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Juvia isn’t a stalker

This is an old, very frustrating argument for Gruvia fans that shouldn’t even exist anymore. This post also shouldn’t exist because I am refuting something Juvia didn’t actually do, but this is what it’s come down to, sadly. The bottom line is that Juvia can not redeem herself for an issue that Mashima-sensei, the author, doesn’t believe exists (aka the non-existent stalking).

I. The amount of times Juvia watched Gray and why

Juvia did not stalk Gray EVER, but she did hang in the background. He and the guild had been the enemy. If she had walked right up to Gray and his friends, there would have been a backlash. It’s natural that she was afraid because of the damage she helped inflict. Despite this, she formed an affinity to Gray and Fairy Tail which she carefully approached to the best of her ability.

As it also shows in her memories, Juvia had a well-established history of being shunned because of her rain which further led to her tentative approach. Additionally, given the rejection and shunning of the past, Juvia lacked the developmental opportunity to refine social engagement. There was no malicious intent in her actions. She was afraid of being rejected again, so she kept her distance. 

And in fact, Juvia and Gajeel’s presence in Fairy Tail DID cause a backlash. Laxus and the Raijinshuu did get angry when they found out two former Phantom Lord members who had attacked the guild were allowed to join.

Yet, both Juvia and Gajeel made up for their former transgressions already against the specific members they had targeted by protecting them. Juvia protected Gray from Simon, and Gajeel protected Levy from Laxus. That was supposed to be their redemption…IT WAS THEIR REDEMPTION. As stated in the first paragraph, in bold this time: Juvia can not redeem herself for an issue that Mashima-sensei, the author, doesn’t believe exists (aka the non-existent stalking). 

Ultimately, Juvia did approach Gray when he was by himself to ask what he thought about her joining Fairy Tail.  This was their first direct meeting after they met in Chapter 56. Indirect encounters include chapter 67 where she observed from afar and delivered a bento and chapter 75 where we see her watching Gray and the rest of team Natsu at the resort.

It was at this point that Juvia approached Gray properly when she finally caught him alone, and they went to get drinks together. It’s supported by the manga that Juvia joining Fairy Tail would have caused a backlash, as even Gray was wary of her joining because of the things that they did, but he personally did not mind her joining.  Juvia then spent the rest of the arc openly helping Gray and his friends in the Tower Of Heaven. 

At the end of the arc, when Erza asked after Juvia, Gray was the one who knew her name, and where she had gone. Once team Natsu returned to FT, Juvia became a member, and Gray was quite happy about it. After chapter 75 Juvia has never in the manga followed Gray without his knowledge again until chapter 416, where she came to apologize for what happened to Gray’s father. 

When Gray seemed dismayed that Juvia had followed him to his parents grave, she immediately apologized

In fact, Juvia has apologized a few times within the series when she thought she upset Gray, including in 413 Days when she apologized for fearing that she ruined Gray’s day of mourning. But, in fact, Gray ended up also apologizing to her, because he thought it was his fault. He profusely apologized to her in chapter 416 as well while sobbing in her arms.

II. Gray’s feelings

If Gray was so uncomfortable and disliked Juvia’s presence, the above scene would not have happened. He appreciates and is grateful for Juvia always being next to him, which by default completely annihilates the claim that he is disgusted by her. This is obvious because we see the change in their relationship throughout the course of the manga, on panel. I repeat, Gray likes the fact that Juvia is always by his side and wants her there.

Furthermore, Juvia’s comedic advances and Gray’s reactions (which have actually become softer/changed) are exaggerated on purpose. Japanese love this type of humor use in their mangas. It’s meant to be lighthearted, not give off an awful message regarding a pairing. As with many shounen, panel space is often limited for character interactions, so “dramatic” presentations are necessary for conveying points. Mashima-sensei has only ever portrayed Juvia’s love as a positive thing for both characters. Her love for Gray has saved not just Gray’s life, but also the lives of others on multiple occasions. 

While it’s true Mashima-sensei loves using Juvia for comic relief from time to time, it’s important to not let the jokes outweigh the serious moments. In reality, we are not supposed to put so much stock into comedy. Adding to the fact that Juvia’s fight with Meredy proved her love for Gray to be genuine, there’s another factor some people seem to miss.  

In the final chapter of the Tartarus arc, Juvia was about to give up on her love for Gray because she believed she did not have the right to love him anymore. She truly thought it was for his sake, and was prepared to be hated by Gray forever. An obsessive person or crazy stalker would never do this. But Juvia did, expecting this would ruin any chance she had with Gray, and was positive she would be loathed. However she knew confessing what she did was the right thing to do and came clean. Here, Mashima-sensei is showing the difference between an unhealthy obsessed individual and someone who’s love is selfless as they put the other person’s feelings above their own. Above all, Gray didn’t let Juvia give up on him. He embraced her, thanked her, and cried in her arms.

