hot takes about endogenics:

i am anti-endo in the sense that I don't believe in non-disordered systems and am against intention creations of systems, but am pro-endo on whether or not a system can exist without trauma (but only in a very nuancrf way).

allow me to elaborate.

if it were possible for someone to be an endogenic system, as in a system not caused by trauma, they would still be experiencing dissociation in some way. alters are dissocative parts. that means it would still be a dissociative disorder. i am not against the idea of systems that are not caused by trauma, but i am against the idea that they are not caused by a disorder.

dissociation is not inherently caused by trauma. i believe that it could be possible to have a dissocative disorder that looks a lot like a system i the way it does in DID/OSDD, even one that is self created (which i am against, as creating yourself a dissociative disorder is not a good idea). but it is inherently a disordered experience and i am completely anti-endo in the sense that i am against the idea that plurality is a non-disordered experience. it would not be like did/osdd in the sense that it would not be a developmental trauma response disorder, but the disorder could involve a system. but a system means dissociative parts, and that means disorder.

theres several dissociative disorders in the dsm which people include with discussing systems. just because it is under researched does not mean that it is impossible for another disorder that includes non-traumagenic systems does not exist.

there's even a type of osdd that includes people who have a dissociative disorder that formed in adulthood, although their alters are as a result of identity confusion as opposed to fragmented identities. but i do believe that could be considered a system, as can other experiences like it

however, as a critical subpoint:

I am fully against the intentional self creation of a system. tulpamancy is a closed practice so that is awful within its own right, but any form of self-created system is incredibly harmful. this includes trying to increase dissociation between various aspects of yourself, such as your "work self" and "home self", as well as trying to create new headmate in any form. im against the idea of anyone trying to intentionally give themselves a disorder at all.

i as mentioned, i am against the endogenic community as a whole for a variety of reasons. a rapid fire not extensive list includes:

- their support of the idea of non-disordered systems

- their ableism towards the idea of "being disordered"

- their support of self-created systems

- how a lot of them seem to reaffirm and intentionally trigger delusions. a lot of them see no issues with telling people who experience hallucinations and psychosis that they are a system because they "hear voices" and that those voices have "self agency". no. no no no. no.

- the large amounts of misinformation they spread

yall are free to tell me your thoughts on this though. i always accept that i can be wrong /gen

- Mikey

I am a traumagenic system, and also non disordered. We originated from trauma, but we do not meet the criteria for DID or OSDD, and we do not experience distress related to being a system. We do not wish to medicalise our experience of systemhood at all.

So, which part of our identity are you gonna wish to invalidate to make your theory still viable?

Personally I fail to see how dissociative experiences are inherently disordered, nor do I see how forming a system is inherently harmful. Can you justify these points OP?

Traumagenic as fuck here. We're definitely disordered in other ways, but not this one; in fact, our plurality helps us manage our issues. We also found out we were plural when we tried to develop a new mode of thinking and accidentally made a headmate.

Go ahead, I'd like to hear how we fit this theory.

another traumagenic system weighing in; we certainly were formed through horrific experiences but our plurality isn't a disorder now. we've learned to cooperate and manage our life in ways such that plurality HELPS us cope with the things in life (eg anxiety, depression, adhd) that are actually getting in the way of our ability to function.

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“white people can’t experience racism” is incredibly harmful to white passing jews who experience racism every single day for their jewishness but y’all aren’t willing to have that conversation.

they're experiencing antisemitism for being jewish, not experiencing racism for being white.

white people cannot experience anti-white racism. that isn't a thing. we don't need to "have that conversation" because there's still no world in which white people experience racism because they are white.

I never said it’s because they’re white, it’s in spite of being white. never alluded to it either. sorry you misread the post, but that’s not what I’m saying.

i didn't misread the post, i was adding to the post and clarifying what people are talking about when they talk about white people experiencing racism. no white people experience racism for being white. talking about white jews experiencing antisemitism as if this is a contradiction to the rule and something we ought to Have A Conversation about therefore is... simply a non sequitur. antisemitism is its own thing, and we can talk about that! it already covers the bigotry jews face.

“white people can’t experience racism” is incredibly harmful to white passing jews who experience racism every single day for their jewishness but y’all aren’t willing to have that conversation.

they're experiencing antisemitism for being jewish, not experiencing racism for being white.

white people cannot experience anti-white racism. that isn't a thing. we don't need to "have that conversation" because there's still no world in which white people experience racism because they are white.

