I really wish Tumblr had a mute feature like Twitter has, sometimes it feels mean to BLOCK someone because they haven't done or said anything bad, but you would really rather not see the type of content they post, but at the same time I don't want to bar them from seeing or interacting with MY content if they want to.
You're not embarrassed being an old woman and being in tumblr? I would rather die that my grannies have an actual account on tumblr for celebrities rho
Why would I be embarrassed for having interests I enjoy? My guess is that you’re really, really young. And that maybe you don’t actually have solid relationships with adults who have lives outside of parenting or work. But I hope for you that when you’re my age you have hobbies that bring you happiness. And that by that point you realize that trying to shame someone for being an adult only makes you look too immature to be in adult spaces, which Tumblr is.
When I was 20, I loved music, making art, writing and reading good stories, fashion, talking about popular culture, making friends, going to concerts… You’d be surprised how little changes when you’re my age. I just have way more money and time to enjoy those things now. I’m only 55. I’m not dead. I’m also not a “granny”, but even if I was, I’d probably still like all of those things.
Ageism isn’t cute, love. And I sure don’t ever see people telling men they shouldn’t go to football games or have their little “fantasy football leagues” or wear their favorite player’s merch. For every comment you guys like to say is misogynistic (but isn’t), this is one that really reeks of it.
What she said. ^^^ I am well over 60, I have been in fandom since I was 12, one way or another, and I ain’t leaving. And misogyny is never attractive.
I’ll be 60 soon and ha ha ha I’m in fandom forever.
(Enjoy your time with other children anon. And I promise you, they’re not creating all the content you love.)
Just turned 70 this last May.
I am a fan. I’ve been a fan of one or another book series, TV show or comic since I was eight. I’ve been in organized, convention-going and print-based fandoms since I was old enough to vote. My generation invented online fandoms, and I’ve been in them from almost the very beginning of online. I’ve been on CompuServe and AOL and LiveJournal and the other earliest platforms where fandom congregated: Tumblr’s merely one of the newer ones.
If some adorable, entitled, wet-behind-the-ears wee nonny thinks they’re going to roll up and have a little self-righteous fun shaming some senior Tumblrina into buggering off of here because she’s An Old—and should therefore (by their way of thinking) be embarrassed for enjoying the manifestation of her continuing passion for the best in media along with others, in long-standing community— Well, they’ve got another think coming.
…And oh yeah: You don’t like it? Then just get off our lawn, sweetiecakes. We were here long before you were, and (if you’re so easily embarrassed) we’ll still be here long after you’re gone. :)
(waves) (And hey, hi there, Atlin!)
Yup.
#I was told I was childish for liking Pokemon by other children when we were all 8 years old#that’s how ridiculous this gets#so I’ve always known this was bullshit and just did my thing#I’m not as old yet but when I am I aspire to be like them#you can take my fandom stuff and my hobbies from my cold dead hands so cry about it#fandom stuff#important(via@alihedgie) an Excellent Addition uwu uwu
Much younger person chiming in here but still in my 30’s (which for some people is STILL too old I guess?), but what’s hilarious about people thinking someone is “too old” for fandom or being on places like tumblr, etc, etc…is that in some cases, these are the people that MADE your fandom. People who MADE the shows and games and music and movies and everything you enjoy or are part of a fandom of, are often made by people much older than you. Obviously we’ve seen a new rush of younger creators breaking through in the last several years but still like…who do you think made all your favorite shows youve been watching since you were a kid? Not someone your age, lemme tell you what.
Here is another version without the fence. Tbh, I prefer this one.
It just takes a second to turn on "Prevent third-party sharing" for AI training:
- On Desktop: "Blog Settings" then scroll almost all the way down
- On Mobile: Click the Settings gear icon, scroll down to "Visibility"
Repeat for each main or secondary blog
Hi :3 !!
here flowar, I wanted to ask a question to the shipper community in general since I would like to find out some things..especially about the ships that surround the fugoshis of the fandom 🫵
Well, the issue that I would like to find out is very simple since I have recently seen problems between both sides of the ship between hyuga and wakashimazu, I cannot understand the reason for so many fights..Could it be because of the different representations of the ship ? I have seen that on the Japanese side several aspects of the appearance are changed on both sides !! And that is very confusing 😿
If someone can explain the subject to me, I would greatly appreciate it 💕
Hi there!
