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WONDER BAR (1934) | dir. Lloyd Bacon

“The other [scene that stands out above the rest] involved a handsome man, asking a dancing couple if he could cut in. The female partner, expecting his attention, agrees, only to see him dance with her male partner. Jolson then flaps his wrist and says, “Boys will be boys. Woo!”. This scene almost caused the Production Code to reject the film, and was featured in the opening scenes of the documentary film The Celluloid Closet (1996).”
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When you go to your AO3 page from a browser you’re not logged in on, and it pops the 18+ content warning

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kayparker20

ItaSaku shippers

Tell me what’s the appeal? I’m very interested to see how this ship comes to mind. I see it all the time and my curiosity is finally being peaked

Fanfic suggestions are 100% appreciated

This fucking hellsite ATE MY POST so here my second attempt to respond sans screaming and hair pulling lol!

There are so many different answers to this question! I think it largely depends on *which* incarnation of Itachi a given shipper prefers: pre-reveal villain!Itachi, post-reveal martyr, non-massacre AU, canon divergent, Akatsuki!Itachi, double agent…the list goes on forever, and this ship is older than you’d think.

That said, I personally am in it for the slow burn enemies-to-lovers potential. With gratuitous use of forced proximity causing humanization. And leading to tentative friendship and confused attraction. The BEST UST mmph!

Much of the fandom seems to rely on a cold, somewhat robotic characterization of Itachi to be considered IC, which sells him short, imo. There’s so much more potential!

Some headcanons of their similarities: both intellectuals, natural strategists and planners; loyal to Konoha to a fault (bonus points when played as a genuine flaw); deeply concerned with ethics and Doing The Right Thing (tho Itachi always gets it wrong the first time round like a true extremist); both care about their loved ones more than virtually anything else.

I believe Itachi tempers some of Sakura’s hotheaded recklessness, while Sakura brings out some of Itachi’s repressed passion. I see them as deeply compatible teammates who make each other better. I come back to this ship time and time again because of my perception of their fundamental equality and respect for each other. *fans self furiously*

For fics, I confess I am a Fandom Crone, so I’ve only got older ones. Since I prefer enemies-to-lovers, these tend to put political conflicts between them at the center:

 Anything by Cynchick is a wild ride: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1059896/Cynchick

Leafygirl is classic: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/588480/leafygirl . The Ninth Night in particular is great introductory oneshot that does a lot of heavy lifting in a short time!

Lady Silvamord (https://www.fanfiction.net/u/545474/Lady-Silvamord) also finds herself on my faves list, but it’s been a long time since I’ve read.

Of course, I love my own fics as well (am I allowed to say that? I hope I’m allowed to say that LOL!): https://www.fanfiction.net/u/928704/rabid-behemoth

These two are super fun to write!

If you decide to do some reading please come back and tell us if you’re into it! Always thrilled to see more ItaSaku love in the world. It doesn’t get as much attention as other ships but there’s so much good energy there ;_;

EDIT: Imma tag my fav KS shipper @neonanything because after all these years of friendship (and neighborship!) it’s time you understood this side of me, too, if you ever dare come back to tumblr dot com!!!!

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neonnothing

When Brienne finds out Jaime saw Tarth during the Dorne arc

Brienne: Really? So you’ve seen my home? When?

Jaime: Fleetingly! We were just passing by it—unremarkable piece of land really. I wouldn’t have noticed if one of the sailors didn’t happen to completely by chance tell me as he walked by, whilst I was minding my own business at the dock— busy with something else did I mention? that THAT little piece of land was in fact Tarth. Lol ok? No one asked! Totally forgettable floating piece of wretched green paradise like a mirage amidst sparkling blue waters total yawnfest it’s a miracle I remember now.

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itskreen

O.M.G.

I love them ....... 🤤

#weak

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is kakasaku canon, like for real??

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That…is an excellent question. Scoff not, fandom, and let’s seriously consider this (sans tin hat theories).

The answer depends on notions of what ‘canon’ and ‘authorship’ are. If you believe Kishimoto, as the writer-god, has full control over how his characters are portrayed and perceived, then the answer is a flat no. No pairing will ever be canon, except whichever one(s) that singular man writes directly onto the pages.

