pros of being an extrovert:

- good at making small talk w strangers if necessary

- easily makes friends

- great storyteller

- generally bubbly and fun

cons of being an extrovert:

- if the Daily Attention Quota is not met i will wither and die

Ti vs Ni searching for truth and 'whys'

This is a lot of questions, dude. :P

I saw that last Te vs Ti post and it remind me of something I’ve been wondering for a long time: how can Ti and Ni be differentiated when it comes to looking for the why of something?

The ‘why’ is shorthand / a lazy way to explain what Ti seeks. The reality is: Ti desires to form an internal framework, or theory of reality; it will sometimes ignore or devalue facts which contradict its internal framework.

For example, I often have run-ins with Ti-using typists who are convinced a character is a certain type and will consistently make the same arguments for the type they have concluded he/she is, and ignore any external evidence / examples that prove them wrong, because their interpretation of functions differs from the system someone else is using. The idea that Ti-users are ‘open minded’ is wrong; they are often unwilling to change their internal system of logic and will have a meltdown when forced to contend with something that does not ‘seem to fit’ their system. A friend quoted a passage to me, from Stephen King’s IT, which embodies Ti precisely, when the character says it was not that he was ‘frightened’ by the monster, but OFFENDED by the monster; because ‘those things SHOULD NOT EXIST.’

If you want another example, Sherlock having a total meltdown when he encountered a ‘ghost hound’ in the series is a perfect example of a Ti-dom faced with something that DOES NOT FIT his logical framework of how reality works, so he is flat out rejecting it and/or trying to find a rational reason HOW it could exist, but in a different form than others believe (no ghosts!). Or, the Twelfth Doctor meeting Robin Hood, and batting about insane theories about how he’s a robot, or a hologram, or a puppet, because his foregone Ti-dom conclusion had categorized Robin Hood AS A MYTH, so… that can’t be Robin Hood, Hood is a myth and does not exist. There must be another explanation.

Ni is symbolic perception, by contrast; it wants to get to the heart of something. It can translate something into a personal symbol (a Ni-dom watching Doctor Who and forgetting he’s a character, instead seeing him as the embodiment of intellectual exploration, so which body he is in doesn’t matter that much; he’s still an embodiment of intellectual exploration or whatever); or it can draw an intuitive perception from reading unseen connected threads (to get at someone’s motives), with the result of the high Ni having total faith in their intuitive conclusions and acting on them (and losing face if they are WRONG).

So, how to distinguish between them, when dealing with the ‘why’; Ni is the why of a motivation; Ti is the why of existence.

Usually you see Ti as defined by mental curiosity divorced from a necessary purpose for the information, so we have IXTPs, ENTPs and INFJs as examples of people who easily go into rabbit holes for fun. But since Te is supposedly only interested in knowledge for its use, does that mean xNTJs and ENFJs only try and figure things out to serve Te/Fe purposes?

I’ve known plenty of Ni/Ti users who don’t give a damn about something unless they are interested in it already; that’s the human condition. ;)

The rabbit hole thing typically comes into play when the Ni or Ti (usually, a combination of both) is seen as over-analyzing by a Te-type, who reaches the end of their interest and wants to know WHY THAT MATTERS? ENXJs tend to be as intellectually curious as any other type, but at the end of the day, being dominant judging types, they want to DO SOMETHING with the information, either with Te or Fe. Te will put it into practice, Fe will attain greater understanding of human nature with it, which will help them with people.

Why are INxJs credited as having a lot of intellectual flair and not ENxJs? I see a lot of talk about how ENFJs who are very into knowledge doing it to compensate for their inferior Ti insecurity. And ENTJs not bothering to know more than the absolute necessary since their only interest seems to be “achieving things’. 24/7. This has always confused me because I happen to have known quite a few ENxJs in the academic field who are not in it for the accolades, but for finding personal fulfillment in learning itself. Can it be said then, that this is possible but more an exception to the rule?

Because some (immature) INXJs think they own intellectualism; they don’t. And I doubt Neil deGrasse Tyson (ENFJ) is compensating for inferior Ti. ;)

Is it just because Ni is abstract while Te/Fe is objective, and therefore changing its position from Dominant to Auxiliary makes that much of a difference? I’m thinking of how ISTPs are much more commonly intellectual than ESTPs though both have high Ti, while xNTPs are into it because its coupled with Intuition.

It does make a difference, yes, but not an enormous once – hence why so many people are confused as to whether they are the introverted or extroverted versions of their type.