Chapter 499 speaks for itself, so I really don’t see the need to touch upon it other than the fact that the Japanese raw text confirms that Gray does see Juvia as more than a friend, aka, a love interest. As if his actions in the chapter and prior to weren’t enough. Double suicide in Japan is one of the most romantic acts of love based on samurai history.

III. The definition of a stalker
  • a person who harasses or persecutes someone with unwanted and obsessive attention.
  • a person who harasses another person, as a former lover, a famous person, etc., in an aggressive, often threatening and illegal manner.

Neither of the above definitions describes Juvia’s character. Juvia would be the last person in the world to harass or threaten Gray in any way. The two times she watched him were harmless and there were justified reasons behind them. Back to the definition; Juvia doesn’t need to do any of these things, because she is Gray’s friend, and at this point, so much more than that. She’s a partner, they go on missions together, socialize together, and have even lived together. 

Real cases for stalking often involve the stalker having control over their victim, sometimes employing fear in a desperate attempt to maintain control, which Juvia has NEVER done. Admiring someone from afar is not the same as stalking them, especially when you don’t have the courage to talk to them. That’s why Juvia quickly threw the bento in Gray’s hands without trying to be noticed. She wanted to do nice things for him, but couldn’t do them directly out of nervousness. That’s not what stalkers do. And of course, as stated above, Juvia was about to give up on Gray. Stalkers aren’t willing to give up their ties with the person.

Juvia does not need to “stalk” Gray. She stands proudly by his side with no reluctance from him.

And even more importantly Gray has never expressed any adversity to Juvia’s presence. If anything, he has expressed the opposite. Gray of his own accord hangs around her. And Gray had mentioned once in 338 that he would say no to the things he dislikes from then on. Yet he had never said no before, nor after that statement. In fact, he contradicted his own statement later on by eating the bread Juvia offered him, and holding her hand in comfort during the Tartarus arc.  

We also have to keep in mind Gray falls under the tsundere character trope, which means his actions often contradict his words, and as stated above, his adverse reactions are often played off comedically, because he is not being honest about his actual feelings. Juvia’s earnest feelings towards Gray usually cause the cool and collected character to lose his composure. That’s the joke. 

IV. Conclusion

Juvia is often labeled a stalker while we look past Gajeel crucifying Levy or Jellal trying to murder Erza. All of these things occurred at the beginning, but have ceased to be current habits. That’s character development. It’s one thing to not like a ship because of the dynamic. But it’s a double standard to hail the development of one ship and ignore another. People simply cannot move passed Juvia’s first impression, and that is sad.

Every pairing has its shtick, such as Natsu touching Lucy inappropriately and breaking into her house, and Levy hitting Gajeel often. Humor is completely subjective, that’s true, however it’s obvious what Mashima-sensei intends to fall under the umbrella of humor, and that absolutely includes Juvia’s antics and Gray’s reactions to them. Saying they aren’t meant to be funny is just being purposely oblivious and contrary. You don’t have to think it’s funny to know it’s meant as a joke. Gruvia gets condemned by the fandom the most when it comes to their particular aspect of humor, and that is unfair. 

This is a fictional world, they are fictional characters, and they do not have to meet real life standards. Many of the characters within Fairy Tail have quirks or perform actions that are not acceptable in reality. Fairy Tail itself is a fantasy manga. The world and the characters are exaggerated for the purpose of drama and comedy. This fantasy world is also based on Japanese humor and storytelling conventions, and ignoring this fact can lead to misunderstanding characters. 

Juvia has not watched Gray from a distance without his knowledge since before she joined Fairy Tail. That was at least 8-9 years ago in both our timeline and the manga time line (counting the 7 year time skip). No one in the Fairy Tail universe, nor Mashima-sensei, seem to think Juvia’s actions from her introduction need to be addressed or redeemed, because it is a non-issue that only certain parts of the fandom can’t let go of. She will not vocally apologize for a problem that doesn’t exist. 

Gray, especially, has gone so far passed his initial relationship and dynamic with Juvia. It’s sad that so many fans are concerned on Gray’s behalf, but never truly take Gray’s actual feelings or words into consideration. He cares for Juvia, he almost definitely loves Juvia romantically, and he is grateful she is by his side. He’s willing to go above and beyond, including sacrificing his life for her (twice) just to ensure her safety. Those are not the feelings of someone who is a victim of stalking. 

