idk if u know but by the sounds of some of ibb's latest tweets, sn is fired/let go? at least i hope he is. :x

We’ve heard, and can confirm that SN is no longer a member of the band. They will not be working with him again in the future.

-X

Glad to see ur back for the time being. Longtime follower of this blog (like 4 years but that's sill pretty long) and when I heard of the MR stuff and new IBB stuff going around, I was wondering if anyone on tumblr was talking about it, and then I saw you were posting again! I remember first finding out about this stuff and it shocked me to my core, especially since it was the day my art was reblogged onto the official tumblr. It'll be interesting to watch what unfolds now.

Hey, that IS a long time! You’ve been here since about when we started!

Honestly, I hate that I’m back. I would really prefer not to be. I think the ULTIMATE ultimate goal of this blog is definitely to not have to exist anymore. 

The stuff with MR is absolutely horrible, but I am glad that they decided to call him out, though I think they could and should have done it quite a few years ago. I am also interested in what happens next, especially if people start contacting her about issues that involve band members other than MR, which apparently she IS open to, even though her tweet didn’t specify.

(Reminder to all that her DMs are open on twitter @/B*nny_B*nnett.)

When you said that people’s accusations were actual evidence, I cringed. ACCUSATIONS AREN’T EVIDENCE! If you took this to court and said “what’s better evidence than a direct account from the victim,” they’d laugh in your face. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Probably no. This entire page is ridiculous. While you’re being hateful to Steam Powered Giraffe because of accusations, I’ll be listening to them and enjoying myself. So excited for 1896!

This is not a court of law. This is just a blog, and one that you don’t even have to look at if you don’t want to... but since you brought it up -

What would you consider evidence in a situation where a grown adult man is making inappropriate comments to a minor? Flirting with them? Touching them? Kissing them? (Don’t say “video” because we have one of those already. It’s still not enough. We have witnesses, too. Still not enough.)

What would you consider evidence in a situation where the harassment takes place online? In livestreams that weren’t saved? Blogs that were deleted? Private messages and email? (Don’t say “screenshots,” because everyone knows you can fake those. It’s still not enough. There’s witnesses for these things as well, and that’s still not enough, either.)

Sometimes the only evidence is a victim’s account of what happened to them. When so many victims over several years who probably don’t even know each other have similar stories, that’s pretty damning, in my opinion. 

I am also not being “hateful of a band because of accusations” I am hurting because they hurt people I love. They hurt me. My pain is not performative. When people tell me to my face that the things I experienced, or my friends experienced, didn’t happen... I honestly can say that person’s opinion on the subject does not have much value to me. You can think whatever you like, but you don’t have to invalidate everyone’s experiences. You can keep it to yourself.

Thanks for the message, and I hope you enjoy the new album - may it be even better than the last!

-X

The entire band deserves death for what they have done. That said, people see through your own games. You are a parasite seeking revenge against parasites who rejected you. How many years had it been? Pathetic.

Personally, I don’t feel very comfortable wishing death on everyone in the band. I want them to take responsibility for their actions, apologize to those they’ve hurt, get rid of SN, and have them all accept whatever the consequences to their actions would be... and then move on and be better than they have before. I've been informed that IBB has been working on that lately, which I think is a good start.

I also get the impression that you probably haven’t seen much of this blog, because I’m not actually seeking revenge. I want people to be aware of the band’s past so they can be safe in their interactions with them. If I’m “seeking” absolutely anything at all, it isn’t revenge. It’s closure. It’s peace.

I'm not going to be fazed by your insults, either. You don’t know what they did to me. How many years have you been holding a grudge against me for being traumatized? You can block this account at any time.

I hope you, too, can find peace some day.

-X

But where were you when IBB actually admitted to being a shitty person in the past these past few months and has spoken a lot about how she has been working on herself with how she has treated people in the past??? Do you just wanna focus on the bad and beat dead horses the entire time or actually do full research of the things that have happened since this blog's hiatus?? Don't say you're not here to hate or this isn't good for the admin's mental health but then proceed make a twitter for this

Where was I when BB recently admitted to being abusive previously and has spoken a lot about self improvement and recovery?  Do I just wanna focus on the bad, or actually do full research of things that happened since this blog's hiatus?

I have not been a member of the fanmily for years. I don’t follow them anywhere. I don’t watch any of their content. Somebody just contacted me to tell me that drama was going down on her twitter account about MR that they thought I should be aware of. Many others have messaged me about it too. I’m actually pretty disappointed that nobody thought IBB’s videos on her mental health and abusive past were something that I should be aware of, too. I’m actually very proud of her for working on herself, and I wish her all the best in her efforts.

Honestly, I’m not interested in catching up on all of the content I missed in the last several years. I didn’t know the thing you’re talking about existed until right now, and perhaps I’ll give it a watch sometime. However, this current drama regarding her is about MR & SN. She still says that all accusations against SN are fake. Being upset about that doesn’t seem like beating a dead horse, to me, considering the circumstances.

I can’t say I’m not here to hate or that this blog is harmful to my mental health while also making a twitter account for it.

I can say I’m not here to hate, because I’m not. I can say running this blog is harmful to my mental health, because it is. The reason I made a twitter account for it was answered in a previous ask:  “I [saw] some people linking to this blog when I was reading their new threads though, and that inspired me to make a twitter account so that still-unaddressed allegations could be more accessible to twitter users, especially the band who specifically asked for people to contact them about their pain.”

I am currently choosing to risk my own mental health by temporarily reviving this blog to deal with something that has been swept under the rug for far too long. 

I apologize that you don’t like me or my blog. You’re allowed to block us.

Thank you for your concern & message. I hope the rest of your week goes well.

