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Jess!!!!! I'm so glad to see you blogging again. Yours is one of the blogs that made me start my own blog on Tumblr (although I was skeptical in the beginning), and I love it here. I'm so so so thankful to you. 💖 I hope to see you more and the world of Jikook stans is incomplete without you. You're one of the veterans! P.S. I may or may not have googled "dingus"

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AHHH I’M TRYING...again.... i’m going about it a different way and hope this time sticks. I really do miss it sometimes, but sometimes...ykno how tumblr can get. i want to come back and talk about jikook, do analyses, all the stuff I used to love. >_

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Anonymous asked:

I think Yall need to calm down,I follow you both & It's sad to see 2 of my favorite blogs fight like this,It's true she should have put credit from the very beginning & that's her mistake,But you also should have discussed the issue privately with her first instead of creating a bigger MESS,As for her ranting about the jeonlous hype that's her own opinion that she's allowed to have just like how you're allowed to have yours,It's childish the way u handled things tho I agree she was wrong as well

I don’t think we’re really fighting... tbh my main issue with her has nothing to do with this. 

In terms of the jealousy thing, I felt like something needed to be said. I think the way she ranted had people feeling like they couldn’t enjoy those jealous moments anymore and I definitely don’t agree with the views on jealousy, so I stated my opinion. Yes she’s definitely allowed to have hers but the way she was saying we should “leave jeonlous in 2015/16″ made it sound like she was posing her views on other shippers. Like they weren’t allowed to talk about those moments anymore. She may not have meant for it to come off like that, but it did. 

About “discussing it privately”, I’ve tried to discuss things with her privately in the past and she has made it clear she doesn’t want to do that. TBH the problems I have with her are deeper than what’s been happening in the tag these last few days. I’ve tried to discuss things with her privately, but she has repeatedly ignored these attempts.

I’m sorry if this is upsetting to you... seriously. My intent is not to cause anyone discomfort. But sometimes shit happens that’s not so easy to get over. And this is frustration I’ve been holding in for months now and stayed quiet on. A big part of the reason I keep struggling with returning to Tumblr. Why am I bringing it up now? I guess the rant on jealousy triggered me in a way, because it was something I feel very passionate about. Not just the topic of jealousy, but the police-ing of shippers and telling them what is and is not okay. 

Again... I’m sorry anon. But sometimes things build up, ykno? That frustration grows. You try to stay quiet but all it takes it one little push and that’s sort of what happened here for me. I know I’m not the only one who feels this way about her but I am the one who slipped up and let it show. But I’m not going to backtrack now. Me and her have unresolved issues that I have tried to work out. She ignored it. This is where I’m at with this now. 

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Anonymous asked:

' I guess that anon was mistaken. The reason I believed it so quickly is because.. it really isn’t the first time I’ve seen her do something like that. ' The anon wasnt mistaken because i saw the first version of the gifset too and it wasnt credit. the person answered an ask and admitted that they werent credit at first, too. and as you ourself said.. you havent seen her to that for the first time either :(

anon- its so annoying that first she stirred up the whole drama about jeonlous (like please let us shippers ship) and then she doesnt even credit the fansites until later after she gets notes (or after she gets called out)just gonna leave this here

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I was in the jikook tag earlier and i don’t mean to start drama again….but people calling jealously toxic does not mean they are jikook’s relationship toxic. Jealously is a toxic thing in relationships and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable…saying “stop imposing your toxic fantasies on these two” is not the same as saying “these two have a toxic relationship.”

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jikookielove

Okay here’s the thing with that though…

Firstly, jealousy is not toxic. Jealousy CAN be toxic in a relationship. It depends completely on the severity and how it is handled by the people in the relationship. It’s perfectly healthy for me to be jealous if my s/o is spending more time with their friends rather than me. It is NOT healthy for me to be blowing up their phone, showing up where they are, constantly stressing myself and my s/o out. It depends on the context of the relationship.

Second. “Stop imposing your toxic fantasies on these two”…. what? huh?

And third, they might not be saying “these two have a toxic relationship” but they are implying that the relationship can be seen as toxic by association with “jealousy”. That by us making jokes about Jeonlous and Jimlous, we are tainting the relationship (or the ship). To which I have to say our theories and shipper ramblings have no direct impact on their ACTUAL relationship. AND it’s all in good fun, we don’t actually see the ship in that way, the only ones blowing this up are those making this topic into an issue when it doesn’t need to be.

