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marunalu

I saw many people people now who claim that DFO disproved because AFO doesn't show any affection to his son.

Also they claimed that Dekus dad could be a hero in America and he was sent to Japan now so we will see him.

What do you think about that?

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Dfo is debunked as soon as the manga ends and we have the 100% confirmation that there isnt any connection between hisashi and afo. Not sooner not later. What a lot of people dont seem to grasp is that dfo is in the first place not about afo loving izuku. Dfo is about the theory that afo is izukus biological father. He can be his father without loving him. There are millions of parents out there in the real world who sadly give a wet fuck about their children. Afo loving his family is just one of multible interpretations and hopes people have for the theory. There are a lot of dfo fans out there who never believed afo cared for izuku. Dfo is about afo being izukus father and not if he loves him or not. Fans have just different headcanons how it could turn out.

I said it already in the past. I dont believe that izukus father is a hero working in america. America is the country with the most heroes worldwide, so WHY should a japanese hero work for a different hero government then his own and most importantly not even come home ONCE or mentioned ONCE by his hero obsessed son in the whole story? Not even when he was about to get killed by muscular? Why should hisashi not come home for christmas, new year, izukus and inkos birthday etc. If he is just a hero working outside of japan (which makes no sense anyway). And WHY should hori refuse to talk about hisashi if he is just a hero working in an other country who has no importance to either the plot nor to izukus character? If hisashi is a hero working in america and NOW comes back after the war is already won by the japanese heroes this would be the biggest asspull hori could come up with. The only way I could see hisashi as a hero is if he is also connected to afo. We know that afos presence is huge WORLDWIDE! It was stated he has his hands in almost EVERY country! And we saw that he is quite "popular" in america.

I have seen a few people talk about how hori will use some deux ex machine to bring tomura back to life and that he is just scaring people with the most horrible and dissapointing outcome he could come up with. I dont trust hori enough to pull something like that off, but on the other side he is the man who brought bakugou back from the dead in the most ridiculus and stupid way possible so who knows what he is ready to come up with.

But to come back to the main point: dfo is only then debunked when we got the last chapter of the manga and its to 100% confirmed hisashi isnt afo. Because we are talking about a man who can change his appearance, change his dna, can have any quirk he wants, is known for planning ahead should the 10 different plans of the other 25 different plans he planned for 15 different scenarios fail and who spends time with a mad doctor who was not only in posession of a clone quirk, but also is able to make copys of every quirk he gets his fingers on.

The only advice I can give dfo fans is to wait and not to read any anti dfo posts and get worried for maybe no reason. Just wait till the manga is done and THEN you can complain as much as you want!

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marunalu

I just had a interesting thought. Lets say the clone for one theory is true and the afo we believed to be the real one was the clone the whole time (again lets remember that dr garaki had a clone too). What are the chances the man wasnt even aware that hes a clone? 🤔

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marunalu

Hi. Many fans disappointed with new chapter. I see many complaining. I am more pissed because of Bakugo.

I am now sure that in next chapter Izuku will be catched by Ochako or sonehow Shigaraki give Izuku OFA back or his original quirk. Dont know.

How do you think DFO will be revealed then Shigaraki and AFO destroyed? Both spirituality and phisicaly.

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Well, its no wonder people are upset after that shitfest of a chapter. That propably was the most anticlimactic final bossfight I have ever seen in a manga and after all the talking how izuku wants to safe tomura, dude just dies and izuku is fine with it. He just failed his attempt to save the person he wanted to save the most, but hey I guess the fistbum makes up for it (it does NOT!) Im actually curious how the japanese fanbase reacted to all of that.

