Jay's "Rookie mistake" when the bikes get stolen speaks volumes about the isle and how much the core 4 forgot about the isle

They deadass forgot about their abusive parents and convinced themselves that they missed them 🙄

Not to mention the fact that they just took down the barrier all together instead of just escorting the kids... they really forgot how bad it was

jay is a thief. under no circumstances would he ever LEAVE ANYTHING UNATTENDED OR UNLOCKED 

LEGIT THOUGH!

this pissed me off so much, like, how are y’all just gonna forget about years and years of abuse and shit after what, a year or two in auradon? that isn’t going to erase years worth of awful memories and abuse.

it seemed like lazy writing to get the storyline moving, most of d3 did, tbh.

carlos wanting jane to meet cruella? bullshit. that boy would not want his mother anywhere near auradon. in fact, most, if not all, of the vk’s would want their parents locked up on the isle.

disney just does lazy writing when they want to keep the storyline moving and it shows.

preach 

I'd like to remind everyone that:

Mal: "Are you afraid of your mom?"

Evie: "Sometimes. Are you afraid of your mom?"

And...

Mal: "Don't you miss screaming at people and making them all run away from you?"

Carlos: "You're thinking of my mother. And I was usually on the other end of that."

Are ACTUAL quotes from D1 and D2. Evie is CANONICALLY afraid of her mother, Carlos too. D3 forgot that.

d3 erased the characterization of,,,, pretty much everyone. mal betraying her family. carlos and jay barely talking once. the core four forgetting about the island and how awful their parents were to them. it went from an empowering story about the four of them getting away from abuse to a really easy and simple happily ever after.

D3 is the worst of the 3 films because of the bullshit characterization (especially for my baby Mal who did not deserve that) and that bullshit ending where they run back to abuse.

If I have to add my two cents, although I really loved the daddy/daughter storyline anyway, let's not for a fucking second forget or believe that Hades would have been a good fucking father. Even if Maleficent was the reason he left, this bitch is literally the ruler of the underworld, master of Cerberus, and I believe a slaveowner??? I don't really remember Greek Mythology, the Percy Jackson series, or the Hercules movie too well, (considering I haven't seen them in years), but last I remember he tried to kill Hercules several times because he was jealous.

He hasn't talked to his daughter in 18 years, literally tells her that she should thank him for her "daddy issues", AND THEN TURNS AROUND AND STARTS DOING FAVORS FOR HER???

Why the fUCK would he give a shit? And there is no reason he wouldn't be able yo get through that barrier.

My entire thought process that entire movie was "why are the opening the barrier so fucking far and leaving it open for so long???" Did they fucking forget how deadly everyone is on the Isle and everyone they would kill for a single chance to get out and reak havoc again?

Bull. Shit.

Loathe as I am to come out of lurking I feel like there needs to be some clarification here.

Disney Hades =\= Hades God of the underworld from Greek mythology.

Actual Hades was not actually any worse than any of the other Greek Gods (fairly sure an argument could be made that Zeus was worse than Hades). This Hades did not try to kill Hercules, that honor goes to Hera, Hercules's step mother. Ironically, in the Disney movie she was rewritten as his loving mother, most likely so it could be more kid friendly. Hades, often gets cast as a villian, in retellings mostly because he rules the Underwood, the world of the dead and in our modern times seems to be a stand in for the devil, but that isn't his role in the original Greek mythology

However, in the world of Descendents, we ARE dealing with Disney Hades. But, even with him been cast as a villian in that telling (and make no mistake this Hades is a villian), he wasn't really jealous of Hercules, he's jealous of the other gods who live on Olympus while he lives in the underworld. In the Disney film he wants to rule Olympus and the other gods, Hercules isn't anymore of a concern than any of the other gods until he finds out Hercules stands in the way of him taking over Olympus (via prophecy). This Hades is a master of deals, he'll make a deal with you if you can help him get his goal. Him helping Mal makes sense, if he helps her she'll probably open the barrier (it wouldn't be impossible to imagine that he knows this is a likely result).

Just as an a side, I understand why everyone is frustrated by the VKs running back to their parents. But actually I think it makes a lot of sense. Part of the reason the cycle of abuse is so tragic is it's so hard for those in it to break out. It's not uncommon for the abused to go back to their abuser, sometimes because they're sure they've changed. The argument could probably be made that they've compartmentalized a lot, so the cycle starts again. If they could do another movie with the core 4 (and unfortunately they really can't), a realistic storyline could explore them rerecovering and realizing their parents really never will change (but this is Disney so it'd probably not go that route anyway), but leaving it where it is is unsatisfying.

(I'm on mobile please excuse typos, and I don't actually post much do please excuse any word things)

I’ve seen five different authors take down, or prepare to take down, their posted works on Ao3 this week.  At the same time, I’ve seen several people wishing there was more new content to read.  I’ve also seen countless posts by authors begging for people to leave comments and kudos. 