-X

Aaaand not sure why you're confused about being blocked because even I can see you promoting your clearly-stated anti-SPG blog/posts/accounts under their tweets. I'm not sure why you wanna spin that to add to the bad guy David narrative, but I know that if someone made a blog to specifically target me and encourage others to do the same I... wouldn't be happy about it???

Anon, I’m going to be totally honest with you - 

I haven’t promoted any blogs, posts, or accounts under any of their tweets. I also didn’t ask anyone else to. I did see some people linking to this blog when I was reading their new threads though, and that inspired me to make a twitter account so that still-unaddressed allegations could be more accessible to twitter users, especially the band who specifically asked for people to contact them about their pain. I unfortunately did not get the opportunity to do that.

I wouldn’t be happy if somebody made a blog to target me and encourage others to target me either, but we’re not “targeting” anyone. We’re just trying to get them to listen and stop pretending that some things never happened.

Our goal is to spread awareness so people can stay safe, and get them to hold themselves accountable for their actions. They have yet to do so.

Thanks for the message, and sorry for the misunderstanding.

-X

I've been a fan of spg since 2014. I was going through a huge depressive episode and they were a light in the darkness, and I consumed a lot of media from them for a long time. I didn't have any social media, so I was in the dark about their behavior. Recently, however, I've seen the things theyve done and excused and it's made me not want to watch them anymore. I'm so sorry to the victims for how long so much of this was ignored. The band should have been held accountable in the beginning.

Their whimsical characters, worlds, lore, and music helped me at a time, too. Though, even with the light they bring into many of our lives, the darkness they also bring should not have been deemed insignificant and ignored for as long as it has been. Such harm, even if truly unintentional, needs to be handled appropriately - apologies given, reparations made, and consequences accepted.

At the moment, much of their fans’ pain is still being denied and regarded as rumors, which causes more hurt even still. 

The band should have been held accountable in the beginning, but the next best time is now.

-X

Honestly i wish i respected this blog sooner because this information on this blog really is important

It is, but I get where that disrespect may come from. I was in the fandom for several years, and I saw a lot of bullying from both past and current fans, sometimes anonymously, sometimes threatening, and sometimes without context as to why it was happening at all. 

For a blog like this one to pop up one day and start saying upsetting things, it’s understandable that many would brush us off as another hate blog. It isn’t what we’re trying to be, though, and if anyone else is reading this who is questioning us, distrustful, suspicious - you are allowed. It’s okay, we understand. I know way back we used to post some pretty hateful memes, because the hurt we experienced was fresh and we were angry. It was inappropriate and counterproductive of our cause, and I apologize for that. This wasn’t and isn’t the place for such things.

If anyone takes just one thing from all the stories posted here, let it be awareness. Just knowing can help you spot red flags in your own interactions with them and could very well benefit your safety and mental health in the long run.

Thank you so much for the message, anon. Hope you’re well and staying safe.

-X

this blog is selective with what they want to acknowledge. given the current climate, it seems off color in the tone of your post to make this an opportunity to encourage a new bandwagon of hate as if things haven't been rectified or investigated while this blog was conveniently AFK. it's shitty to use victims for a personal agenda of vengeance. but go ahead, close off the band from having an open & honest dialogue about fans that have been hurt so you can continue to criticize them for that.

Anon - 

My team and I had always been selective with what was posted on this blog in the past - there are a lot of fanmily members who are aware of this blog, who are very interested in discrediting the stories of victims because they believe that this information “ruins [the band] for them”. A very easy way to discredit victims’ stories is to make up and submit fake ones so that people who realize a story is untrue will have reason in their minds to question and disbelieve the rest, as well. We received a very high quantity of hate anons and troll submissions when we first started, and had no other option but to vet submissions if we wanted to remain true to our goal of honesty and helping others stay safe.

I am personally a victim as well, which is why this account was created. This blog isn’t for hate, it’s for justice for their victims and peace and safety for current fans of the band. Most of us have yet to get justice, and the fandom is still not safe. You all can block us, blacklist, whatever makes you feel best, that’s fine. No hard feelings.

I was “conveniently AFK” for quite a while for a number of reasons including people losing interest and submissions slowing to a halt, hateful, ignorant, and accusatory messages that were exhausting to comb through, and my own therapist advising me to step down from moderating this account for a while because it was becoming damaging to my mental health. Also, as far as I can tell, nothing has been rectified or investigated since we went on hiatus - as you can see on BB’s twitter, they are still claiming SN’s innocence. 

I do not, as you put it, “encourage a bandwagon of hate” or wish to “close off dialogue” but rather, I want to encourage dialogue. I suggested that people use BB’s open request for victims to “share their pain” on twitter to, together, confront her about the pain she and the rest of them have also caused, and get them to finally take responsibility for and admit to the harm they have done to so many people over so many years. She’s asking for people to share their pain, and this is a perfect opportunity to do just that.

I absolutely will continue to criticize them, because they still are deserving of being criticized. Terrible things are still happening to people around them. People are upset and hurt and she is still hiding the truth. The news of current drama reached me on my personal social media accounts despite me having everyone involved in the band blocked, so I logged back in here to share.

I think it’s important to recognize as well that this account is not being run by a any sort of professional anything, or any big powerful anonymous figure. We have always just been a small group of ex-fans who were hurt by a band that we loved very much, very badly. 

Your perception of this blog and our intent may not be entirely accurate, but that’s okay. Nobody has to like us, or believe us, or want us around. It would be nice, but we know we can’t force that to happen, knowing as a former member of the fandom, how the fandom operates regarding drama/hate/unpleasant truths.

But, believe it or not, we still care about you and your safety, anyway.

-X