Serious Otherkin

@seriousotherkin / seriousotherkin.tumblr.com

Do you want a serious answer? Do you want to ask an older otherkin with several years of experience within the greater otherkin community? Do you want to get an honest answer? Do you really want to know what you are? Then ask.
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Anonymous asked:

i'm struggling a lot with this recently, could i get a basic definition of the most common terms in the otherkin/fictionkin community? how do i know what fits- how can i tell if im strongly relating or i Am this character/species? i'm not sure where to start ]: hope you're well! anything helps!

-oliver (18/6/22)

To be perfectly honest, you're likely to get different definition of many terms, potentially more than one variant, from each and every otherkin, therian, or fictionkin you ask, and the language does change from year to year. The cornerstones haven't shifted much though. Otherkin is a person who identifies on some level as other than human. It is derived from an older term, elvenkind, that referred to people who identified as, well, elven. Kintype is the type of other you are. Therians are those that consider themselves animal on some level, usually something of earth though there's some that identify as decidedly otherwordly animals who prefer the term therian because their other is a feral or wild animal, not a sapient species. Theriotype is thus the species of animal the person identifies as. And the fictives or fictionkin consider themselves as beings from fiction, sometimes specific persons. Beyond this, terms tend to muddy. The way to figure out whether you are, or simply identify "with" something is to really take a long hard look at yourself and at the thing you think you might be. That means flaws and all. We tend to romanticize what we identify with because we don't identify with things just because the archetype appeals to us, but because it in some way represents an ideal to us, something we want to be. If we look at ourselves and our own flaws (which is truthfully a very difficult thing, we are not used to that level of honesty with ourselves at all and our minds will rebel when we try to face ourselves truthfully and honestly) and try to figure out what we're avoiding to see in ourselves, what we're trying Not to see, and compare that to what we're trying Not to see in the thing we think we might be, we can start to make progress. It's really easy to try on a new hat, a new identity, to avoid being ourselves, to avoid seeing ourselves as who we are, and we are Naturally biased towards ourselves in a way that is genuinely unavoidable. To some extent we can't see ourselves truthfully because we can't not be both the observer and the observed, but it's worth it to try. Because if you don't like what you see, you can choose to change it, to work on it, to keep an eye out for it so that you can stop doing it, stop being it. When we're looking at the difference between identifying as and identifying with, a lot of the self work starts with "does this benefit me?" It's not the whole of the work, but it's a start.

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Anonymous asked:

What theriotype has claws, extreme flight or fight instincts (basically really violent and cowardly) with an omnivorous (more leaning towards the carnivore side)? I always had a really strong connection with canine-looking creatures and I'm unsure of what type of therian I am.

(I know only myself can find the answer but I would like to hear the opinion of a more experienced person)

Okay. I do not want to make any suggestions, because I can not tell you anything of worth here. The only opinion I can offer isn't as an older otherkin with decades of experience within the greater kin community. The only opinion I can offer is more of a "nerd who reads about animals sometimes" opinion. Which means, if I say "sounds like some kind of bear?" it's got nothing to do with my experience as otherkin and everything to do with having some knowledge of bears because they sometimes show up around the country I live in and are kinda cool.

What that should tell you is that if you're looking for an animal that fits a description, try asking people who like animals.

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Anonymous asked:

Do I have to physically shift to be a otherkin???

Oh absolutely Not. There's no evidence of any kind that physical shapeshifting of any kind what so ever is possible at all.

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Anonymous asked:

May I have the definition of deerkin and meerkatkin? I suspect I may be one of the two

Kin as a suffix refer to identifying as the word it suffixes. As in, a person that is deerkin identifies as a deer. Same with meerkatkin. HOWEVER! Therians are people who identify as animals, so it may be more accurate to refer to deer and meerkat as your theriotype. The type of animal you identify as. Many therians don't like to refer to themselves a otherkin and vice versa. YMMV.

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Anonymous asked:

I have an adult child that identifies as a fox. She has fallen into a deep depression and has a difficult time functioning at all because she does not like the feeling of her human body or using her hands. Her only relief presently is using THC to get out of her head. She has a therapist who is legitimately trying to help but is feeling out of their depth. I am hoping you might have some advice or direction that might help her find a balance. She feels little hope for continuing her life.

