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that's the sound of letting go...

@ban-lisex / ban-lisex.tumblr.com

how is it possible for them to even still like each other at this point
lisex aka alex gaskarth and lisa ruocco. the blog was made to express my dislike with other anti-lisex kin back in the day but now, it's a space to talk about everything all time low (and other bands). not a lisa hate blog. it's nothing personal.
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Anonymous asked:

Might be late, but something that hasn’t sat right with me about Alex refuting the allegations and defending Jack is that Alex himself was apparently 17 and having a ~25 year old woman come onto him (the woman he wrote Coffee Shop Soundtrack about). Even if he sees that as just him getting his heart broken by her and not what it is (a weird age gap/power imbalance/just barely over the age of consent). Even if he didn’t realize that she was wrong at the time based on her age, he should realize that now. So it just feels weird to see him doubling down for Jack who may have done the same thing.

Also another thing. I was one of the people who naively believed that Jack and Abigail Breslin were really just friends, but then I look at her song Hex which she released under her solo project, Sophomore. The ages match up to how old she and Jack were back then and she released it as a single around when the allegations dropped, likely knowing that people would be looking to see if she said anything (because her name was being brought up anyway). And then her EP with that song on it dropped around when the lawsuit was filed. Overall, I feel awful for her and I hope she’s doing okay because I’m sure having all this brought to light hasn’t been easy for her.

I just wish I could get answers. I’ve mostly stopped listening to them, I don’t really consider myself a fan anymore, but it’s kind of like a toxic ex that you once really loved. Part of me will always see the good memories, but I don’t want to support them any longer. Here’s to being stuck with them living rent free in my brain. I’ll probably be in the nursing home quoting Straight to DVD like “I’m Vinny Vegas, I’m Matt Flyzik. I’m all business, I’m not professional at all. I go to bed at 11, I go to bed at 2:30”

Alex has never been particularly good at keeping his mouth shut when he feels strongly about something so it doesn't surprise me he jumped to Jack's defense initially (before he was presumably advised to delete that shit ASAP). I don't feel right about dictating how Alex should feel about his own trauma/potential sketchy situations in his youth though. Abused people can go their whole lives not recognising that their abuser was in the wrong. Obviously we have no idea how Alex might feel about that situation now and I doubt we'll ever know but I don't think it's right to say he 'should' feel any one way about it. If it's not something he's processed or can see the reality of, it doesn't make him a bad person for it.

This ask from when everything happened still pretty much sums up my thoughts on the Abigail of it all.

You're totally within your rights to not want to support them. I understand it. I really want to watch Straight To DVD now though hahaha.

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Anonymous asked:

Also and idk if this sounds icky as well, I feel like if they were really guilty they wouldn’t fight back with a lawsuit. Idk I always feel bad defending them cause it’s in me to be on the victims side and every time a band allegation comes out it turns out to be true but idk theirs just never seemed true idk if it’s nostalgia or what idk how to explain it

No, I do get where you're coming from.

Like... is it a fact that false allegations are rare? Yeah. Is it also true that some celebrity allegations do get debunked? Yeah. (Justin Bieber's ended up being fake, didn't it?)

I felt both an element of understanding and an element of... disgust, I guess, when they went ahead with a lawsuit. Like, on one hand, I completely understand they want to clear their name, of course they do. What else are they meant to do if they're innocent to try and make that clear that they didn't lay a hand on these girls? But it also feels gross because it looks like exactly what it is. Four rich white (passing) men, throwing their money around to silence victims with the law, which is a tale as old as time. They have their status and their cash on their side. I understand it, but it also doesn't necessarily make them look good either????? Just a lot of feelings about it.

But we're in it now and I do agree that I don't think they'd have went to this extent if there was even a sniff of Doe 2's accusation being true in any way. That would just be incredibly stupid and career suicide, surely. If they uncovered anything that said Jack acted in a sketchy manner, it's curtains for the whole lot of them.

So I get where you're coming from. I hope we get some kind of satisfactory conclusion from the lawsuit soon.

#all time low
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Anonymous asked:

I have a horrible question. Do u think we are nearing the time for Lisex babies

FUCK no lmfaooooooo are you kidding

they were about divorced two minutes ago. literally dating other people. alex couldn't commit to the farm animals never mind a baby. i honestly don't even know if he wants to be a father but lisa always got irked when people would assume every time she posted that she was pregnant, or that she even wanted to try for a baby. she said once quite a while ago that that was "years" in the future. we are now years in the future but honestly with her business thriving the way it is, i don't see her wanting to slow that down. plus a baby would mean less time for the horses, goats, chickens, dogs, etc. and, you know, again, they were literally WITH OTHER PEOPLE not even that long ago.

i would like to think they are not moronic enough to be that couple who thinks a baby will fix everything. i feel like if they were, they would've been parents long before now.

