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chrkrose

So, I received an answer about the whole Caryl issue on the forum, and while I won’t post the screenshots here (I already ended the discussion and left them my reply), since my post caused a huge level of answers from people and TSDF, I thought I should make clear my position on it.

Nothing was solved and what I said was dismissed. Basically made me look like I was nuts for taking something that is not that of a big deal so serious, that the forum is not real life and that it was a little bit dramatic. Compared us to another group of shippers (while conventionally ignoring they were the ones who provided them space to be what they are today).

And that if it was for the best and he forum wasn’t the best place for us, while sad we were leaving, they couldn’t do anything about it.

So, this post is talking about my position and what I’m gonna do from now own, but in any way or shape I am talking in behalf of the entire fandom:

I’m not supporting tsdf anymore. I’m not supporting their treatment of shippers and the ship. And while I do recognize we have our fair of bad apples among us, that we are not always cool and polite, I know what I sent, my tone and how I reacted to all of this. I received hate over what happened over there, and still never treated any of the staff members with nothing but politeness. Unfortunately I didn’t receive the same, but I guess it is what it is.

I also wanted to point it out that while this is not real life, and that I am one of the people who is always making fun of basically everything fandom related, I do not take for granted what other people feel and what they are experiencing over there (or any other place).

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renee-walker
She has several great moments in the episode, but three scenes stand out on my second viewing of the episode (a feat I swore I’d never do again). First, Tyreese engages her in a conversation about his struggles with losing his girlfriend. McBride lives in the scene on the precipice of twitching with guilt, remaining stoic and reserved but raging inside with the desire to confess. She conveys an inner pain in her resolve to remain the vigilant protector – the woman who, unlike Rick, will make the hard choices. Yet, enough of the old Carol breaks through, allowing McBride to shed a few tears. It’s a quiet moment that foreshadows the tough choice she has to make later in the episode. It is this tough choice that highlights McBride’s most memorable sequence to date. The discovery of Lizzie’s horrible acts and her subsequent death will remain a hallmark of the series, one that people will always mention whenever The Walking Dead is discussed. McBride helped evolve the character of Carol into the woman who makes the tough choices. For the greater good. Yet, she mourns the consequences of those tough choices here. She emotionally collapses after convincing Lizzie not to “change” baby Judith, and, when she asks Lizzie to “look at the flowers” (a phrase I will never hear the same way again), the shock and awe McBride registers after shooting Lizzie in the back of the head sears your brain. As many times as Carol has killed in the series, McBride makes the moment feel like her very first time. Her final great scene is a quick one. Carol reveals to Tyreese that she killed his girlfriend, not Lizzie as he suspected. It would have been easy to continue the lie, but the episode’s story arc lead Carol to confess and prepare for her own punishment. When Tyreese ultimately forgives Carol, McBride quickly emits a near-silent, surprised gasp, unafraid to expose the relief she feels that Tyreese chooses not to kill her after all. Her eyes tell the story: she is grateful to be able to live with the burden. I celebrate McBride’s success here and favorably compare her work to the other great supporting actresses of this television season such as Anna Gunn (Breaking Bad) and Michelle Monaghan (True Detective). I don’t expect the Television Academy to recognize McBride’s brilliant work in such a difficult episode of a challenging, unsparing, and gruesome series. But if there are TV gods, then she will be rewarded with a statue come August. Few actresses in TV or film are granted the opportunity to play such notes, and McBride plays them like a virtuoso.

Clarence Moye, www.awardsdaily.com, 6.12.14 (x)

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Anonymous asked:

Based on TSDF comments, they don't care about how Carylers feel. Honestly, I feel like Carol/Caryl members of that forum are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. That forum will never ever be Pro Caryl/Carol, so why even bother posting over there? TWDzone is very Caryl/Carol friendly, so maybe fans of Caryl/Carol should switch forums? Just an idea.

You make a good point, in that, I don’t think the overall atmosphere will change. It’s a longtime one that has been cultivated. That said, it’s wrong that it’s like this, a forum SHOULD be welcome to all and not intentionally alienate fandom groups, and I see no harm in voicing opinions and observations in trying to enlighten and possibly change things for the better. Could it be the equivalent of pounding at a giant wall that has gotten so big it barely registers our tiny fists? Sure, and likely, but why not try? For me, I’ve got nothing to lose.

I’ve lurked about TWDZone as well and I think the atmosphere and people there are welcoming, thoughtful, and kind. I’d recommend others to check it out too.

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The anti-C@ryl agenda happening on TSDF forums, the way the threads are handled by the staff, what other members get away with in how they treat Carylers, is utter and complete bullshit. It’s also oddly reminiscent of how these fans were treated at another certain forum TSDF claims to be so much better than. I guess the STD is spreading.

I posted this in November, @thespoilingdeadfans . This problem isn’t new.

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remember when Mulan risked her life and her family’s honor to save her dad and ended up saving all of China from the Huns but Anna and Elsa are considered Disney’s feminist icons

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karkarkat

Remember when Tiana spent hours and hours working hard to save up for her own restaurant to make her dreams a reality without any man in the equation, but Anna and Elsa are the feminist icons?

Remember when Nani tried went from job to job so the social services would get off her back and let her keep her sister. Then when they did come for lilo she negotiated with them and when her sister was kidnapped; She beat up an alien with a branch demanding to be taken to her sister. But you know anna and elsa are the feminist icons?

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…That instead of being some sort of soul-crushing job, it was the exact opposite; which is this job that made you just feel like a superhero, and that you were in the one family that’s never loved a child more than in the history of the world, and that’s how I felt leaving this show. -John Krasinski

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