I mean, of course hori had to force bakugou in it for a final time. Hes his golden baby boy afterall. Izuku cant do anything without bakugous or other peoples help. He is not allowed to shine on his own in his own fight against the main villain in HIS story. Nope, bakugou needed to help to give the final blow to afo TWICE, because HE is the true VIP of mha! I have actually seen quite a few bakugou fan who were not happy about it. If even his FANS complain about how forced and unnecessary that part was, maybe hori should ask himself if his staning for that one specific character is not going a little bit to far. I mean, seems like we just were all dumb. At the beginning of the story we were told izuku is a useless loser because he cant do anything without the help of others and in the end it turns out it was true. How could we not see that comming? The mc was not allowed to defeat the main villain himself and needs others, espicially his abuser to help him. Wow, what a great message! And the most depressing point is that hori was clearly trying to make that look like a positiv thing. There is one thing I can say for sure. I will never touch any work from hori ever again.

If this was really the conclusion of the final fight, then congratulation hori, you managed to write a more rushed and horrible conclusion for your story, then tite kubo did with bleach (which to be fair was not kubos fault but shonen jumps). Hori did literally EVERY SINGLE character except bakugou dirty and in the end even startet to write against his own established themes in the story.

Regarding dfo: I already mentioned it a few times in the past. Im still positiv dfo is canon BUT I also said I dont think anymore that dfo will end in a satisfying way. Which actually goes against what hori said, that readers wont feel dissapointed when he reveals hisashis true identity. But, right now I dont see how hori plans to manage that even with a twist. Even if lets say the clone theory ends up true (which would be hilarious because I was JOKING when I came up with it), it still would feel like so much wasted potential. And the thing is, while it would make me happy if it turns out true I would still be mad about all the rest hori fucked up which would make it impossible for me to enjoy the dfo reveal. And as much as I love dfo, if it turns out the afo clone theory is true and hisashi is the real afo who gets a happy ending while tomura stays dead and doesnt get one after everything afo did to him and the rest of the lov stay miserable too, I will still give hori the middlefinger. The only way I would be able to enjoy it is if hisashi ends up as the afo clone who choose a different path then his original body. It would still make dfo canon just in a unexpected way and it could be interesting to see in hisashi that afo COULD have been happy if he had choose a similar way.

I dont know, maybe in the end there is really some kind of twist involved. Shonen jump still hasnt announced that mha will end in the next few chapters and normally they do that at least 5-10 chapters before the final chapter. Maybe we are just panicking over nothing and hori has all planned out. Maybe there is more to come. We really cant say for sure. There are still some plots who need answers and I cant see how hori wants to conclude everything in just 2 more chapters. On the other side this final arc was horrible rushed, even more horrible written and all in all a big dissapointment and waste of a lot of peoples time.

Who knows maybe thats why there is a break next week. So hori can wait for the reactions of the readers and include whatever twist he may think could work.

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marunalu

The picture on the cover (which is very clearly supossed to be afo) reminds me of the story of "daddy longleg".

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ernand-0

Hori is just messing with us at this point

Here is something someone pointed out to me on the AFO discord. I don't know Japanese, so take things with a grain of salt to not spread misinformation! But. . . Koga - the construction company that AFO had/worked at.

How it's written in the Japanese version: 甲 - armour/first class 賀 - celebration.

Okay, nothing specific.

BUT... What other way can Koga be spelled as? 久我

AND GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS!

久- Hisashi 我 - I/myself (I am Hisashi) … Yea

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marunalu

The only good thing about that chapter is the fact it means this horrible and disastrous arc will be finally and thankfully over and the manga will most likely end soon. Im really glad that Im not that invested in mha anymore otherwise I would be way more pissed off. Unbelievable how you can fuck up an final arc so bad and do your own characters so dirty.

Izuku deserved better.

Tomura deserved better.

Mr compress literally sacreficed his own ass for nothing. He deserved better.

Every single other lov member deserved better.

The ua students deserved better.

The ofa vestiges deserved better.

Afo deserved better.

The ONLY character hori paid attention to and cared about was that horrible written, ugly and screaming waste of space, who he calls his favorite character.