- ENFP Mod

So I see a lot about Ti users rejecting facts that contradict their internal understanding and having a meltdown upon finding an error in their system and I've always felt those descriptions to be very exaggerated. 

Sure those things happen, but when I find a flaw in the system I've devised, rather than crying and rejecting the world I quickly begin tweaking my system and making small adjustments to account for the new information, rather than throwing away my entire understanding. 

And when it comes to rejecting "facts" that disagree with the worldview, that's a lot more situational as far as why and how that happens, but I think that's less of outright denying said "facts" and more about the investigation of the truth behind the "fact." 

What's the source? Is there potential bias in the source? Could the source be misinformed? What might have led to this misinformation? And if it checks out on all of the above, then it can be considered a fact rather than a "fact," and finally the question is: what is incorrect about my understanding that led to this conflict of thought?

I have decided on a new constellation. I call it The Bees. If you look up at the night sky and see all those sparkly dots, congratulations. You see The Bees. I have just made astrology 10000x easier, you’re welcome.

those born under the sign of the bees:

Cognitive functions explained via spongebob

Disclaimer: yes, these are stereotypes

Se

Si

Ne

Ni

Ti

Te

Fi

Fe

i made an aesthetic generator now you can discover urself

ghost queer. yes.

Nature priest??

Stormy lolita

sad mermaid

60s lolita

BLOOD MOON hippie

Victorian memecore

Garbage demon

Egg ghost

Cactus farmer

Listen,, it’s not that i “work well/better under pressure” it’s that i will not work at all unless i am under pressure

for all intents and purposes, as much as i criticize sx blinds, they are objectively some of the best and most dependable friends I’ve ever had. sx people are flighty and ruled by what they want to do, sx blinds are grounded and don’t have that factor to them.

I can always count on them to keep me company if I need it, and to make the effort that many sx people just don’t feel like making? Regardless of their reasons for doing so, I never feel like I can’t depend on an sx blind’s friendship. Yes they annoy me and I poke fun at them and they seem sort of incomprehensible beyond reason but at the end of the day it doesn’t actually matter

Ten reminders

1. The first reminder: don’t forget to get new supplies of that thing you are just about to run out of.

2. Second: remember to wake up at an appropriate time for that thing you were going to do. For example, if you are attending the founding of Vladivostok you should set your alarm for July, 1850. You may need to use that button on the back to get the correct setting.

3. Third: remember that there are metal-tipped mountains on Venus which are higher than any mountain on Earth.

4. Fourth: remember to walk that thing that needs walking, I am not quite sure what the thing is, it might be a dog or an idea or a romance, and the walking might be literal or metaphorical but anyhow: that thing is sitting at your feet and panting and you might want to give it a bit of exercise or it’ll be keeping you up all night.

5. Then too, remember that song, the one that filled up your whole head for days and you couldn’t stop little bits of it slipping out of your mouth from time to time? Just asking.

6. Sixth: have you remembered that cats’ feet have little beans on the bottom so far today? If not, this is your official reminder to remember this.

7. Seventh: don’t forget to talk to that person you were going to talk to, they would probably be happy to hear from you.

8. Also, eighth, just to remind you, you have a tongue in your mouth and if you think about it you can just sort of feel it sitting there.

9. Ninth: this is a reminder that one day you will look at the unrolling horizon and feel a sudden cloud lifting, a cloud you were never even quite sure was there, and behind it unexpected joy.

10. And finally: remember that most things, really, turn out OK, and most people are at least alright and at best amazing, and hidden within each awesome thing there are usually at least six more curled up like woodlice.

new meme idea

photoshopping the nintendo logo onto things that nintendo clearly did not make. for example:

what is the point of this meme

There is some truth in this, I definitely agree with the so-blind part ( and I am both an Soblind and a horrible friend, though I’m working on it) and the part where sxblind love is unconditional and easier to maintain. Some of my best and deepest friend relationships were with sxes, but they were so high maintenance and very conditional and eventually blew up horribly. Whereas some of my longest and best friends are sxblinds, mostly because I’m not special but I’m still consistently treated nicely and fairly and it’s very low maintenance. So as a connection I will always feel deeper for non sxblinds, but as friends I certainly value my sxblinds. And as an Soblind I’ve never got that stereotype that soblinds find each other. I’m a horrible friend already, I don’t need that multiplied. How is that gonna work ever.

The #1 thing that the MBTI community misunderstands about the cognitive functions.