I think I can answer your questions, having been involved in both the JP and Western fandoms for over 12 years. During this time, I've gathered valuable insights about the KojiKen (Hyuga × Wakashimazu) and KenKoji (Wakashimazu × Hyuga) camps.
The explanation will be somewhat extensive, so brace yourself!
Firstly, it's crucial to acknowledge the significant impact these two couples had on the yaoi and BL genres. They experienced a peak in popularity in the early '80s, laying the foundation for modern gay shipping in manga and anime, primarily catering to a female audience. A fierce rivalry emerged, with Japanese shippers from both factions engaging in debates during events like Comiket, vying for which couple best aligned with the original work and characterizations.
"I cannot understand the reason for so many fights..Could it be because of the different representations of the ship ?"
You've touched upon a critical point that largely explains the discord between the two shipper groups!
As you've noticed, there are glaring differences in character portrayals based on the producing fanworks group. The designation of one character as the seme or uke alters everything – from physical appearance to personality and, of course, the dynamics of the relationship. Western shippers tend to be less rigid in assigning top and bottom roles to characters, unlike Japanese and other East Asian populations, where these roles are considered standard in fictional couples.
Returning to Japanese fans, they are predominantly divided into two groups due to opposing views on Hyuga and Wakashimazu, fostering deep disagreement and rivalry. Of course, there are individuals who appreciate both ships, and more power to them – they've hit the jackpot!
Your sentence (quoted above) references a single ship, but in reality, KojiKen and KenKoji are so distinct that it would be more accurate to speak of two ships, despite utilizing the same characters.
I want to emphasize that shippers from both groups may find common ground, as opinions within each group vary, and vice versa; disagreements exist within the same group. For instance, I exclusively ship KojiKen, yet I don't agree with certain representations of the couple and characters, especially those made by young Western/non-Japanese shippers.
Regarding the conflict, I would say it has become almost obsolete compared to the '80s and '90s. Time has passed since the creation of KojiKen and KenKoji, and many shippers moved on and gained perspective. The Japanese shipping fandom, primarily composed of women in their forties to sixties, has matured significantly, avoiding futile disputes. Additionally, people can filter content they don't want to see and block/mute users on social media, contributing to a decrease in ship wars. Generally, the Japanese are polite, respectful, and tend to avoid conflicts, unlike some overseas fans who may become vindictive over trivial matters.
Personally, although I detest conflicts and try to stay out of ship wars, I remain straightforward when interacting with the non-JP fandom. Some individuals struggle to comprehend my stance of exclusively loving KojiKen and not tolerating its reverse ship, leading to misunderstandings, as happened a few months ago with a KenKoji shipper who took offense when I blocked them to avoid seeing fanworks related to that pairing, even though I had nothing against the user.
In any case, I've been part of various fandoms and enjoy several pairings, but I've never encountered such rivalry and animosity as with KojiKen and KenKoji. These two couples evoke extremely polarized and passionate opinions. To illustrate how divisive they are, if you gather all those who ship Hyuga and Wakashimazu, based on my observations, roughly 50% ship KojiKen and 50% ship KenKoji. I've never seen anything like it!
I mentioned earlier that the conflicts are not as intense as before, but shippers, regardless of their side, remain just as passionate about their opinions as in the '80s.
TL;DR:
- The conflicts between the factions stem from their completely opposite interpretations of the characters and their relationship, leading to a lack of consensus.
- The drastic changes in character aspects based on shippers are partly due to the seme/uke dynamic and, once again, fan interpretation, irrespective of the shipper group.
Edit: Shipping men together ≠ fujoshi.
I did it in my drawing style, I have wanted to draw this scene for a long time, don't let it be known that I have been too lazy to draw Katagiri.
After almost 40 years of waiting, the hospital/car scene has finally been adapted!!
The last picture has so much meme/shitpost potential 😂😂😂
okay so yeah I did not find any kojiken fanfiction so I'll be writing one myself cause why not? I have no clue on how to use ao3 so until I figure that out I'm probably going to post some here (when I have actual time and inspiration to write one since I haven't written a fanfiction in a year), so if anyone who might be interested in reading that has some request/suggestions I would glady take that to gain some inspiration
Edit: I deleted my original reblog, because I didn't know that the person I was replying to was underage. I made it clear on my bio that I don't want to interact with minors people if possible, because I write about adult/smutty themes. Thank you for your understanding!