Sorry for the late answer. It's difficult to give a Good answer, and in all these things your mileage may vary. Sometimes people try very hard to encourage loving your body, but this is frequently far beyond reach for a LOT of people. Otherkin that are trying to make sense of their existence, trans people who don't have access to appropriate healthcare, disabled people dealing with chronic pain, fatigue, and difficult limitations. (And before anyone gets angry, I'm speaking from experience on all these fronts. I am transgender, disabled, and otherkin.) The human body can feel like a torturous meat prison from time to time, and it's very difficult to enjoy it when it does that. But... if we enjoy anything at all... we can attempt to remind ourselves that the body is the interface, the equipment, the tool with which we can access that which we enjoy. Even when we wish we had a different body we don't know how the changed neurology would change our sense of taste and hearing so we might find our favorite foods too bitter and our favorite music too discordant. Everything we enjoy in our lives we are only able to enjoy because we live, now, in the bodies that we have. From our favorite bands to the feel of the sun warming our back. From the phone game we're playing with to the scent of freshly brewed coffee. From the physical sensation of getting into a clean bed with clean sheets after a shower to hearing a friend laugh at a silly joke you've made. Every good thing we feel and experience in this life is because we're here, in this life, in our bodies, right now... Everything... is only available to us through the bodies we have. This doesn't mean we have to love our bodies. We don't even really have to like our bodies.

But maybe we can negotiate a truce with our bodies. Sure, my body's entirely human, and yeah, it's awkward and unwieldy and a constant source of pain and fatigue and the damned thing has bits missing and doesn't "move right" but by all that is holy do I love to put a piece of high quality dark chocolate on my tongue and letting it melt as I sip a freshly made cup of coffee. When I'm having a particularly bad body day I sometimes just spend the day filling my time with whatever keeps me occupied, but whenever I start to feel a little better I help myself to a treat. A nap in the sun, a hot bath, a bite of my favorite food, the music that makes me wanna bounce and dance, a new game off on sale off one of the game providers, something like that. All of that is my truce with my body. I don't need it to be something it can not be, I just need it to keep existing so I can keep having nice things. This has given me, more than anything else, Time. And Time brings change, it's inevitable. Everything changes All the time. So all of that time has gotten me something amazing. I have my own adult autistic offspring. They're amazing, intelligent, incredibly talented, and quite possibly the best thing I've brought into this world. I have a husband and a boyfriend and I love them both so very much. I have a beautiful home full of plants and pets, full of Life. I have been able to do all the transition things I wanted. I have a pretty good life right now. Body's still frequently nothing short of a meat prison, but even then it's still livable and sometimes that's all we really need... but in order to get there, we just have to stick around for a while.

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Anonymous asked:

is it possible to be multiple otherkin/therian types? Like, is it possible to be wolfkin,catkin,angelkin,werewolfkin,and fox kin all at once? [only use that as an example to bring lots of variation into the mix]

Yes, there are a lot of otherkin that have more than one type. Of those that believe they're otherkin because of reincarnation, many believe they've lived as several different things and still carry some of those lives with them, for example.

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Anonymous asked:

Are you going to be posting to this blog anymore, or might I as well unsubscribe from the RSS feed? My reader tells me it hasn't been updated in about a year.

My apologies for my absence but it has been a very, very long year in my neck of the woods. I will be posting, eventually, but at this time I can not guarantee when that’ll be. 

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Otherkin Criteria

There’s a lot of confusion in some parts of the Tumblr community as to what counts as otherkin and what doesn’t. 

We have plenty of definitions, but I haven’t seen anyone lay it out quite like this, so I thought I’d make a sort of checklist to help clarify.

Definitions haven’t always been this clearly expressed, but they’ve pretty much always been this way.

