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Drosera Sundews - she/her - Dutch - Doesn't know how the sun works and is not sorry
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loekvugs

I had this idea for a looping animation in which a single dot has a pretty long loop, but the animation as a whole is much shorter. Because of the repetition this animation is only 1 second long!

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mikanis

This is the most satisfying visual stim I’ve ever seen, I found the end point

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calder

vegans make peace with honey

no shut up do it

vegans will pretend not to hear when natives tell them their agave products are unsustainable because they have whimsical feelings about, and i cannot stress this enough, the freedom of hive insects

Honey is literally murder but go off

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kasaron

Prove it.

They literally puke their guts up to make your honey

I have not seen any evidence tonsugges they are harmed or die in the process of production. They do regurgitate the nectar as part of the process to concentrate it into honey (an interesting process) but they do not suffer any injury during this process. If they did, the cost to produce honey, which is done naturally as a measure to survive over winter and through times of lower availability, would outweigh the benefits. If you kill several bees to produce enough honey to make one more bee, It makes no sense. Any animal that did that would die, even with human intervention.

Do you have any sources which suggest otherwise? I’d be interested to hear of this (relatively publicly available) information was false or misunderstood.

Bee farmers use whats called a honey maker. It’s a crude devices. It similar to a meat grinder. They force the bees in and grind them up. What comes out is a paste. That paste is later filtered into what we know as honey

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hematite2

This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read

@zoologicallyobsessed please show us pics of your bee grinder

they might be falsely thinking about a honey extractor machine. but all these do is you place the beehive frames inside and a motor rotates it at a speed that removes the honey, which is then tapped through a tap at the bottom. 

…do they think they put bees in that and spin them around until they vomit…?

bee carnival

bad and naughty bees get put into the b e e c e n t r i f u g e to extract their honey

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bastlynn

Vegans coming after beekeepers is one of my major teeth grinding annoyances. For many reasons, because there’s so many lies. And to go one step further because it’s such a waste. You see, the strongest vegan argument is that they don’t want to exploit animals or take from them without their consent.

… but… Bees consent. NO. I’M NOT KIDDING.

How? Bee hives aren’t kept on leashes. They’re outside, the bees can travel miles every day. They follow their queen. Who is also outside, not on a leash, and can travel miles every day. If she doesn’t like the hive for any reason - for example: it got too hot, too cold, too messy, too filled with sugary stuff and they need more space… then the queen leaves. And with her the hive.

The queen stays in the hive because the hive is the best place to live. Period. Done. End of. If the hive is staying with the beekeeper it’s because the keeper is doing their job correctly and keeping them happy because the bees can, and do, leave bad beekeepers.

Of all the animals we have domesticated as livestock, bees are the ones you can most easily argue are consenting participants in their keeping.

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mystical-mew

Here it is. The bee post is back

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korrasera

I feel compelled to explain the misconception part for anyone who doesn’t know anything about beekeeping and finds any of this confusing. This might be a little redundant, but I’m scratching an itch.

  1. Harvesting honey does not murder bees.
  2. The device pictured above does not mash up bees or their hives.
  3. There’s no ethical concern when it comes to eating honey, it’s totally ethical as food is concerned.

Bees manufacture honey using pollen. They store it in the cells of their hive, where it’s used as food for the colony, particularly the larvae growing into the next generation of bees.

When you harvest honey, you remove parts of the hive that are being used to store the honey, without taking any bees along for the ride. Those parts of the hive are then put into a device, like the centrifugal extractor shown above by gemstone-gynoid, where the parts are spun really fast to pull extract the honey. The honey gets collected on the walls of the extractor, drips down, and can then be filtered and bottled for human use.

So.

It turns out that bees love making honey and can make more of it than they’d ever need. It also turns out that beekeepers taking care of hives and harvesting their honey keeps bees healthy and thriving, more so than they’d normally accomplish on their own. And we really need bees healthy and thriving because they help us grow an astonishing amount of food by pollinating plants.

Like, there’s no need to have a conversation about this, anyone who claims that harvesting honey requires that you kill bees is lying. Either they don’t know anything about beekeeping and are just repeating a lie someone else told them, or they know that they’re lying and they’re just straight up trying to deceive people. Neither is a good look.

So, there is a situation in where bees are exploited. But it is not for honey production, surprisingly, but rather for the production of fruit in greenhouses.

If you want to grow as much fruit as possible, a greenhouse is a good option. You can produce year round in a greenhouse. You can add extra CO2, grow-lights, the whole shebang. A capitalists dream.

But, a lot of the fruit we eat requires the plants to be pollinated, and pollinators can't freely enter or exit a greenhouse. So how can you get your fruit bearing plants pollinated? For all our talk of robot bees, real bees remain the cheapest option.

Putting a beehive in a greenhouse seems like a logical step. Problem is, bees do terrible in greenhouses. It has to do with the way they navigate. Outside they use sunlight but the way sunlight is re-fractured/polarized by glass disorients them (not sure how this works, I'm a biologist, not a physicist). They also supposedly will fly into the glass and injure themselves.

Generally, our precious honeybees aren't used for this, but rather bumblebees, that don't get as disoriented by being contained in a box made of glass. However, this is still not a sustainable model.