#all that to say i will be THOROUGHLY shocked if we get a lisex pregnancy any time in the near future#lisex
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Anonymous asked:

Not the same anon, but I’d like to give my opinion regarding the allegations as well, if you don’t mind. When they came out I was devastated, but doing my research I realised how the details weren’t adding up at all.

I think you agree that doe 1 was probably onto something and thought it wouldn’t get that much attention, but it did. And right after the friend that went to the concert with her posted a picture of them at the very day and said nothing of what she said was true, she got off the internet. It makes one wonder if she disappeared because she was afraid of what else her friend could tell.

We can’t forget she also claimed that the lads prank called her friend’s house number for a whole month like they were 6 year olds because they didn’t have mobile phones as they were so young, and it was debunked by said friend as well. There’s even more things I’m leaving out, so her story is sketchy to say the least.

Doe 2 went even further with her claims, and while I absolutely agree with you that someone abused can (and often) keep coming back to their abuser, I can’t see one reason why Jack would considering she said herself she exposed him twice years before and was legally notified for it, but like pointed out, no one on the internet had heard of her story until 2021.

Her and her friend being Jack’s guests at the APMAs seemed VERY unlikely to me too. I must say though that I never thought about them having credentials until now, like the other anon said, but it makes sense indeed because it was the year he was hosting the event with Alex, so they definitely wouldn’t have been “normal” guests with shite seats.

All in all, I think that if it actually went on for 6 years like she claimed, or if it happened at all, she would have something more solid like photos together/of him, the nudes she also claimed she received, texts, phone calls, and even tickets. No one can know someone for so long and have nothing on them, and one of them were famous.

Lastly it seems to me that people are scared of still supporting someone who’s been accused of something and being seen as in the accused “side” and ostracized by the masses, when it shouldn’t be like that on this case because the only actual allegations brought against them are these 2, no one can link the “97 allegations” thing because it never existed.

Only fans and people in the scene know by now that the girl that started with the “97 allegations” thing compiled tweets of people pointing out the jokes they made or the bras thrown on stage. Questionable behaviour, specially considering some jokes? I think so, at times. But fucking predators? Very unlikely based on what we have, so I don’t see why some ATL fans are afraid of saying they think they are innocent when the 2 actual allegations are ??? to begin with.

I think you make a lot of good points about it. When the story first came out, and then All Time Low said they were going ahead with a lawsuit, I felt... many things.

But the primary thought was surely it would be easy to prove or disprove this all happened, assuming Jack still had access to any of his old electronics? An old phone with text and call history, searching back his emails, a laptop, etc.

I don't want to sit and nit-pick at how potential victims may choose to share their story but I do think you're right in saying more "proof" would surely be easy to provide in a situation like this. But... saying that feels icky, you know?

#anyway i think many of us agree the story is a little odd at best#and as much as it also feels gross to have a lawsuit ongoing in regards to it i'm also interested in the outcome#as i'm sure we all are
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Anonymous asked:

its unbelievable that some people actually believe the allegations when doe 1 stepped back right after the friend that went to the concert with her said nothing she claimed happened and that she did in fact have a phone at the time, and doe 2 said she met with jack countless times through 6 years, incluiding at the 2016 APMAs, and i mean.. you go to a fucking award with a friend and you both can't attach a photo? even with your faces covered? they would've something witht Jack's name if they

were actually his guests, he was hosting it, not to mention she said she exposed him online twice before and he still kept meeting with her? and not a single fan got receipts from the times it allegedly happened? if doe 2 didn't want to show her face, she could at least have provided us with the threat of legal action as it would have took place through email, phone text or a letter, but she chose to show us nothing and the lawsuit only occured because both stories are full of holes

I haven't re-read the second allegation (doe 2) in a hot, hot minute but I would assume she wasn't like... AT the awards show. As in the portion where a lot of photos were still being taken? But, like I said, haven't read it, can't remember exactly what she said.

While I'm not disagreeing on potential holes in that story, it's also not unheard of for a victim to know their abuser is bad for them... and still continue to see them. They get locked in a cycle.

#like i'm not trying to say jack's innocent or that doe is right one way or the other#just points to consider idk
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I've been rewatching Schitt's Creek for the third or fourth time and I've realised Alexis looks a lot like Lisa. Like... same mouth? I can't unsee it.