Listen, I get that the job of a mangaka is stressful and can have bad effects on your health. But that doesnt justify you should rush the end of the story and dissapoint your readers like that. That an author cant make everyone of his readers happy is logical, but with this chapter it feels like hori deliberately planned to piss off almost the whole fanbase and Im not sure he can turn this around again even with a twist in the next chapters.

Im a big dfo believer and I still think its canon. I believe hori will keep his promise when he said "you wont be dissapointed" when hisashi will finally be "revealed". But even if he confirms it at the very end, the rest of this manga was sadly still a huge dissapointment and waste of my time. Dont make one of your main themes "villains are humans too and deserve to be saved" if in the end they die anyway all alone and miserable or will end up in prison. Yes, they should face consequences for their crimes, but they cant become better people again, if they are DEAD! Dont choose a theme for your story if in the end you go against it!

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shiroforest

Welp, even if AFO shows no reaction nor mention Izuku when he's about to vanish (again), there's still no mention of Izuku's real father.

Unless we see concrete proof that Izuku's father is not AFO by showing who Izuku's father really is, I'm not convinced that DFO theory isn't true

ESPECIALLY now that Izuku's birthday is around the corner (15th July), and last year, we got this cover from horikoshi-sensei in a chapter released in 19 july (a release date that's close to Izuku's birthday)

At least in this chapter, we got to see that Izuku sees AFO as who he really is, a HUMAN who is lonely, not some unfathomable monster, nor a demon lord

Like how Luke Skywalker sees Anakin Skywalker as who he really is in star wars

Also, if DFO Theory really turns out to be wrong, then Horikoshi-sensei really tricked us with Izuku& AFO's parallels and similarity, like how Kudou (2nd OFA user) and Bakugo looks similar but not related at all

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|| THEORY TIMEEE ||

|| DAMN- ||

|| Imagine Afo having almost the same goal as Endeavor at some point: Combining Quirks. ||

|| What if Afo wanted to have a quirk that didn't have the same weakness as his, he wanted to have an All For One that could steal quirks from distance, and what better way to do it than having an heir? ||

|| But to have an heir, he needed a woman with a quirk that could attract things to her, and that's where Inko comes in ||

|| Her quirk was just what Afo needed, and on top of that, she was manipulable, she was perfect for the plan, but then a problem came in to ruin everything: Hisashi Midoriya ||

|| Most likely by that time they would be married and happy, and just that, was a problem for Afo but when he realized that Hisashi worked in Koga Construction, something came to his mind. ||

|| Afo began to monitor Hisashi and learn his behaviors with people and especially with Inko, and one day, Afo summoned Hisashi to "build" something for him, and when Hisashi arrived... Afo killed him. ||

|| After getting rid of the body, Afo using the Quirk to change appearance, he changed his appearance and took on Hisashi's. (Evidence that Afo does have a Quirk like that in the photo ↓) ||

|| "Hisashi" returned home with his wife, and after a month or more time, he convinces her to have a child ||

|| And well, then Izuku was born ||

|| It is more than obvious that the plan worked, since in the manga Izuku currently shows TOO many signs of having a quirk ||

|| So the question with this theory is... What happened? Why didn't Afo steal Izuku's quirk? ||

|| And don't tell me that "Maybe his quirk was like Yoichi's and they couldn't tell it was really there" BECAUSE THEY KNEW. ||

|| In this publication we are taught some human biology, and, in short, The Doctor Gairaki, lie, THIS BALD SON OF A BITCH LIED TO INKO AND IZUKU IN THEIR FUCKING FACE. ||

|| But why? Why Afo ordered the Doctor to lie?? Why not steal the quirk and say that Izuku was quirkless??? ||

|| For this I bring two possible reasons: ||

1) Izuku's quirk CANNOT be stolen by Afo so he just compressed it and waited for Izuku to decide on his own to be a villain so he could tell him the truth later, and then make him his true successor and the Prince of Demons.