I feel like I need to say make this point, because I see a lot of the people in this group (and in MBTI boards in general) make this extremely common error when they approach Jungian typology, and I feel compelled to correct it. A lot of people view the cognitive functions (Ne, Ni, Te, Ti, Fe, Fi, Se, Si) as a set of personality traits, or a tool or skill set that can be sharpened and honed, or used as needed; but that isn’t how the functions (or our personalities) work. All the functions are is a set of paradigms that dictate in what order our brains place a priority on certain types of external and internal sensory input - and your brain does this instantaneously and automatically; it isn’t a conscious decision on your part at all. All this means is that, in its natural state, your brain is placing a higher premium on certain types of information that on others. In the case of Se, for example, an Se-dom’s brain is, first and foremost, placing the highest priority on objective sensory data gathered through the five senses (smell, sound, touch, taste, and smell) - when they’re eating ice cream, their brain is, fire and foremost, involved in the sensory pleasures of what they’re eating; the pleasant, creamy coolness of the sundae on their tongue; the tangy, quasi-soggy under-taste of strawberry; the juxtapositional crunch of the waffle cone compared to the softness of the ice cream; the the ripe, sweet berry scent wafting into their nose, fitting with specificity into their olfactory glands. 

“But when I smell, sound, or taste something, then doesn’t mean I’m using Se, too?” you ask; and the answer is that yes, you are, but that doesn’t mean that your brain is automatically prioritizing that information over other types of data. For example: say you’re an INTP who is eating a strawberry ice cream cone, too. Yes, that INTP is experiencing all of the same smells, tastes, temperatures, and textures associated with eating ice cream as the Se-dom was (though perhaps not as intensely); but his brain is also likely thinking back to the last time he had ice cream, and recalling all of the sensory experiences involved with that memory as well. Maybe, for example, as he’s eating, he will recall the sound of the ice cream truck driving past (Si), and then start wondering what it would be like to create an ice cream shop that exclusively makes unusual combinations of flavors, like Bertie Bott’s Every Flavor Beans from Harry Potter (Ne). In this way, his brain has prioritized all of these other types of experiences to him over top of Se. And so when he recalls this memory later on, what he will remember are things related to his Ti, and his Ne, and his Ti, and his Fe; but when the Se-dom recalls it later, he will mainly be recalling all of the different sensory experiences that the memory evoked in him - the smell of the ice cream, the way it tasted, the texture of it, the temperature, how hot it was outside where they were eating it, how many and which of his friends were there, what they were all wearing, and so on. Same memory, but their brains are placing a priority on completely different types of data in order to categorize external input and make sense of the world around them.

The point that I’m trying to make here is that functions are not tools. They’re not toys, they’re not personality traits, they’re not skill sets that we can pick up and put down when we’re done using them. They are psychological paradigms that simply describe the order in which our brains prioritize certain types of information. (And this is certainly up for debate - I’m by no means an expert, people argue about this all the time, and even Jung himself didn’t seem to know the answer to this - but this is why I believe that it isn’t possible for people to be more than one type, or to be able to use both Te and Ti or Ne and Ni with equal proficiency. There are other reasons why I believe this too, but that’s a bit of a different topic and I’m getting lazy, so… bye!)

Another  thing I’d like to add that I feel is very important to make known is that YOUR MBTI TYPE DOES NOT DICTATE WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE! Being of a certain type does not make you kind, it does not make you intelligent, it does not make you creative or athletic or a poet or philosophical or profound or ambitious or honest or authentic or sweet or a good person. Those are CHOICES (or personality traits), and ANYBODY can be empathetic, or genuine, or compassionate, or selfish. MBTI says absolutely nothing about the kind of person that you are EXCEPT for the way in which your brain absorbs, interprets, and responds to environmental stimuli in its natural state. So please don’t get discouraged when you read the INTJ Celebrity Types page and see five or six terrorists on there, or go to the INFP page and realize that half of them have committed suicide. That DOESN’T have to be your life just because you share the same type. You are who you are, and who you want to be; and MBTI tells you absolutely nothing about whether you’re a kink, thoughtful, perceptive, open-minded, or empathetic individual. Be who you want to be, and don’t let MBTI hold you back from being who you want.

Thoughts, opinion, and rebuttals welcome, as always!

Me: I’m not here to reveal personal info

Also Me: Hey guys welcome to typology I’m a 269 so/sp which means my core fear and worst nightmare is being unloved by those around me and I live in constant panic that I’m not truly able to connect with people nice to meet you internet stranger 🙃