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Unpopular opinion: give me less “lost puppy” or “silly goofball” Jaime and more “sarcastic and brooding” and “I will literally, not figuratively, straight up kill you” Jaime.
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rohanne voice: I bet you have a big dick
( @drafee )
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Brienne of Tarth Meme: 2/4 Favourite Relationships: Brienne and Hyle:
“Lord Selwyn’s only living child. I’ve known men to wed lackwits and suckling babes for prizes a tenth the size of Tarth. I am not Renly Baratheon, I confess it, but I have the virtue of being still amongst the living. Some would say that is my only virtue.” - Hyle Hunt, A Feast for Crows
Source: briennemaidoftarth
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AFfC Jaime II from the ever-amazing Charlit, with special guest star, moody teen Loras Tyrell being mentored against his will.
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Spoilers, profanity, Jaime x Brienne. Game of Thrones. A Song of Ice and Fire. Re-Reread A Feast for Crows - AFfC Brienne III
Close the Door and Come Here - 286: Re-Reread AFfC Brienne III PODBEAN | ITUNES | STITCHER | PATREON | GOOGLE PLAY
Welcome to “Loathed No More,” a Jaime/Brienne love story. We don’t want Hyle Hunt for Brienne, but maybe we want him for ourselves? Is Mark Mullendore the Ross of the Knights of Summer? Maybe, but Brienne is definitely the Captain America of Westeros.
featuring: @chickren, @ladyoftarth-posts, @guileandsubterfuge
Close The Door And Come Here - Episode 286
I’ll admit it. I like Hyle (and so does Brienne).
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Anonymous asked:
Do you think Jaime will eventually wield Widow's Wail in the books? Based on the two swords in the weirdwood dream (and just the sheer SYMBOLISM in Jaime and Brienne wielding the two halves of Ice), it's my primary reason for believing he will outlive Cersei. I think he's going to go back to where she and Tommen are, presumably she will die (though not necessarily at Jaime's hand), and Jaime will take WW. Basically I take this much as a given but I don't know if wider fandom does?
The show convinced me Jaime will wield Widow’s Wail in the books. And I know people are going, “Hey, you’re the one who says the books and show will be wildly different.”
And, yes, they will be wildly different, but the reason the show convinced me Jaime will have WW is that they (LOL) never even talked about it on the show? You would have had to screencap and zoom or watch the extra materials to even know Jaime had it. It served no narrative purpose within the show, and Jaime had another sword before that, so it’s not like he was in need of a sword and the prop department just handed him that one. There was no goddamn reason other than someone at some point saying “oh, Jaime’s supposed to have that other Valyrian steel sword” and someone in costuming or weapons making sure he had it based on that note.
I think the opening scene of season 4 shows that at one point the GoT writers intended to feature both swords and their importance in the fight against the White Walkers, but then (like so many things they clearly once intended to make important) they just didn’t bother and dropped the whole thing while some remnants of the intended story remained. The remnant was that Jaime had the sword.
Obviously in the books there’s plenty of reason to think Jaime and Brienne are meant to carry the two halves of Ice and fight the Others with them–probably to protect Ned Stark’s home/family. Jaime’s weirwood dream has already proven to have been prophetic with regard to Tywin gifting him Oathkeeper, and then him giving it to Brienne.
Anyway, tl;dr, I don’t question that Jaime will eventually come to possess Widow’s Wail.
How is another question. I think GRRM intended Jaime to return to KL at some point, but I’m less sure he’ll actually be able to pull it off–I think he’ll have to drop that concept. So, maybe Cersei and/or Tommen, or someone takes it with them when they flee KL and Jaime ends up with it that way, idk. There’s also the theory that Loras has it at Dragonstone which would make it somewhat easier for Jaime to encounter it/end up with it if he stays in the Riverlands or goes to the Vale.
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Brienne II from the amazing Charlit. Brienne is THICC.
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Notice how this is only the second time that Sam and Steve are meeting. In which, Steve visits Sam in his place of work because Sam – a casual runner he met on his jogging path invites him. This scene is so significant because, Steve Rogers has been shown to be pretty closed off and trusts no one at this point. Since he’s lost everyone he loves, he’s been having a really hard time adjusting back into the world. And he just meets Sam and there’s something so charming about Sam Wilson that Steve Rogers can’t help but trust him the moment they meet. Not only that, media has shown us that relationships/friendships between male characters are generally always portrayed with too much testosterone or frat boy culture. But not Sam and Steve. Steve genuinely cares if Sam is okay. Sam genuinely cares if Steve is okay. This is their second meeting and both men are asking each other if they’re happy with their lives and making each other smile. And it’s so pure. The friendship/relationship between Sam and Steve is often overlooked/overshadowed by Bucky and Steve’s friendship, but don’t sleep on them. Sam and Steve are just as significant as Steve and Bucky & Steve and Nat.
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Brienne I from Charlit. A magnificent start to her journey.
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Anonymous asked:
I really want to believe the email because I know for a fact that he has responded to fan emails before and this does sound like him but the one thing not convincing me is the time stamps: look at the time the email was sent and when he replied.
Okay I just looked at it. It’s the same day but it looks like a few hours later.
I mean....
So? I showed this to glam and I’m going to quote her, “I guess they think George has to reply to emails at the same rate he writes books. That’s literally it.” Lol sorry just thought that was funny.
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Okay so…the tea.
At the end of May, shortly after the end of the show, an upset, anonymous JB shipper messaged GRRM and was lucky to receive a response. We didn’t believe it at first. My friend (who also wishes to remain anonymous) asked for a screenshot of the email and her inbox for proof. The JB shipper showed the email to my friend and after doing some research, yup, it checked out. It hasn’t been shared until now because of many reasons, but I was bursting at the seams this entire time.