2) Afo ended up becoming fond of Izuku because his appearance and behavior is similar to that of Yoichi, but as we already know...

someone died for using their quirk for the first time.. Soooo Izuku using his quirk didn't seem like a very good idea to Afo.

|| Either option can be possible, it could even be both! (I say this because Afo HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO KILL IZUKU OR INKO AND NEVER DID ANYTHING TO THEM WHEN THAT PLUM BITCH KILLED NANA'S HUSBAND AND THE WHOLE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF KUDOU-) ||

|| But well now we just have to wait to see how the Dad For One Theory will become canon ||

|| And remember! ||

|| Have hope that the theory will become reality! If Horikoshi already did something like this with Tomura/Tenko and with Dabi/Touya then the theory is not so crazy that it cannot be canonized! ||

|| Horikoshi never disappoints the fandom!! ||

✧ Credits to @gothicayomi and @zelyres for they incredible theories!✧

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huiiiooo

AFO stealing the identity of one 'Hisashi Midoriya' is something I have never considered however it is extremely possible, It's something he would do

|| In fact, something that I didn't add in the theory (because I was sleepy and didn't want to write more-) Is that maybe this is why Horikoshi feels like he wants to apologize to Inko. ||

|| I mean, imagine Inko in all this, she was just having a normal and happy life with her husband, and then a villain comes to kill and replace her husband and rape her (Because of course Inko probably thought that her husband just wanted to have a family, when in reality was Afo) just to have a child with a strong quirk, I can't imagine how devastated Inko would be if this really happened and someone (Probably Izuku) told her after the war, any woman would be destroyed and terrified if they knew the love of they life was murdered in cold blood and replaced all this time. ||

also All for one hinted at having more than one member of his family capable of interacting with Vestiges, because of his Quirk

|| OH MY GOD, IMAGINE THAT BASTARD WENT AND USED HISASHI'S DEAD BODY FOR SOME NOMU AFTER STEALING HIS QUIRK- (I just thought about that possibility idk) ||

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marunalu

While an interesting theory, personally I dont think this will happen. Inko being raped by afo (because she wasnt aware he isnt her husband when she sleeped with him) would be a pretty dark path for hori to go and I dont think shonen jump would allow that. Remember, they cencored that originally afos/yoichis mother was supposed to be a prostitute and changed it into "homeless woman". I cant see how they would ever allow that the mother of the mc was raped without her knowledge.

I also feel like this kind of scenario needs to much explaining and would turn things just more complicated, espicially now so close to the end of the manga. It could have worked if dfo was revealed 4 arcs ago. Why complicate things even more with "oh afo killed hisashi midoriya and took his identity" instead of just "afo changed his appearance and dna to look more appealing and trustworthy to a young woman and took on the name hisashi". Way less unnecessary complicated and with the same final result, then adding a new character nobody will care about since he is already long dead and meaningless to the plot and not related to the mc anyway. That would just feel like a filler and its not like as if hori hasnt dotzen of other still open plot points that need closure. Please dont ad an other one. He hasnt even revealed yet what happend to little tsubasa.

And again, since shonen jump didnt even allow the word "prostitute" in relation to the main villains mother, I really doubt they will allow that the mother of the mc was raped by the murderer of her real husband! But still an fascinating (and dark) "what if" au.

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seri-41

SPOILER FOR MHA CHAPTER 423

I don't know if this is official, but allegedly it’s a leak from the next chapter. Izuku looks traumatized. Which is understandable cuz the boy is fighting a fucking war against AFO but he seems in severe emotional pain vs when he was running confidently in the previous chapter. Did AFO kill his friends or some of the students? Did he harm his teacher?

….Or did he show him something he didn't want to see? Perhaps something about his father? Hmmmm? Izuku looks like he discovered something shocking. Maybe it has to do something he doesn't want to see or do- like kill his own father-

Don't take my word for it- this might be a longg stretch but his reaction is kinda odd vs all the shit that happened to him.