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okay, so i’m borderline cross with this whole ordeal so here’s my take on it

Y’ALL LIKE JUICY ANALYSIS, RIGHT? 

this “jeonlous mouth thing” have been around for sometime now and i dont honestly get the negative feedback people are starting to impose on its name these days ????? 

shipping in general, as much as it leaves so much of a bad taste in our mouths and as much as i hate to admit it myself, is run by the delusional (read: responsible for delusion) cogs in our minds, lubricated by the teeny-tiniest details of the pairing’s words, actions, quirks and personalities to fulfill our wild desires to prove “TRUST ME, THEY’RE BANGING EACH OTHER ” and to act as supporting evidences to back-up this “constructed reality” of what we want them to be.

the thing with jikook // koomin otp, as most other kpop pairings are, is that they’re members of the same group or band or whatever you want to classify BTS as. one way or another, they’re bound to have a relationship, may it be purely for their careers (a business relationship, as described by SHINee’s Jonghyun in one of their Happy Together guestings) or an established platonic one, heightened by the difficulties they’ve dealt with and the feats they’ve achieved as a group. 

from this, we can branch out to a ton of “stuff” for a lack of better word, and i can only discuss (read: rant) so much

EXHIBIT A

bts members are friends more than co-workers and we are very much aware of that, as opposed to those groups with their contracts sufficing as the adhesive to weave each other together (c’mon, this is not a shade). i dont know about you but in a squad (a group of friends rather, if you don’t like seeing that word), it’s most probably mapped out that as humans, we’ll be drawn particularly to one of them; hence, the best friend phenomenon. 

so…are they best friends? well, there’s still taehyung in the equation and there’s no way we can dismiss him like that. (side remark here: the three of them can just be each other’s best friends, you know? im aware that this is an actual, real life thing that happens to other people…but i’ve been in that circumstance and it’ll be hard juggling your attention and love equally that it’s more deteriorating than beneficial to all ends) now, taking into consideration how much emphasis the whole korean culture put into respect and age, the maknae line just transcends through all that , BUT

1. jimin and taehyung are close (even regarding each other as soulmates in one of their recent fanmeetings) esp because of the fact that they’re of the same age, meaning, the level of comfort with each other is as much as korean society expects them to have. they’re not just “comfortable” brothers more than chingus though, they’re that comfortable with each other it’s beyond classifications (like there are classifications, but you get the point).

2. maknaes are very much endeared in the whole korean “age-and-respect-and-authority-and-hierarchy” landscape (can it even be called that?). jimin has shown how much he cherishes jungkook even tracing back to their predebut days up until now, successfully fulfilling the role of hyungs in korean standard whose role among many others is to take care of those younger than they are. other members also treat jungkook fairly similar or sometimes even topping jimin’s treatment to the maknae aka taehyung, whose life source is probably skinship + aegyo with other members (we’ll get to that) and the whole reason im confused who’s whose when it comes to this best friend thing 

3. still in the korean view of age, you address those older than you with respect by how? c’mon, we’re all nuts about kpop how must we not know? there’s oppa, unnie, hyung and noona (this addressing thing is more of an asian thing than mere korean, really). now, here’s the catch: jungkook calls jimin hyung borderline merely (read: close to the bare minimum). a mere slip-up? a moment of the perfect mask idols need to sport, carelessly put aside? more than anything, it just fuels the fire in this situation. jungkook addresses his other hyungs with the names they need to be called, even taehyung he’s very close with. and this just show that jungkook considers jimin a chingu, one he can comfortably act towards, (just like jimin and taehyung’s relationship, being the actual chingus here) despite the apparent age difference.

i dont know if i’ve gotten to anything at this point, but i’m lenient to the concept of jimin and jungkook being the best friends which explains most of the things they do together which leads us to:

EXHIBIT B 

skinship between friends, more specifically friends belonging to the same sex (gender’s a bit more complicated concept, you guys), is the most normal thing in korea. they probably are most expressive with each other to the point that it baffles foreign onlookers, a good example of which are the int’l fans.

remember what i said about taehyung? all males in korea are practically like him, even stemming from young age, being touchy-feely here and there with friends.now, ever wondered why apparently jikook is not a huge, blown out of proportion ship in korea as opposed to its stance in the international fanbase? yup, that’s because for koreans, seeing jimin and jungkook’s interaction with each other is like seeing the average same sex chingus walking downtown or their buddies at school as they do everyday. holding hands, feeling each other up, sitting on laps, pecks on the cheek (less observed), and even touching thighs, crossing the boundaries of what foreigners would deem appropriate, is common and normal (have i made my point about this issue yet? i’ve become a broken record,my goodness).basically, there is no such thing as personal space in korean culture of friends; thus, skinship is prevalent.