  1. Non-human identity. Otherkin are people who believe themselves to be partially or wholly non-human on a spiritual and/or psychological level. Explanations for why their identity is non-human vary, and this identity may be as anything non-human. Most otherkin either consider their identity spiritual/religious in nature, often correlating to past lives, or cite mundane psychological explanations.  Only explicitly non-human identities count as otherkin. Some fictionkin may identify as human fictional characters, and while equally valid identities, these are not otherkin and are functionally little different from traditional beliefs in reincarnation. Feelings of similarity and affinity for non-human beings are excluded from the otherkin label. We identify as, not with
  2. Non-physical identity. Otherkin identities are spiritual and/or psychological only. Otherkin consider their physical bodies to be entirely human. Identities with any physically non-human component are excluded from the otherkin label. Beliefs in physical shapeshifting are not a part of the otherkin community.
  3. Involuntary identity. There is no component of choice in being otherkin. This is part of why the explanations for why and how otherkin exist vary so widely; because there is no inherent connection between belief system and being otherkin. Not only is it not possible to choose to be otherkin, but it is not possible to choose not to be otherkin. Which means each of us must find a way to reconcile this involuntary identity with our existing beliefs about the world around us, leading to a variety of conflicting explanations.

If you answer yes to all of these criteria (and only if all of them apply), you may be considered otherkin.

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Anonymous asked:

Hello. Can you suggest me a group/page/forum where I can meet serious werewolfkins/lycankins (NOT the "p-shifter" types)? Thank you.

Hey hey, I’ve been on a prolonged hiatus for a while now, for a number of reasons, but let me tell you, I am actually a little excited that otherkin.com has changed owners and there will be a forum coming up there, owned and operated by older, experienced, serious otherkin. Knowing the people who’re building the article base there and preparing it for launch, I can say with absolute certainty that I fully trust them to run a good, solid website where anyone serious and honest will find a safe and solid space to find other otherkin and discuss all manner of kin related topics with them. 

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Anonymous asked:

What do you think of the “A Month of Kin Pride” idea? I’m referring to the post by kinmonth

The idea of kin pride is, honestly, not a good idea. A lot of people already think we’re saying being ‘kin makes us LGBT+, and that would only spread the myth further.

If the name was changed to kin appreciation month or something like that then I wouldn’t have a problem with it, but honestly “pride” is such a loaded term in this context.

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Anonymous asked:

Hi; my friend (who doesn't identify as Otherkin) recently shared with me that she has astral wings. I personally want to start meditating to see if I awaken any astral ears, tail, wings, etc. Is wanting that "allowed"?

Wanting to find supernumerary phantom limbs is “allowed”, but just so you know, wanting them is sometimes all it takes to make them happen, even if they weren’t there to begin with.So, be careful and take good care of yourself. 

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Anonymous asked:

So I think I may be a fictionkin, if that's the word used to describe it (I hate the word a lot). A bit back, I watched the first episode of a show, and the day after I had started to use affectionate nicknames the main character had used, and started thinking of myself in terms of the main character; I also find it weird to say their name in 3rd person. I've also found my tastes aligning more with them, and fears aligning more too, over time. What does this mean?

It can mean that you identify as this person which would make you fictionkin. 

It can also mean that this character is really well written and appeals to you in a way that makes you identify super strongly With the character. 

You’re the only one who can really dig down and work out which it is, but I have some suggestions as to how you can try and answer the question in a way that you can put some trust in. First, stop watching the show. Block the tags relevant to the show. Both of these are temporary steps. Then get a notebook and write down your current thoughts regarding the character and your relation thereto. This is important. Writing things down is Super important. Our minds and memories are malleable, but the words on paper won’t change.This is your anchor. Then, using meditation, or music, or whatever helps you focus, try to work out what happens next. Without spoilers, without watching the show, you’re likely to work out some of the next steps in the character’s story correctly, because media is nothing if not full of foreshadowing. Do not speculate too much, try and write down what you “know” is coming, don’t worry about how you know it, just write it. 

Don’t settle for one thing. Write every little thing you can muster. 

If you are this character, you should already know a fair bit.If you have no idea what comes next, odds are, you’re simply identifying with the character. 

When you’ve written down at least a half dozen things, preferably considerably more, and there’s literally nothing more left to write down, then you can unblock the tags and start re-watching the series. Then you can see how much you got right, and how obviously these things were coming. If all you got right was the obvious stuff, then you’re likely just identifying with the character. If you got most of it wrong, then you’re likely just identifying with the character. If you got most of the things right, even little things that you had no business knowing, things that you were sure were coming even if there was nothing in the series to this point to indicate it, and with an uncanny accuracy... well then... there can hardly be any question as to who you are can there?This is only one method however, whatever you do, it’ll always take real work to really get an answer to that question “Who and what am I?”