People tell me I am a big name fan in my chosen fandom.  I don’t quite get that but for the purposes of this post, let’s roll with it.  On my latest one shot, less than 18% of the people who read it bothered to hit the kudos button.  Sure, okay, maybe that one sort of sucked.  Let’s look at the one shot posted before that - less than 16% left kudos.  Before that - 10%, and then 16%.  I’m not even going to get into the comments.  Let’s just say the numbers drop a lot.  I’m just looking at one shots here so we don’t have to worry about multiple hits from multiple chapters, people reading previous chapters over, etc.  And if I am a BNF, that means other people are getting significantly less kudos and comments.

Fandom is withering away because it feels like people don’t care about the works that are posted.  Why should I go to the trouble of posting my stories if no one reads them, and of the people who do read them, less than a fifth like them?  Even if you are not a huge fan of the story, if it kept your attention long enough for you to get to the bottom, go ahead and mash that kudos button.  It’s a drop of encouragement in a big desert. 

TL;DR: Passively devouring content is killing fandom.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

Fandom is kept alive by readers, watchers, lookers, commenters, and supporters.  And the FiKi fandom has some MAGNIFICENT ones…but a lot more who click, consume, and say nothing.

Otherwise, artists and writers are throwing into a vacuum. And it’s the artists and writers who get blamed when there’s not new content?

This applies to so many fandoms. It makes me so sad to see that even on LJ comms, there are far more people reading things than there are commenting on and liking them.  I co-mod one of the oldest sites in a particular fandom, and I know it’s still active because of the sign-ups for our challenges, but it’s so disheartening when people post and nobody says anything.  How does that encourage new writers, if the first thing they post gets no response? I cheerlead our comm on Twitter, where a lot of the members hang out, and still nothing.  It makes me feel like people are eventually going to just stop, and then I shall be sad, because if nobody’s posting and nobody’s reading, there’s little point in my writing and drawing either.  I don’t know why fandom is getting so heavily skewed towards passive consumption, but I wish I could do something - anything - to fix it.  I miss the kind of comment threads that used to lead directly to more fic and art.  

And there’s the answer, random fan demanding more fic but not actually doing anything to encourage it.  If you want us to create stuff, let us know we’re not shouting into the void.  Engage with us.  Discuss plot points with us.  We create for ourselves - but we post for you.

Preach it! I often feel like I’m shouting into the void when I post fic even though my statistics sometimes tell me otherwise because the number of hits far outweighs the number of comments. Guys, if you enjoyed ANY part of my 25 part series that I know at least several of you read, I beg of you to tell me. It’s not that I’m fishing for compliments, it’s that if I don’t get the sense anyone actively gives a shit it’s really discouraging and makes it harder to write more.

I met a girl the other day and discovered that she likes fanfic. I asked her what her Ao3 screen name is, but she said she doesn’t have one.

I thought about the posts I have seen lately on tumblr about writers BEGGING for not even hardcore critique, not even feedback, just acknowledgement.

So I asked her, “How do you comment?” And I knew, because she doesn’t have an account, that she doesn’t.

So she said, “I don’t, I get linked through Tumblr and I just message people there.”

“That’s nice, but not the same, I told her.”

And it’s a shame, because as someone who fell in love with FF.net through Firefly fics, which is a comatose fandom, I WISH there was more content, but no amount of commenting will bring authors back who’ve shut down their accounts because there is no inspiration coming.

And so people who’s fandoms ARE still putting out inspiration, owe it to their authors to keep them inspired.

My fic is getting WAY less than a 10% kudos rating. And from the number of people who contact me going OH MY GOSH, this fic is amazing, and the fact that I’ve got two more authors writing for the AU, and steadily rising hits, I suspect the lack of kudos is not lack of appreciation.

And the fact that 130,000 words across 10 fics of various lengths has FOUR comments, that makes me sad. Not just for me, but for what it means about fandom in general.

I was been writing into the void my whole life, when I finally found out there were places where fanfiction was okay, I was thrilled.

No one should have to feel that writing into the void feeling.

I think one point might also be AO3′s strict policy on new accounts. I had someone message me asking to switch a fic on AO3 from ‘only registered users’ to ‘public’ because they’ve “been waiting for ages for their account request to be approved”. So, many people who don’t have someone to send them an invitation, or who try once and realize they can’t just sign up straight, just don’t bother anymore….

Ok, I think another POV needs to be heard here, because I AM a lurker, and I’ve been one for 15+ years; to the point that this is very atypical of me to do; I’d much rather stay in my corner.  I’ve even seen the days when creators would hold work hostage for comments, which might very well have colored my view. I hardly if ever comment.  Why you might ask, well there are several reasons, firstly I am one to choose my words and make sure they are firstly more than squees, and second say SOMETHING; which usually means some sort of concrit. Yes I’m aware that most don’t care if it’s just squees, but I want my words to say something, it’s why if I make a post it’s not a short.  But concrit, you might say we LOVE concrit…no you don’t or rather a good number that say that don’t.  I’ve given such reviews and I’ve been basically yelled at and one time told I ruined Christmas.  Now tell me why should I be encouraged to do anything of the sort when in the past, my very long fandom past I might add, when I have had the courage to speak up I get torn down.   Not to mention taking the time to write out such a detailed reply takes time and energy as well, and as equal risks of the same passive response or even worse negative response, especially in the public place of the internet; a fact I would like to say is I’m experiencing with this post itself.   Basically, reviewers are putting themselves out there just the same as writers are.