a very much related issue to that is korea’s view on homosexuality. no matter how peppered with the stereotypical gay (not meant to be taken offensively, guys im also a queer folk hi) interactions and copious displays of affection korea is, homophobia is still present. it’s too ridiculous that it’s become funny. you can tell me how korea has become liberated and all that shit but the thing is, they’re not. korea is just downright a conservative country (is this an offense too? oh god). korea is still anchored to the concept that people are only and only and only limited to a man-loving woman and woman-loving man. topmost reason why idols cannot come out and identify as different from the two because to deviate from the norm is supposedly throwing away tradition and rude and can spite everyone around them that they’ll lose their job.

i dont know where im going but i still am in check of what im talking about. bottomline of this exhibit is holding onto the contradicting persona of korea, jikook is all but nothing more (this is proper grammar, you guys) than a thing of delusion.

EXHIBIT C

kpop idols love to treat their fans and bts is not a loser in the game. they give back quite warmly to the fans. they deem armys highly because, nonverbatim, bts is nothing without their fans. fans are the reason among others (to dismiss their hardwork is plain rude) why they’ve made it this big. so they’ve got fanservice in store for us, the majestic element of them all, leaving us in a baffled rut whether or not our otp’s interaction are candid or sheer fanservice. THEY ALL KNOW THAT THEY’RE PAIRED WITH EACH OTHER. a gift for the fans? publicity stunts to gain the favor of their audience? whatever meaning fanservices hold in the hearts of our dear bts members, it just ups the notch of the level of our delusion when it comes to our ships 

(it’s heartbreaking, i know. i didn’t even want to write this part out. if you can just sense my unwillingness to write on the matter ㅠㅠ)

EXHIBIT D

let’s go back to what actually irked me and cross me so much that it driven me nuts to the point that i actually spend my time writing this long ass rant. 

“jeonlous” = a jealous jeon jungkook

now, this has gathered a negative connotation primarily but is not limited to two things:

a. “this jeonlous thing manifests a relationship with an abusive undertone” (okay, so i constructed that sentence to make their claims much more rational than it fucking is)

b. it does not make sense for jungkook (and even jimin) to get jealous of other members/fans/other people not them in general

firstly, what does it mean to be JEALOUS (can you see my eyes rolling?)

in the evolutionary, biological scale, is the exhibited response to the threats to the relationship they are in because monogamy that’s why (a reality that’s manifested almost throughout all the animal kingdom) 

in psychology, is the complex emotion that’s not just about anger, abandonment, fear or sadness; it’s the simmer that’s aroused when a valued relationship is somehow not in its standard state and there is raw desire to regain the affection and/or attention. it’s even described as “a necessary emotion because it preserves social bonds. it motivates people to engage in behaviors that maintain an important relationship.” a clinical psychologist characterizes jealousy as something we don’t have much control over, and that it is a natural, instinctive emotion that everyone experiences at one point in their lives. 

it just follows that when jealousy is at hand, people tend to do things that has become seemingly second nature tics to them. now, this is a good reason to back up the jeonlous mouth/tongue thing, how much of a mere coincidence it may be. jealousy is not bound to romantic tones; it can encompass siblings fighting for their parents’ attention or even in friendships. so that’s a yes, yup, jungkook can get jealous of other members because he has that valued relationship (refer to exhibit a) with jimin and there will be a lingering longing in him for jimin to get back at being jimin again (read: showing him affection and attention; emphasis on him) 

don’t get me started at this abusive, emotionally manipulative relationship issue here because it’s just absurd and this rant will be longer than my lifespan i dont even know anymore (ok but the insecurity that is woven in the ambiguity of jealousy may also be responsible in driving someone to emotionally manipulate his partner to the point of abuse BUT JK JUST WANTS JIMIN’S ATTENTION BACK SO WHAT’S ABUSIVE HERE calling this whole ordeal abusive is too much of a stretch like really? really? y’all are actually taking this into consideration? really?)