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Can you imagine Naruto and Sasuke in their 20s wrecking shit and beating the hell out of each other until they are unable to get up like: 

Naruto: Ah, shit.

Sasuke: What?

Naruto: *tries to point with broken finger* I see a wife…

Sasuke: Mine or yours?

Naruto: Does it matter? 

Sasuke: *scoffs* If it’s yours, we may live. If it’s mine, we’re dead.

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lol I seriously love how the Uzumaki siblings were first introduced into the series. First you have Boruto:

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who had us all thinking, ”Omg he’s obviously Narutos son but who’s the mother???” ” Who did Naruto marry???” BUT THEN!!

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There she is.

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The legend herself.

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The one who ended it once and for all.

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Anonymous asked:

I used to like Sakura but Karin proved to be better than her. Karin had better reasons to love sasuke. She was abused as a child and seeing sasuke smile gave her a warmth. Sakura had a privileged af childhood and only fell in love with sasuke due to his status and looks. It upsets me how desperate Sakura is to be with him. She didn't even know his character (unlike naruto) and yet she was contemplating who to save a criminal (which is what she/everyone else besides naruto believes) vs naruto

“And only fell in love with Sasuke due to his status and looks”

Yeah, I’m no longer gonna waste my time putting effort into answering anyone else who still believes this nonsense. I’ve deconstructed this ignorant comment time and time again and can’t be asked to do it anymore. So I’m just gonna give a bunch of statements, since that’s all this warrants.

  • Karin didn’t have better reasons for loving Sasuke, they both wanted to see him smile again.
  • I have no idea where on earth you got the idea that Sakura’s childhood was “privileged”. Just because she didn’t experience the same type of emotional trauma as some of the other characters doesn’t mean that she was privileged.
  • It upsets me how desperate some people can be to prove that Sakura’s aim was to be with Sasuke, when it was proven time and time again that this wasn’t a goal of hers.
  • You don’t want to get into a discussion with me regarding how well Sakura “knew” Sasuke.
  • The fact of the matter is, Sasuke was a criminal. Whether or not Naruto refused to acknowledge him as such doesn’t make him a better person or a better match for Sasuke; it’s simply acknowledging the truth.
  • When did she ever “contemplate” who to save between the two of them? That literally never happened.
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nymre

lazely finished my piece for zutara week 2016! sadly a couple days too late ; v; 

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madara-fate
Anonymous asked:

So Sasuke told Sakura "you're annoying." 3 different times.. how do you think the meaning behind it is different each time? PS I love your blog! You do such an amazing job at analyzing stuff!

The manner in which its meaning changed each time he said it is easy to tell due to the context of the conversation and his facial expressions (but many antis just pay attention to the words and nothing else; go figure). The first time he said it, he actually meant it:

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Sakura was being a little ignorant of the hardships faced by orphans, which was rather insensitive of her considering Sasuke’s own status as an orphan. Thus, he called her annoying, and rightfully so.

The second time he said it was more of a tease than anything else, which was again made clear by the context but especially his expression; that’s not the face of someone who’s annoyed. He said it to indicate to Sakura that what he said earlier, regarding how he didn’t remember that day by the bench, was actually a lie; he remembered it as vividly as she did:

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It still baffles me that some antis actually still think he meant it here, and even the next time he said it. The 2nd time Sasuke calls her annoying, it was very similar to the manner in which Shikamaru calls Temari a “troublesome woman”; in other words, it was almost more of a satirical gesture. This was his face leading up to him calling her annoying the first time:

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He’s looking at her with clear discontent as Sakura makes light of being an orphan. Contrast that with his face leading up to the 2nd time he called her annoying:

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He’s deep in thought, contemplating a multitude of things because her words make him falter and doubt his resolve. There’s no malice or scorn in his expression like there was the first time. This expression is soft, regretful, but determined to realise his ambition.

The 3rd time he said it was mainly due to her words causing him to falter again, and recall the love he felt from his family; she was causing him to remember the past love, a happy life, all things that he was now trying to sever his ties with because he believed those things were out of his reach:

And even though he had accepted that, for the sake of his revolution, he wasn’t necessarily happy about it. He was aware this path wouldn’t bring him happiness; he agreed with Sakura when she told him that in 181, and his face here just proves it. It was literally the exact same, pained smile that Sakura had displayed earlier during the war:

That should tell everyone something about the inner turmoil within Sasuke, and how much the curse of hatred was influencing him. You’d think antis would get the same message, but some just refuse to acknowledge the significance of the curse.

But yeah, that’s my take on the matter :)

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