. 

“So,” says the rabbi, “if you do a really great job as a bishop, you might become…what?”

“Well,” says the bishop, “if I’m fortunate, I might become an archbishop.”

“And if you do a really great job as an archbishop?”

“I suppose, someday, I could even be a cardinal.”

“And if you do a really great job as a cardinal?”

“I guess after that I could, theoretically, become the Pope.”

“And if you do a really great job as the Pope?”

“What would you expect me to become after the Pope?” says the bishop, who’s starting to get a little annoyed. “God Himself?”

The rabbi shrugs. “Well,” he says “one of our boys made it.” 

I know another one.

One night at a nunnery the nuns are woken by loud singing and drunken revelry. They look and see its some Jews celebrating one thing or another just outside.

“You can’t be here!” The nuns say angrily. “This is disrespectful, don’t you know we are the brides of Christ?”

“oh, then that’s no issue, we’re from the groom’s side!”

two jewish men are stranded on an island for several years. when they’re finally rescued, the rescuers notice they’ve built several structures, including three synagogues. they ask them men why three? they shrug and say “that’s the one i go to, that’s the one he goes to, and that’s the one neither of us would be caught dead in!”

a jewish family moves to a new town and struggles to find a school to send their daughter to. the public school is not very good but the only private school is a catholic one. they decide to risk it and send her there. she comes home the first day and tells her dad over dinner “today i learned there’s three gods: the father, the son, and the holy spirit.” the father slams his fist down on the table and shouts “there’s ONE god and we don’t believe in him!”

not really a joke but i think it’s funny: isaac goes to shul to talk to god, i go to shul to talk to isaac.

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“there’s one G-D and we don’t believe in Him” is something my dad has genuinely, seriously told me when I was around seven

Not to get anyone’s hopes up because Prince Freya is definitely heterosexual but:

whenever you’re dealing with a character pretending to be someone of the opposite gender, things can get a little fucky, and Prince Freya did definitely pick the most homoerotic way to deal with it

so like… Julius flirting with Freya who happens to look exactly like the Prince that he devoted his life to and/or was in love with (where is the line between fanatical devotion and love anyway?) is like… He is either flirting with Freya because she looks like the Prince or in spite of the fact that she looks like the Prince, and given the way he acted towards the Prince anyway, neither of those options is super straight

when the soldiers and knights have little oh the Prince~ moments, of course they’re reacting to Freya who is a girl, but they don’t know that

and on the flipside, when female characters do the same thing, they think they’re fawning over the Prince who was a boy but of course it is really Freya who is a girl

and whatever romantic/sexual activity happens between Freya and Julius or Freya and Aleksi, of course they’re both aware that she is a girl but nobody else is so anyone else who sees that is just gonna be like hm. That’s gay

it’s very clearly straight, and it’s going to be straight in the end, it’s just getting there in the gayest way possible and it’s really entertaining

Hi there! I am reaching out because someone sent me a question about how to help Gazan civilians without accidentally helping Hamas or spreading more hate against Israelis. I honestly feel lost on this myself, but as far as I can tell you are someone who has done real activism in Israel. Do you have suggestions for diaspora Jews who want to help fight for peace?

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So a small disclaimer to the Gaza problem. We have 2 main problems with getting aid into Gaza, the first is the limited amount of aid that is allowed in, sending more money cannot make it go in faster. Problem number 2 is that much of the physical aid ends in Hamas's hands or in the black market and there is nothing we can do with that. I have heard recommendations to wait and see who opens a field hospital on the Rafah border crossing, and donate to them. Despite that, here are some charities to help Palestinians both in and out of Gaza.

I will admit, most of my activism is focused on deradicalization on the Israeli side and solidarity work, so I had to ask around for some of those charities. Some of the groups I know of do not currently have an international donation link, so if I get more good ones, I'll make another post.

Gaza:

Medical aid for Palestinians-

Anera-

Doctors without borders-

Palestinians outside of Gaza and Peace movements:

Palestinian red Crescent- they also work in Gaza, but as the main source for Palestinian ambulances in the WB, I put them here.

mistaclim (Looking the occupation the the eye)- this group is helping to protect Palestinians from the illegal settlers

Keshet- this is a big one. they support Bedouin communities in normal times, and now they are working on getting bomb shelters to the unrecognized villages, and providing a mental health first aid line.

standing together- totally biased, as I am a member of this organization.

Women wage peace- a feminist based solidarity group

Haqel- they represents Palestinians in cases related to land ownership and access. there work is still ongoing even during the war

Center for Jewish non Violence - a diaspora org that also does a lot of work in the South Hebron Hills.

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@screamingfromuz Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to write this all up. 💖

I'm kind of glad to hear that everyone does this. Because it means it isn't colonizer bullshit, it's what everyone does. It's just people discovering new things. Everyone goes:

"Oh hey these people have their own style of [language A's word for thing. Say, what do you call it?"

"Oh it's [language B's word for thing]."

"Got it, it's [language B's word for thing] variety [language A's word for thing]"

added to which it is LITERALLY JUST LINGUISTIC SHORTHAND for 

[item] the way [culture] makes it. 

If you don’t want sliced bread, you want bread the way Eastern Indians make it you ask for Roti, not bread. Because Roti is bread THE WAY [EASTERN] INDIANS MAKE IT. Like fuck, it’s not that complicated a concept. 

OF COURSE it’s not colonizer bullshit! It’s just linguistic shorthand!

It’s called reduplication! Repeating a word to denote the prototypical meaning of the word (or for emphasis!) Examples include:

“Do you want potato salad or salad salad?” (Prototypical)

“I’m sorry, we don’t have almond milk, we only have milk milk.” (Prototypical)

jesus fucking christ

"i wish i could do something 😔 / i wish the wga had a kickstarter or a gofundme, i would throw money at it" good news! it's amazing how you can literally go onto the wga strike website or the wgawest linktree from their twitter and find links to support writers and other workers affected by the strike

Source: deadline.com
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