(okay this rant had high hopes in presenting evidences to support my claims but i havent slept a wink yet and im also half angry ????)

the thing is, as much as we’re delusional in shipping jikook, y’all are just delusional claiming that the fucking quirk jungkook exhibits is abusive WHAT DO WE EVEN KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEIR ACTUAL STATUS IS IN THE FIRST PLACE goodbye y’all im just im–ugh this is so dumb

you wanna know the catch about this jeonlous thing that gets me every single time? IT’S THAT IT’S FUCKING CUTE. AND I’M SHIPPING THEM TO MY PLEASURE THAT IT GIVES ME JOY TO SEE THESE MOMENTS WHICH GIVES ME LITTLE SPARKS OF HOPE THAT MAYBE THEY’RE MORE THAN FRIENDS YEAH I KNOW IM DELUSIONAL BUT MOSTLY BECAUSE IT’S CUTE and that’s good enough reason for me to fawn over their “supposed” romance 

y’all are hypocrites enjoying the jeonlous thing one second then next second, condemning it after reading a post and riding the mainstream. Y’ALL NEED TO SIT THE FUCK DOWN (also reevaluate the hypocrisy but oh well)

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jikookielove

YAASSSS THANK YOU! The same people who giffed the fuck out of these moments for notes are now trying to condemn the entire fandom for enjoying those same moments. It amazes me. 

And to act like jealousy isn’t a natural emotion... To somehow misconstrue this whole thing into an abusive relationship... gdi

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Omg thank you for the jikook/kookmin jealousy rant thing! Honestly I was too scared to say anything to those who were opposing the jealousy stuff because I hate arguing with people but omg I completely agree. I've never seen anyone take the jeonlous (or other jealousy moments) that serious so I was like??? What's the problem tho??? So yea! (^:. ksjdksl.

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No need to say thank you! It’s something that needed to be said. I just get frustrated when people make an issue out of nothing or try to tell others how to ship. I get that jealousy CAN be toxic in relationships but for this... it was being blown so out of proportion. Analyzing and over analyzing is all in good fun and some people just need to chill. 

And I definitely didn’t want people feeling like they couldn’t talk about Jeonlous or... Jimlous. lol. Thank you!

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Jealousy and Jikook/Kookmin

Jealousy. It’s an emotion we have all experienced at various levels. Sometimes we’re jealous when our parents pay more attention to our sibling than us, or when a friend spends more time with someone else rather than us, or a classmate does better than us on a test. Dude I get jealous when my dog ignores me for a toy (I then capture him and force him to cuddle and love me because hello? I give you food!).

Anyway, it’s natural to feel jealous. It’s normal. It’s healthy. Okay? Okay.

Jealousy is a very popular theme in shipping. We all love to speculate how person A is jealous when person B spends time with someone else. How person A is pissed, how person B is doing it to tease them, etc etc. And of course we all know how popular the theme of jealousy is with Jikook/Kookmin.

Yes I’m a die hard Jikook/Kookmin shipper. Yes I’ve admitted many times over that I have no problem being called delulu or what have you. I love Jikook. They are in love. Full stop. But I am going to do my very best to be balanced and fair with this.

There’s so many moments, so many videos, so many pictures that we’ve all seen and squealed over showing either Jungkook or Jimin being jealous. The looks, the glares, the tongue in the cheek. I mean the term JEONLOUS didn’t come from nothing. Same with Satellite Jeon. These are things we’ve observed many times over. Call it coincidence, call it a habit, but Jungkook doing the tongue in cheek thing when Jimin just so happens to being paying attention to someone else? YESS I’m gonna get excited and squeal and scream. It’s cute, it’s adorable, and it’s FUN.

I honestly hate it when people always need to emphasize that shipping is for FUN and that people need to stop taking it so seriously. We KNOW it’s for fun. We all know it’s for fun. Stop trying to act all superior or above all us “silly delusional shippers” because we’re just enjoying our ship. You being all negative doesn’t do anything besides point out what we already know and bring the mood down (this also goes for the people who whine about the ship being dead if there’s no moments for like a day, but that’s another rant).

Anyway.

There’s been discussion about Jikook and jealousy. How jealousy is toxic, how it’s not something to be romanticized and needs to be taken out of shipping. That it’s for 2015/2016 Jikook/Kookmin. Um no?

I also want to start off by saying, I am not saying that Jungkook is ALWAYS jealous when Jimin interacts with anyone else. Or that Jimin is ALWAYS jealous when Jungkook reacts with someone else. They love all their members, they are close to all their members, everyone loves everyone, bla bla bla.

What I really want to say to the people who are saying Jeonlous and Chimlous (is this really the term for it? can we change it please? Why not just Jimlous? Minlous? Idk alsdkfjal) is toxic and poisonous or w/e is, it’s not that deep.

For real, it’s not that deep. We’re all enjoying ourselves and our ship. It’s cute, it’s fun. I’m not saying every time one of them interacts with anyone else, the other is jealous. But SOMETIMES it LOOKS like they are jealous. And it’s fun to speculate and come up with headcanons because that’s what shipping IS. Or at least a part of it. I suppose some people are more casual about it, and maybe for you it’s not like that. But for some of us, we enjoy that part of it. We enjoy coming up with our daydream type scenarios about Jungkook being jealous and Jimin having to soothe him with kisses and cuddles. Or Jimin being jealous and Jungkook teasing him like “You know I love you the most, hyungie.”