#is it just me
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Anonymous asked:

Is Tay Jardine dating a woman?

yes she is. or she was recently, and as far as i know they’re still together. haven’t looked at her account in a hot minute since she shared some stupid pro-israel thing.

from the way she announced it, it seemed like she was saying she’s a lesbian now, but i’m not totally sure how she identifies.

#tay jardine
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ban-lisex
is it just me or are they yassified here

😭😭😭 i mean definitely some kind of smoothing filter for sure but alex looks normal (although half his face is covered tbf) and lisa looks... different...

but, that instagram post made me laugh when i saw it originally because of the caption. authenticity. does that include whole-heartedly promoting your disgusting zionist friend's business orrrrr...?

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weightlessn92

Authenticity as she edits the photo. Good job Lisa

GIF by littletealights
#while i have no issue with people slapping a lil filter on their pics#this is indeed funny
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is it just me or are they yassified here

😭😭😭 i mean definitely some kind of smoothing filter for sure but alex looks normal (although half his face is covered tbf) and lisa looks... different...

but, that instagram post made me laugh when i saw it originally because of the caption. authenticity. does that include whole-heartedly promoting your disgusting zionist friend's business orrrrr...?

Submitted by madelinegracie
#pictures#Alex Gaskarth#Lisex#Lisa Ruocco#lisa gaskarth
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Anonymous asked:

i need ur take on rian getting engaged asap

babe wake up… the worst couple you know from your hometown just got engaged (rian and his toddler girlfriend/fiancé)

TODDLER 💀

i posted about this on my personal but i forgot to here. honestly i had a FEELINGGGGGG this was coming soon. like christmas/new year period i was like it's gonna happen. i know it. he's gonna do it real soon i know it. and he fucking did. a little later than i thought he might but he did it.

the proposal itself seemed lovely, well thought-out and romantic... but we know rian is insane so i can't help but wonder a) why is she choosing to marry this man after MULTIPLE WOMEN came forward saying he dated them all overlapping and b) has he cheated on her already? if yes, recently? will he in the future? surely that's a yes considering his history.

neither of them seemed to give a fuck about covid and as i said to some folks yesterday, if he didn't care about that who is to say he cared about getting tested between partners for stds??? she's nuts.

i don't think the age gap would be weird at all if it wasn't for rian infantilising her. again as discussed yesterday w people... he never spoke of girlfriends that way when he was with cassadee. he calls her "little lady" and the like and idk his captions are sickly whereas before they were normal. the only reason it stands out is because she's a bit younger than him.

idk it's odd. rian used to be regarded as the nicest in the band so seeing his downfall is horrific.

whether this engagement goes the way of his previous one or not is yet to be seen, but fucking hell. that's my conclusion. just fucking hell.

#rian dawson#savannah oddo#what were we calling them#sian#???! lmao
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ugh-jalex asked:

imagine getting a new pet with a man that is notorious for fleeing the state the second he feels trapped 🥰

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what truly baffles me about the whole thing is, yeah, they were very on/off when they were younger. kept breaking up, alex kept dating different women, maybe he cheated, lisa might have dated other people too, we don't know.

but then they got back together in 2012 after taylex and that was... it. they were solid. there wasn't even a sniff of a split and they got married and all was well for years. YEARS. and then atl released WUS and the lyrics were uhhhhh questionable. covid seemed to do a number on alex.

but they seemed fine for such a long time, at least in terms of not splitting up every other year.

it is nuts though that they separated and alex left her to deal with that whole-ass fucking farm for ages and then they get back together and get two new pets within months of one another.

#and one of those pets is another bloody horse!!!#that's not a small purchase!!!#i just can't w them#i need to know the inner workings of alex's brain bc THEY WERE FINEEEEE FOR SO LONG#lisex
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NOT ALEX AND LISA GETTING ANOTHER NEW PET

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Anonymous asked:

Ban-lisex my beloved, I need to tell someone this. So I’ve been friends with one of my besties for 14 years, we met in 2009 around when Nothing Personal came out. We met on a now-nonexistent website called Quizilla where she’d post Alex Gaskarth fics. I loved her fics so I was always hyping her up and we ended up both getting Tumblrs then exchanging phone numbers and keeping in touch all these years. We’ve also met in person quite a few times. Anyway, she just got engaged to this guy who is so amazing for her and she sent me a gift box in the mail to ask me to be in the wedding party (I said yes, obviously). I just thought you’d like this story as a fic writer/reader yourself. It’s crazy how it can bring people together and lead to beautiful moments like this.

I love this so much! That's so lovely. "Internet friendships" can be so deep and meaningful, it is amazing. <3

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