 I would much rather communicate privately.   Even then I’ve been left to feel after awhile in private communications that what I’m saying is not wanted.  Could that be in my head?  Sure, but in this land of tumblr where similar things are talked about at length, would it really be fair to disregard that just because it may be just my perception (there is at least one person in this specific thread I have communicated privately with on occasion and I want to assure you, that this has not been the case with you J).  And from what I’ve seen here it seems even this private communication isn’t enough for some.

 Second, I have never been one to demand updates or try to dictate how a story would go (at least to the author, my earmark for my all-time favorites is do I start developing plots based on their stories), closest I could ever come would be “can’t wait for the next update”, but that comes back to my previous point.  I understand authors lose interest or have less time; and I’ve been the believer that the story is the authors to do with as they wish. So, for me those just aren’t options.

Now I will admit I could hit Kudos button more, but I have to admit I have a bit of a…I guess… dissonance with it.  I do not like the “Like” button, never have, and somewhere in my brain the Kudos button stands for the same thing, even though they do different things on different platforms.  Makes sense, nope, and I fully admit that.  Also, I’m from the era before this button was a thing, so it never crosses my mind when I’m reading, if it had my relationship with it could be different. Add to that for me it’s putting a story in a very class, I don’t think everything I read and even just read and like, should necessarily deserve a Kudos, it’s a high honor in my mind, one for a complete story, and I wouldn’t hit it for everything I like.

Oh, you don’t understand I can hear the replies now, you just consume…Nope.  I’ve written in a couple fandoms, fandoms that are not very active anymore; I even hope to revisit (I have a difficult relationship with writing, that has nothing to do with response).  For Pete’s sake I had concrit on porn once, which I found equal measures amusing (because…porn) and wonderful.  For me, I never judge my popularity of my story based on reviews, or kudos or favorites or follows, for me because I know that there are those that are not comfortable interacting, or can’t I’ve always looked at my hits or views, with the understanding that I have to scale the number back to get a better estimate.  And any I do get I collect all of them and consider them a whole no matter what platform.  But I also do not expect a huge response, not like I know some do. However, that’s just me.

I don’t have a solution for anyone wanting to get more people to interact, because while I’m sure I’m not isolated in my views and such I’m also sure there are plenty of others with more reasons, including lack of knowledge or understanding. Which may be one of the larger ones, especially as newer generations find their way to our fandom corners, and possibly see some that have been discouraged from interacting like me.  And honestly, I’m not sure you’d want it even if I did have a suggestion, because you may not like it.  And doesn’t that just bring me back full circle.

TLDR: Not everyone “passively” consuming is just lazy.

Now I need to get to bed…only stayed up 2 hours writing this…and may end up deleting it later…

Robert Kazinsky as Fili  from AUJ EE behind the scenes.

That hair and beard doesn’t look good on him that almost disastrous.

Two things in particular stand out for me in these images.

1. How terrible the make-up and prosthetics, which were designed for RK, look on him. He doesn’t wear the costume and make-up; they wear him. He looks like a demented Robert Coote from an old Three Musketeers film. Truly awful.

2. How little chemistry there is between RK and the rest of the cast, particularly Richard and Aidan. In fact, except for when they are carrying the barrel, Aidan is nowhere near RK. In the make-up test, Richard looks positively angry, not brooding or smouldering, but angry. And RK and Aidan keep missing each other’s eye lines. 

See this post for all of the photos, the last ones are the most telling and they are not shown here.  Also be sure to read this link. This a man who sent pictures of his penis to a woman he barely knew. “In one text message, he told her: “Might let you give me a blowjob one day.” And in another, he added: “Might film you giving me **** one day.”  He’s nowhere in the same league as Dean, or any decent man. Just Yuck!

Thanks for the link to the article. Wow. This keeps getting worse and worse the more comes to light :-( Rob Kazinsky? More like Rob Kazilla…

I find it interesting that in the second from the bottom he kind of looks like he'd like to be anywhere else but there (and the bottom but they all look like that in that one).  Not to mention at least from this pictures he seems to not be making eye contact with anyone or engaged with anyone.  Would be very interesting to know the whole story.

"My name is Henry Morgan. My story is a long one. It might sound a bit implausible. In fact, you probably won’t believe it but I’ll tell you anyway because beyond all else I have lots, lots of time…"

Favorite Studio Ghibli Quotes