Then there’s the argument that it IS that deep. That to romanticize jealousy is wrong and that people will somehow misread this as an unhealthy relationship if we keep saying they are jealous of each other. Or that people might start seeing jealousy as romantic, because of how the fandom handles it with Jikook, in their own personal lives.

If you are basing real life on fics and tumblr posts, you have problems that have nothing to do with Jikook.  

Same goes if you really do think an extremely jealous and possessive relationship is romantic. Again, those issues are something that you need to work out.

Most of us are able to separate real life and the ship life. Like I said, IT’S NOT THAT DEEP. We aren’t reading this as a relationship filled with jealousy and anger. We aren’t saying the boys HATE whenever the other interacts with other members or anyone else. WE AREN’T SAYING THEY GET MAD AND POSSESSIVE! IT’S LITERALLY JUST “OMG He’s so jealous!” “Right?!”

People might hyperbolize when they’re freaking out about a moment, but those types of rants aren’t meant to be taken seriously. If I’m screaming about how Jimin is so jealous he’s going to slam Jungkook up against a wall first chance he gets, that’s me fangirling over a moment and getting excited about it. That’s not me saying Jimin is so possessive and angry that he’s slamming Jungkook up against surfaces all the time. That he’s physically abusing Jungkook OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

All shippers are different. All shippers ship to different levels. Some are just casual shippers, some just ship the general friendship, and some are more intense. There’s not right or wrong way to ship? Everyone is free to see what they want. Nobody should be telling anyone else HOW TO ship? Or what should or shouldn’t be included in the fandom? Jeonlous and Chimlous (shudders) is something people enjoy and there’s nothing wrong with that. Just because you don’t like it /shrugs/ (This goes for fics to, everyone can write what they want. You choose whether or not you want to read it. But again, that’s another discussion altogether).

… Again I say, it’s not that deep. It’s shipping. It’s for fun. Stop trying to create an issue where there isn’t any, or policing how people ship. This is our little corner. As long as the boys don’t see this and nobody brings it up to the boys.

If you disagree, please feel free to reply. I really do want to discuss this.

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Anonymous asked:

tbh idk if i should laugh or cry at this mintsugakookies*tumblr*com/post/158031391934/jikook-always-beating-each-other-during-fansigns a whole gifset made of fancams and yet, no credit. Not A Single Credit. should I cry? or laugh because people blindly reblog that shit and give it notes?

sobs so many people do this all the time and it makes me so :-( especially if the fantakens aren’t editable either… ;;; a lot of people don’t know, is what i wanna say but being here for so long, this fandom is usually strict about following fansite rules and it’s just??? fantakens should always get credit so i hope people will follow those guidelines ;;;;

how do you still stay strong to gif ??? or have the motivation to? because im 0-00000001% this close to stop giffing lol like ive been giffing for 3 years now and i know its not 100% inevitable but it still pisses me of SO MUCH to this day that people repost, or edit OVER my gifs and or somehow find a way to edit over my stuff and post it to weheartit like h o w much of a disrespectful piece of a shit can you be to do that to a persons work

mmm, it’s hard to say lol i do it out of enjoyment like it’s a hobby of mine and when i have time i’ll gif and when i don’t then oh well ;; i get the feeling tho, it’s very frustrating and then i see people always saying that either 1) gifmakers should watermark 2) once it’s on the internet then your loss 3) don’t gif if you don’t want it to be reposted 4) gifmakers aren’t shit and i’m just????? it’s hard to stop reposters and their mindset on why they think it’s okay to repost any fan created thing pisses me off but i’m used to just reporting reposts on tumblr and twt is jkdsnfkdsf a whole new story OTL

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jikookielove

Not very surprising. She does this a lot.

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Anonymous asked:

You saying jimin is small reminded of THAT ONE gif (you know which one I'm talking about) so I certainly dont think he's small but what do I know about dicks lmfao

which gif 👀 

and i certainly know nothing about dicks either so who knows

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I’M SCREAMING OUT OF MY ASS ALKSJDN HOW CAN I FORGET 

Why is an ongoing conversation about dicks happening at this time of day

@jikookjikook​ a little birdie told me that you know the history of jimin’s dicc 🤔

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jikookielove

And to add to the dick convo, the order doesn’t matter. They all got that good dick.

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