Wasn't he running into battle with faith in his shoulders?

This is supposed the be THE CLIMAX so we’ll wait and see 🙏🙏🙏

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kitsunefyuu

-reading my selkie Inko and AFO fanfic- Wow it specifically hits all my favorite things~

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marunalu

I had never realized that Hisashi doesn't even go home for New Year's, as it is extremely common for people who work far from home to come back to at least spend New Year's with their family, he doesn't do that... Tsuyu's parents work abroad and come home sometimes

also apparently Inko just didn't question or find strange her son suddenly having yet another Quirk

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I remember I talked with a few others about that 2 years ago or so. The fact that hisashi doesnt even come home for new year despite that its considered the most important family holiday in japan is the main reason why I dont and cant believe that he is a normal guy working in an office or even as a hero somewhere overseas. No matter how far away they work and no matter how important the job is, japanese people will always come home for new year and visit their family. New year for them is more important then christmas, birthdays or any other kind of special days and holidays. If hisashi has only an office job abroad there is no way why he shouldnt come home for the most special day you are supposed to spent with your loved ones.

And the same goes if he was a hero working outside of japan. Why should a japanese man work as a hero overseas and not in his own home country in the first place? All the countrys have their own heroes. We dont see any heroes from other countrys LIVING in japan and working there, so why should it be the other way around? Also, lets not even mention there is no way that hisashi is a hero and izuku wouldnt have mentioned him and that fact at least once. As if izuku would be able to shut up about his hero father. And like I mentioned, lets say some heroes do work and live in other countrys then their own home country, thats again no reason for hisashi not to show up home at new year! Nobody can tell me other countrys dont have enough heroes on their own so one of them cant visit his family for ONE DAY! Nope! No way! Hisashi is neither an normal office guy nor is he a hero. It would make zero sense at this point of the story.

But hisashi being secretly a villain, needing to hide his identity and isolating himself from his family? Thats a whole other story and explains perfectly why he cant just show up in front of their appartment door. Not even to mention that neither inko nor izuku seem to question his absence and are sad about it. They behave as if their family only was just the two of them and thats why I still go with the "memory manipulation quirk" theory that made hisashis existence simply vanish from their memorys.

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demidokuriya

Honestly, I'm surprised how some people keep using the argument that Izuku's father works overseas to refute the DFO theory

The fact is not a strong argument, because in Chapter 59, in which AFO was first shown, he was in a skyscraper that looks suspiciously like the Chrysler Building in New York.

You can compare a frame in a manga to a photo of a real building, they are literally the same thing.

Horikoshi definitely uses real buildings in his manga.

So, technically, if the DFO is confirmed, the information about the Izuku's father working abroad would not be a lie. Because AFO was actually abroad at the beginning of the manga.

I just want to remind you that Horikoshi is very attentive to detail. Consider the fact that Dabi's birthday contained information about his real identity.

And remember what Horikoshi said at SDCC 2018.

The latest arc may have shaken the faith of some DFO fans, but it's still a solid theory that hasn't been debunked. Now that Izuku is in combat with AFO, anything can happen.

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huiiiooo

Every time AFO and Inko were on the same page

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huiiiooo

The two times that Inko appeared in the arc involved Izuku and AFO in some way

The first was in the chapter where All for one died, she appears rooting for Izuku

And the second is now in chapter 422 when Izuku starts his fight with AFO

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mallas28

IZUKUS BIG MOMENT NO HISASHI

I keep laughing that we see Izuku in his big moment of life. And Horikoshi shows all people who somehow connected to Izuku cheering for him

And no Hisashi. No. NOT A hint.... Am i the only one who sees that at suspicious as F#%## ?!

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seri-41

Lowkey I agree but who tf is this.

If anyone knows who this is please comment.

Yes he looks like Izuku. But that guy already was shown cheering for All Might. By the way that dude has child near him.

And art narrative suppose that Hisashi will be shown parallel with Inko.

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