There are other ways of thinking about this question, however. Since the 1970s, in both scholarly and fannish circles the concept of ‘authorship’ has been changing. Now, the process of reading is more commonly understood to be a participatory act, a kind of negotiation of meaning between what the text says (both explicitly and through subtext) and how the reader interprets it. Choice is a significant part of this process in that one reader may choose to focus on reading certain elements one way, while another may focus on others. This is why some people are shippers and some aren’t; it depends on whether you choose to read works for potential romantic subtext or not. This also explains ship wars, as some people read for a favored pairing (and sometimes almost modify the text itself in their determination to justify their ship). Furthermore, the same reader can read with critical distance sometimes, and read with very close personal investment at others. The point is that reading is a dynamic act that involves both free choice and writing, in a sense (your perception, what you see in your head, is itself a kind of writing). In that light, every work of fiction has (at least) two ‘authors’, the creator/producer AND the reader. For this reason, no single reading can be considered ‘correct’ or ‘true’ anymore. It is whatever you make of it.

Given that, is KakaSaku canon? That literally depends on who you ask. If you ask me, it is part of my personal canon. I read lots of extratextual works (fanfic, fan art, etc), and choose to read KS, because I like each character and imagine they’d have an appealing dynamic romantically (incidentally, I feel the same about several other pairings, so I choose to multiship). Just because I could not go through the original source material and point to instances that justify romantic readings of KS (I think most KS shippers are aware there simply aren’t any) doesn’t make my reading any less valid; for me, Kishimoto wrote a third of the text, I wrote a third (when I read it), and the fandom wrote the final third when they produce fanwork. So two-thirds of the ‘authors’ of the thing I call ”Naruto” agree KS should be canon, and that’s good enough for me.

Ladies (and gentleman), any thoughts?

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@neonnothing are you seriously gonna bring this post back from the dead?!? This is now the year of our lord 2021 and i

Like okay, I get your point, but in what way is this not a fair answer to the question? I think I was clear that KS both is and is not canon, and isn’t that the most accurate (if not the easiest) way to think of it?

Going with “yes” or “no” is an oversimplification no matter what u do, yeah?

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neonnothing

Ok actually now that I reread it, it wasn’t bad at all. hahaha. But you know not everyone who asks if it’s canon understands the 500 page meta of authorship LOL I love you

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is kakasaku canon, like for real??

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That…is an excellent question. Scoff not, fandom, and let’s seriously consider this (sans tin hat theories).

The answer depends on notions of what ‘canon’ and ‘authorship’ are. If you believe Kishimoto, as the writer-god, has full control over how his characters are portrayed and perceived, then the answer is a flat no. No pairing will ever be canon, except whichever one(s) that singular man writes directly onto the pages.

There are other ways of thinking about this question, however. Since the 1970s, in both scholarly and fannish circles the concept of ‘authorship’ has been changing. Now, the process of reading is more commonly understood to be a participatory act, a kind of negotiation of meaning between what the text says (both explicitly and through subtext) and how the reader interprets it. Choice is a significant part of this process in that one reader may choose to focus on reading certain elements one way, while another may focus on others. This is why some people are shippers and some aren’t; it depends on whether you choose to read works for potential romantic subtext or not. This also explains ship wars, as some people read for a favored pairing (and sometimes almost modify the text itself in their determination to justify their ship). Furthermore, the same reader can read with critical distance sometimes, and read with very close personal investment at others. The point is that reading is a dynamic act that involves both free choice and writing, in a sense (your perception, what you see in your head, is itself a kind of writing). In that light, every work of fiction has (at least) two ‘authors’, the creator/producer AND the reader. For this reason, no single reading can be considered ‘correct’ or ‘true’ anymore. It is whatever you make of it.

Given that, is KakaSaku canon? That literally depends on who you ask. If you ask me, it is part of my personal canon. I read lots of extratextual works (fanfic, fan art, etc), and choose to read KS, because I like each character and imagine they’d have an appealing dynamic romantically (incidentally, I feel the same about several other pairings, so I choose to multiship). Just because I could not go through the original source material and point to instances that justify romantic readings of KS (I think most KS shippers are aware there simply aren’t any) doesn’t make my reading any less valid; for me, Kishimoto wrote a third of the text, I wrote a third (when I read it), and the fandom wrote the final third when they produce fanwork. So two-thirds of the ‘authors’ of the thing I call ”Naruto” agree KS should be canon, and that’s good enough for me.

Ladies (and gentleman), any thoughts?

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