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Am i still otherkin if I dont know anytjing about my past lives?

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If you identify, in some way, for some reason, as something other than a human being, you are otherkin. No past life memories are necessary. 

Heck, I know and respect some very good people who are otherkin though they don’t believe in reincarnation, or really even in the soul. They know they can’t quite explain why they experience what they do, and they are skeptical in nature, but they’re still otherkin. 

If you are otherkin, you are otherkin. 

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Anonymous asked:

Are there any other words for therianthropy or otherkinity (?) that were used before tumblr existed? I wanted to proof the people that keep saying were just tumblr's special snowflakes wrong. And do some more research for my self... But libraries and such don't have books about otherkin and therian (at least not with those terms) so looking for information is difficult :l Sorry if this like to chaotic or something 😖😢

Theidentity (or ontological) phenomenons known as Otherkinity and Modern Therianthropy predate this blogging site. Tumblr was founded in 2007.The term Otherkin began to be used in 1990, 17 years earlier. Theterm therianthropy and its historical use began around 1901, 116years ago. The modern use of therianthropy or what Therianthropesmean when we use the term, started in 1993, 14 years before thefounding of Tumblr. See the sources below for good samples ofhistory. Good luck trying to get those people to accept theinformation. When confronted with this information, most haters orantikin just block and refuse to accept it. They go on acting like itdoesn’t exist.

Sources:

Scribner,O. “Otherkin lexicon: A multi-lingual dictionary of jargon used inthe communities of otherkin, therianthropes, and other similarpeoples, v. 0.1 Abridged.” The Art and Writing of O. Scribner. 8September, 2012.http://frameacloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Scribner_Lexicon_0-1.pdf

Scribner,O. “Otherkin timeline: The recent history of elfin, fae, and animalpeople, v. 2.0.” The Art and Writing of O. Scribner. 8 September,2012.http://frameacloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Scribner_Timeline2p0.pdf

“Therianthropy:Brief History” on the Therian Wikihttp://therian.wikia.com/wiki/Therianthropy

Jakkal“Foundation’s Edge: The History of the Online Werecommunity,Werenet, 1999. Archived page. http://web.archive.org/web/20010620111439/http:/www.were.net/foundation.shtml

Houseof Chimeras “A History of the Therian Community - 1993 - 2014”Between Forest and Sea. October 2016.https://houseofchimeras.weebly.com/informative-articles.html (alsocheck out the Resources page)

Anothergreat general source for Therianthropy related writing by members ofthe community is Werelibrary.http://werelibrary.com/category/the-library/

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This thread is so good. 

Interesting. Really wish he would have included his sources though

“ancient” neopagan “traditions” actually source to 20th century spiritualist hoaxers, in other news water is wet

reblogging this to here because of the recurring ideas of breaching the veil or the veil being something that will fall or disappear entirely and thus give all otherkin their true forms is something that Unfortunately has popped up again in a couple of places...

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Anonymous asked:

I was wondering if there are any specific otherkin that have these following traits. Wings, Claws, and horns. I'm not for sure I have those. I do know however that since I began reading on otherkin, I clicked automatically with angelkin and I don't know why. The feeling was that of something opening up in my brain and my mind. Since then I've felt like I was missing my wings and now my back hurts like hell. What I came to was the following, Demonkin, Angelkin, Faerykin, and Mermaidkin.

Wings, claws and horns, oh my... 

There is a veritable plethora of creatures that have some or all of these features. From shapeshifters to dragons to... well... any number of things. 

Not to mention people with more than one kintype could find themselves experiencing signs of these things as they’re working to try and figure themselves out. 

That being said... your back pain?... Always rule out the mundane before you assume the magical. 

Make sure to adjust your posture. Just because you might feel a phantom wing sensation doesn’t mean you should force your wingless human body into a physical position meant for a winged body. That will only cause pain. And make sure you’re not having any other form of physical problem with your back. Don’t ignore your physical body even if you have a spiritual explanation to lean on. 

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