the search for the official lesbian flag

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We all know we're suffering from too-many-flags syndrome, so this is an attempt at collecting them all and making a larger, group decision. Please spread this around!! The worst thing would be for it to stay confined on tumblr. // Only lesbians contribute, please, but accessibility suggestions are welcome from anyone. Trans and nb lesbians welcome.
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been doing some research and looking at results from other polls:

here (with 3000+ responses) here (with 2000+ responses) 

this flag has also been the winner there:

I also think it’s important to note that it’s (1) similar to the already-popular lipstick flag, so it would be easy to recognize, and (2) has been seen a lot around websites already. At least by me and others i’ve talked to. 

I”ve sent emails to some news sources talking about our endeavors and I’m really excited to see the future!

update: @taqwomen​ made a wonderful, simplified flag out of this, bringing it down to 5 stripes that makes it easier to replicate

personally, i find this to be the winner and what i’m going to be using from now on. thank you for all your input!

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Anonymous asked:

Granted i know it was voted on but maybe the 5 stripe one you reblogged should be the official? Bc having 2 separate flags for online and in person is confusing and unsolves the problem, and would make it difficult to catch on (and the 5 stripe is less cluttered and easy to reproduce so it checks the boxes of the 7 stripes popularity but meets the importance of something easily reproducable). Or if not something to be decided on its own, maybe a second poll abt preference between 7/5/3 stripes?

yeAh honestly i’m suuper up for the 5 stripes one. i’m gonna be using that from now on, and i might just like. make a post about that i suppose.

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Okay, since I’m going to be making pride stuff using this flag, I’m should make a post to formally introduce it.

This is a lesbian flag proposal that I created last week. 

But mod k, what’s wrong with the current lesbian flag?

Well, there are a couple of things:

  • When that flag was first created in 2010, it was created as the lipstick lesbian flag. It was created in response to that fact that gay men have a bear flag, a leather flag, etc. Here’s AfterEllen referring to it as the lipstick lesbian flag and talking about how it wasn’t widely used in late 2015. 
  • In 2016, a group of people decided it would be appropriate to remove the lips and basically pretend that the pink flag represented the whole community. However, because it was created as the lipstick lesbian flag, it’s indisputable that it was not designed to include lesbians who are butch, futch, or otherwise gender nonconforming.
  • As a result, a lot of lesbians don’t like the pink flag, and many creators have found it merchandise with that flag design sell so poorly that they don’t even make enough off them to continue to pay to list them on online vending sites. 
  • Additionally, the six different shades of pink can be extremely difficult to source in things like thread and material. The conclusion is that merchandise with the pink flag on it is more expensive to make than other flags and sells a lot worse.

But mod k, there are a lot of other flag proposals out there. Why did you need to create your own?

There are a lot of flag proposals out there, and I like several of them a lot. I’m geniunely not trying to trash anyone else’s design. Here’s why I made my own:

  • Many of the proposals I’ve seen fall into the same trap of having several stripes in different shades of the same color, which makes them expensive to make into any tangible product, including a physical flag.
  • Despite the fact that most of the people proposing flags acknowledge that the group most alienated by the pink flag is gender nonconforming lesbians, many of the proposals still include multiple pink stripes and/or a lot of pastels. While I appreciate that we were at least considered when those designs were created, a lot of them still look very feminine.
  • I’m just not ever going to feel like I’m genuinely included by a flag with two or three shades of pink on it, even if there is a stripe that purportedly represents butches, you know? 
  • As long as we have a flag that a lot (dare I say most?) of the lesbian community can’t relate to, it’s not going to take off.

So mod k, what does your flag mean?

Thanks for asking! I created this flag by using the compliment of each color on the rainbow flag and rearranging them in this order. I made some tweaks to the colors. Two of the initial six compliments were very similar shades of yellow, so I changed one of them to the same shade of purple that’s on the rainbow flag. I also lightened the yellow and darkened the gold so they would contrast more, and I darkened the blue and green to try to minimize eye strain. 

This flag’s relationship to the rainbow flag analogizes the relationship between the gay men’s and lesbian communities. We’re two sides of the same coin. We’re all gay and we should have solidarity with each other, but we don’t look the same or have the same needs and we don’t share all of the same history. I really like that this flag references the rainbow flag because that’s the flag that we’ve united under for decades. Personally, I don’t want to switch to something completely different. This flag represents the lesbian community as being distinct from the gay men’s community, but it maintains some continuity and it pays homage to the flag under which we’ve found a home for forty years. 

Anyway, you’re all welcome to use this in art/on products/whatever. I’m just going to remind you that the creator is an arospec nonbinary lesbian who would rather their creation not be used to disrespect any of their identities. 

mod k

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The survey will now stay open until the 11th, this is because we opened it as day late

Please spread this!!

Please participate in this survey, and please spread this!!!! Check the flags I reblogged earlier if you want the meanings of some of them!

Hey! I’ve added the meanings for the flags that I was able to find under the cut!

Thank you for this addition!!

All lesbians please vote!

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been doing some research and looking at results from other polls:

here (with 3000+ responses) here (with 2000+ responses) 

this flag has also been the winner there:

I also think it’s important to note that it’s (1) similar to the already-popular lipstick flag, so it would be easy to recognize, and (2) has been seen a lot around websites already. At least by me and others i’ve talked to. 

I”ve sent emails to some news sources talking about our endeavors and I’m really excited to see the future!

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Anonymous asked:

Whereas I agree that blue and pink go better with purple, I'd like to point out that the bi flag is of those three colours and even if we went for different shades in a different order it'd still be too similar imo

i thought that too. good input!

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there was a suggestion that we decide on colors first before we decide on a design, which I think could be a good idea? 

my thoughts: purple for lesbian history, for sure. 

@bunny-hyuk replied to your post

Purple definitely. A lot.of flags seem to include pink, orange, or blue too. Though blue and pink go better with purple

good input!

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Anonymous asked:

last anon; yeah I get it, its good when you word it like that! i guess the colors are just misleading. at this point i just want any flag to represent us that hopefully isnt the lipstick one

!!!

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Anonymous asked:

tbh i like the popular pink and orange butch and femme flag, but i feel like it makes it seem like all lesbians are either butch or femme when a lot are neither. plus it still uses the femme flag with a bad creator. but its not your fault and i get not everyone will be pleased and you're trying your absolute best so thank you!

thanks friend :’) i wish i could fix it all. 

i do see how it seems like we’re dividing lesbians like that, but i suppose you could also view it as [all lesbians (butch) (nb/trans) (femme)] does that make sense? like everyone is encompassed... but we also have specifications. the whole flag by itself represents all of us, regardless if we identify as butch or femme. each section/stripe then represents the community inside that mass. yknow?

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