I found this interesting site by a supplier of bumblebees for greenhouse growing that mentions the bumblebee hives have a lifespan of 12 weeks after being placed in a greenhouse. Here's a another source mentioning the 12 weeks for a bumblebee colony, and what buyers are supposed to do if they want to use bumblebees and pesticides simultaneously. Supposedly, honey bees do worse than bumblebees, so a honeybee hive probably won't even last 12 weeks.

In addition to that, some pollinators work better for certain crops than others. I know (from a local beekeeper, no shareable source) that for certain crops they do use honeybee hives.

So... in this weird instance animals are exploited in the production of a vegan product. While 'non-vegan' honey production by humans is more akin to a symbiotic relationship. Again showcasing how many of these issues are so much more complicated than we can see on the surface while reading the labels of products in supermarkets.

I think the main takeaway is to just stop fighting each other over definitions and buzzwords (no pun intended). We're all in this together and there's a lot of different ways to contribute to a better world for us and all the lifeforms around us.

Personally, I'd argue that buying local and seasonal products is a great way to make positive change. Cutting meat and animal products out of your diet is also, still, a great one, but make sure to keep doing your research in regards to how the things you eat are produced (as mentioned above, even if no animals were harmed, products made with child labor are not a better alternative, and if a rainforest had to be cleared for your soy beans you may be better of buying local eggs for protein).

Eventually, going from being a consumer to a producer is the galaxy brain step. Not just growing your own food (not everyone is in the right space/climate for that), but for example learning to mend clothes, maintain equipment, weave, work with wood, leather or clay, or even how to make specific, plastic parts via 3D printer. Our global production/transport chains and capitalist systems are beginning to fail us, so the time is coming where we have to re-learn how to do things ourselves and de-globalize as best we can. Imagine, if everyone in your surroundings/community took on one old-school life skill, would we still be as reliant on global production chains?

It is also a deeply fulfilling experience. So why not learn something new you can use to help yourself and your community? Perhaps you could even take up beekeeping. I hear that when done well, it is a very good experience for all organisms involved.

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lotrmusical

never let anyone tell you that trawling through mediocre victorian poetry isn't worth it. we just happened upon an absolute BANGER of a worm poem. go read it or else 🪱🪱🪱

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the reviews are in... glad everyone's enjoying song of the worm

[id: tumblr tags reading 'dude This Fucking Rules', 'holy fucking shit! that was legit so cool?', 'holy shit that is fucking metal', 'oh this fucks severely', 'yeah no this fucking SLAPS', 'yo this RULES']

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geothefafa

tragic. they found an angel stcuk tangled in the telephone wires outsside your house. sorruy. yeah we dont know how to get it out cus anyone who approached the divine light of their holy aura got obliterated. yeah we forgot their names. it'll probably get free sooner or later. dont go outside

interesting point! lets not stare at it for too long okay!!

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it's rotten work, but without the rot nothing can grow

it's rotten work but decay is an essential part of the cycle of death and rebirth

Its rotten work. Its composting. Your green waste is a valuable resource. Get worms, grow flowers.

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cooperhoward

i just found out merriam webster has a time traveler feature that tells you some of the words that were “born” the same year as you. it’s pretty neat yall should do this

i was born with vape and i will die with vape

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weirdo-city

Cyber sex and mixtape. I’ll fucking take it.

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bumblewyn

i think i win with both “bootylicious” and “bottom surgery”

Genderqueer and Japanese Giant Hornet. I can work with that.

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jaubaius

Anatolian shepherd dog puppy in training

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weaselle

they live with the herd and the herd accepts them as part of the herd, just, “that’s our Dave, he’s a bit strange but we love him, knew him when he was just a lamb you know” and the dog just lives among them as one of them but then if a wolf or somethin comes along the herd is like “O Reely? Have you met our Dave” and the wolf gets to make the acquaintance of Dave, 200 lbs of teeth and muscle who believes the wolf is there to kill his actual family and is pretty upset about it. 

that is the difference between a shepherd guarding dog and a shepherd herding dog. Herding dogs are NOT part of the herd, they use modified hunting techniques to bully the herd into moving where they are meant to go. They are built for speed and agility, often as small as 35 to 45 lbs, and are absolutely no match for a wolf. Plus, the herd doesn’t trust them, is suspicious of them, which is how the herding works

@weaselle That makes me really curious: could you have both? I don’t have sheep but I could imagine, if I were a shepherd I would want both my flock safe but also my flock in the place where they are supposed to be.

If you have a flock with a guardian dog, and you send a herding dog to get them to another place, will the guardian attack the herder?? Or will the guardian be herded alongside the sheep???

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These are… actually pretty inspiring.

Cool.

Forever reblog.

“you are never taller than when you stand up for yourself”

thats just awesome

“You’re the result of 4 billion years of evolutionary success; F***ING ACT LIKE IT.”

My fave right there.

When life gets harder, you must have just leveled up.

Inspirational fucking post right there.

The last one is my favorite. 

Always reblog Courage Wolf!

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whatevsman16

“Bottle your emotions. Molotov Cocktails.”

That was my life moto for a while

This is missing my personal fave so I’m just going to add it real quick.

Ah, the classics…

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pietriarchy

great job everyone lets hit the showers

Not again

gentle reminder that you can’t get this kind of nonsense from any other site

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lady-byleth

it always comes back to skyrim somehow.

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