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
- References to KojiKen and KenKoji shipwars.
- Do not read if one of the couples triggers you.
- This post contains a bit of my personal opinions regarding the pairings.
HOLY SHIT, THIS IS SO CATHARTIC
*instant new wallpaper*
Captain Tsubasa S2 - Junior Youth: The Importance of Hyuga and Wakashimazu's Hospital and Car Scenes
While the Shin Captain Tsubasa OVAs were of high quality, in my humble opinion, they omitted several scenes probably due to time constraints. One particular scene that I eagerly wait to see animated, either in today's episode or the next two, is the one where Hyuga visits Wakashimazu in the Hamburg hospital and their subsequent conversation in the car. While not essential to the main storyline, this scene provides crucial insights into the bond between Hyuga and Wakashimazu.
When reading the manga or watching the anime, there are few scenes centered solely on Hyuga and Wakashimazu.
Most of their encounters happen on the football field, where words are scarce. The exceptions are few, with the third Nankatsu-Toho finals being a standout. But still, questions linger: What lies beyond the surface of their camaraderie? Do they share interests beyond football? Can their contrasting personalities coexist peacefully? The answers are found in two key scenes within the Junior Youth arc: the hospital and car moments, which offer a glimpse into their off-field interactions and shed light on their dynamic.
To truly grasp the significance of these scenes, let's revisit what led up to them. Wakashimazu injures his hand, defending against Schneider's powerful shot, requiring a trip to Hamburg Hospital.
Meanwhile, Japan faces a humiliating defeat against Schneider and Wakabayashi. After the match, a heated altercation erupts between Hyuga and Wakabayashi, resulting in a physical confrontation. Following these events, a disheartened Hyuga relinquishes his captaincy.
Wakashimazu, accompanied by Katagiri, leaves the hospital and finds his captain waiting for him, battered but smiling. Hyuga had gone out of his way to be by Wakashimazu's side.
The two young men share a car ride, during which, for the first time in Captain Tsubasa history, we witness a conversation between Toho's captain and his goalkeeper.
The first question that arises from this scene is why Hyuga decided to visit Wakashimazu. The answer lies in his genuine concern for his goalkeeper and the emotional comfort Wakashimazu provides him. Normally, Hyuga is known for his fiery, arrogant demeanor and suspicion of others, but his attitude changes dramatically in Wakashimazu's presence. He exhibits a side of his personality reserved for those close to his heart—smiling, caring, relaxed, and even vulnerable.
In return, Wakashimazu reciprocates, displaying an even more surprising and blatant change in behavior. His expression is entirely relaxed and, dare I say, CUTE when he interacts with Hyuga. This departure from his usual stoic, composed demeanor, with furrowed brows, is very notable.
YO LOOK AT THIS ↑↑↑ who's that angry young man on the left and this young maiden in love on the right KEK
While we've seen him smile at Hyuga during the national middle school tournament final, this goes beyond that.
In addition to his gentle smile and soft demeanor, this manifests in his choice of words as he attempts to console a deeply disheartened Hyuga. However, these nuances often evade translation, underscoring the intricacies of the Japanese language.
Captain Tsubasa exemplifies the subtleties of the Japanese language perfectly.
For exemple, Hyuga addresses Wakashimazu informally, using his last name without honorifics or "omae/お前", a second-person singular pronoun considered familiar in this context.
In contrast, Wakashimazu uses "keigo/敬語", a polite language form, to address Hyuga due to his position as captain and out of immense respect. He primarily calls him "captain/キャプテン", occasionally using "anta/あんた" (a polite second-person singular pronoun in this context), and very rarely addressing him as "Hyuga-san/日向さん", using the last name with an honorific suffix.
The hospital and car scenes between Hyuga and Wakashimazu offer invaluable insights into the characters' relationship, personalities, and the subtleties of their interactions.
While not central to the main storyline, these moments enrich the Captain Tsubasa experience and provide fans with a deeper appreciation of the intricate dynamics between Hyuga and Wakashimazu's unspoken camaraderie or more if you like to interpret their relationship this way.