As of 12/8/21, Kellogg's has broken off negotiations with their striking union workers and is electing to permanently replace the strikers. So needless to say, don't support strike breaking: don't buy Kellogg's products. Besides breakfast cereals, Kellogg's makes Cheez-Its, Pringles, and owns Kashi. I'm sure there's more that I'm not aware of, so if the hive mind wants to add to the list, please do.

TL;DR Don't buy Kellogg's products

https://bctgm.org/2021/10/08/5-ways-to-support-the-kelloggstrike/

Y’all have GOT to start actually reading what the strikers WANT you to do.

Kellogg’s is so big that “don’t buy their products” is virtually impossible, not to mention not possible for many individuals and families who can’t afford anything else. Not to mention that it is not a strategy the union is asking you to use.

That’s right- the union and the strikers are NOT asking for a boycott.

(If demand for products keeps going at its usual rate, but there is no one creating a supply, that creates building pressure on the Company to actually be forced to listen to the union in order to be able to meet the demand.)

According to the link above, here are the union’s ACTUAL requests:

Notice how “don’t buy Kellogg’s products” is NOWHERE on this list.

The link above does include things like a link to the petition, lists of picket lines in need of support, address lists to send support letters, and links to Strike Funds that need help.

The boilerplate “don’t buy their stuff” doesn’t help anyone, and doesn’t help the union or the strikers. In fact, it’s sometimes the opposite- if enough people go around claiming that the strikers want a boycott, the company can use that at the negotiating table to say that the strikers are in “bad faith”, and refuse to talk, or worse, try to use it to fire them.

Whenever there is a strike, find out what that PARTICULAR union wants as help. Now, it might actually be a boycott. But the union & the strikers will tell you that. I know this goes against popular preconceived notions about “what a strike is” and “how a strike works”, but in most cases, it will NOT be a boycott.

And in this case of the Kellogg’s strike, it is definitely not.

Keep buying the products. It’s putting pressure on Kellogg’s that a solution needs to be found.

Donate to Strike Funds, write letters of support, drop off food at picket lines. Make posts on social media about how reprehensible you think it is that the company would rather hire scabs than listen to their employees and treat them with dignity.

The best way to support any strike is to listen to what the strikers want you to do, and then do that.

Obligatory plug for the IWW union, “Industrial Workers of the World”, iww.org

You do not have to be an industrial worker to join it, or even employed at all. If you have a union to join, go for it! Or check out this one too. Unions are a great power- if they weren’t, companies and corporations wouldn’t be fighting against them tooth and nail.

#UnionStrong #SolidarityForever

article dated dec. 14, 2021! please pay attention to sources!

When they were negotiating, they didn't want a boycott, now they are explicitly asking for one.

If you can avoid it, don't buy Kellogg's brands. Support unions.

Does this apply globally?

Kellogg's is available in 180 countries (at least some of them), according to their website, it doesn't seem like they're called different things outside of North America from what I can tell. But it's a little unclear, tbh.

In Brazil, they own the Parati group-- apparently a food conglomerate.

They're also half stake holders in a Singaporean company('s food subsidiary) Multipro, and has stake in Tolaram Africa.

They also own Kashi, Rx Bar, and Pringles, which I think are more well known internationally?

So there are a lot of tactical reasons to boycott even if the union doesn't ask for that (they're often legally forbidden from asking for that, for example) you just shouldn't say they asked for it if it isn't true.

THAT BEING SAID there are also good selfish reasons to boycott scab labor, especially in any product that could present a health or safety hazard. Scab labor is full of mistakes and lowered standards, a company whose workers are striking will put out dangerous, contaminated products simply because everyone who knew how to make the product safely is gone and no one who's training the scabs knows what they're talking about.

Case in point:

Like, sure, don't buy scab-made products for solidarity reasons. But also? Don't buy scab-made products because you don't like eating fucking woodchips and string

feels good to come back to tumblr after months and proceed to ignore every single anon ask in my inbox like woo i do not need the racism

nor the antisemitism either

and i def do not need that specific intersection of them where people into my inbox to yell about how im not a real jew

feels good to come back to tumblr after months and proceed to ignore every single anon ask in my inbox like woo i do not need the racism

nor the antisemitism either

i dont believe the people saying its impossible for them to not use amazon for 2 days

if for some fucking reason you ABSOLUTELY cannot avoid ordering from amazon (which once again, i do not believe you) fucking order from like, Wish

Also maybe it’s INCONVINIENT for you guys not to use amazon… that’s still not an excuse to use amazon anyway. Strikes are supposed to be inconvinient and will always be inconvinient.