CONTEXT
The person who emailed GRRM is a JB SHIPPER. We don’t have a screenshot of exactly what she wrote because there was a lot of personal information. We tried reaching out to get a screenshot of the Jaime and Brienne content, but it seems like she’s no longer in fandom. BUT we have a general description of what she told him. She was displeased with the treatment of Jaime and Brienne, so she wrote about her personal struggles and why she related to the characters, particularly Brienne. She mentioned that she wasn’t going to accept the show’s ending for them, because the messages associated with that endgame were upsetting and nihilistic, and she was looking forward to an ending that was more inspirational and hopeful for that pairing.
That’s what we know.
What we THINK is that she mentioned the dream, because he randomly references it in the email, so I believe the first part about “your analysis” is in reference to her dream interpretation. Considering she’s a JB shipper, and from what I remember, her dream interpretation and analysis of the characters aligns with the average JB shipper: foreshadowing Jaime and Brienne being a romantic couple, Jaime outliving Cersei, Brienne outliving Jaime, Brienne’s light being symbolic of carrying on the Lannister legacy, etc. (I have a slightly different interpretation than she does, but I’ve seen her mention these points in the recent past).
THE EMAIL
The email retyped because it’s blurry af and
“Let me say this much –– your analysis is close to the truth. The butterfly effect was at work since the earlier seasons… and it changed some storylines more than others. If truth be told, I’m to be blamed for this too, because I had a load of work and I had to gradually step down from my duties after the forth season to concentrate on Winds. I haven’t read the scripts of the last two seasons. And I wasn’t exactly a fan of sacrificing some characters and stories at the expense of others… but I do need to mention that it was also an issue beyond the writing room and creative process.
The priority of a television network giant is rarely the story and the messages it gives. The desire of David and Dan (and HBO) to focus on actors like Peter and Lena is understandable. Sometimes certain scenes are written only for actors or for their memorability. And it’s not a bad idea to end a TV show which is well known for a controversial incest scene, with another memorable scene of the incestuous twins… it’s an ending. It makes sense in this medium, because it’s a medium that mainly relies on the memorability of imagery. A finale which brings two or three main actors together is more powerful. It’s a different animal when you are only dealing with characters, and not actors. The power of the ending in a book relies on the emotions which the words and the story itself convey.
I feel for you and understand your concerns, but I think you will be more satisfied with the books’ ending. Imagine that the books are the show are two parallel universes. There are two Briennes, two Jaimes, two Cerseis. Have you watched Sliding Doors? Sometimes taking a different path changes everything. Have you noticed that the dream might have more than one potential ending? Is Jaime’s ending in the show necessarily “wrong”? Can’t it be an ending which was the result of choices made and paths taken (by more than one character)? What if Jaime caught the train in one universe and missed in the other? Just food for thought…“
How we know it’s not a fake:
- The writing style is nowhere close to how she writes.
- The inbox is legit.
- We verified the email address through westeros.org. Apparently there is a place called So Spake Martin that has email conversations, and other interactions, between fans and GRRM. He had an older email and the one she used is his most recent one, which has been active for a couple of years I believe. I tried emailing them, asking if they still take submissions for GRRM emails, so we’ll see.
- This is one reason why I knew HBO and the writers were propping up certain actors and how some arcs (JAIME’S) were sacrificed and how they were shady af and LOOK AT ALL THE RECENT TEA THAT HAS BEEN SPILLED.
- We had this email BEFORE GRRM did that recent interview, where he’s mentioning the show and books being “alternate realities” and all of that. He literally verified the email and we were dying. Proof that we had seen the email and were discussing it before the interviews? (Read from the bottom up. You can see me bothering my friend to show me the email lmao. She shared it with me in June.) Also, the date on the email itself is blurry, but it’s there.
MY INTERPRETATION OF THE EMAIL
So… he’s confirming that the twincest end is a show!only creation LOL.
- “Your analysis is close to the truth.” He’s saying this to a JB shipper, most likely in reference to her analysis of the dream.
- The JB shipper emailed him, SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT JAIME, BRIENNE, AND CERSEI. THAT’S IT. He’s literally emailing her to comfort her over Jaime and Brienne, and straight up saying that they had to sacrifice character arcs for certain actors (Peter and Lena). Because her email was specifically about Jaime and Brienne, he is speaking about their arcs being sacrificed.
- To comfort her, he then explains why they decided to go with a twincest end. He’s literally saying, “IN THIS MEDIUM it makes sense” because “memorability” and “imagery” and politics. And then he’s like, “NOW FOR BOOKS we don’t need to worry about that bullshit”
- He then tells her -a JB shipper- that she’ll be more satisfied with the book ending. He then goes on to explain about the parallel universes, saying there are TWO BRIENNES, TWO JAIMES, AND TWO CERSEIS, and that the show’s ending isn’t “wrong” because it’s a parallel universe (meaning, DIFFERENT FROM HIS UNIVERSE, WITH THE SECOND JAIME), affected by the butterfly effect because “sometimes taking a different path CHANGES EVERYTHING”
Emphasizing again that second paragraph, because he’s saying THE END WE GOT makes sense FOR THAT MEDIUM because of imagery, memorability, and business. He mentions bringing a few actors together for THE SHOW’S FINALE because of it being visually powerful.
Literally all of his explanations about the end are about WHAT WORKS FOR TV, not what works for a narrative, implying that if you’re going by a narrative, it would be done differently, which is why he then segways into talking about books and how the emphasis is different so your ending isn’t driven by what’s visually pleasing and what actors need screen time. “It’s a different animal when you are only dealing with characters, not actors.” What he described is that on the show they brought three big actors together for the reasons mentioned, and to do that they needed to sacrifice Jaime’s arc, and even sacrifice Cersei to an extent, so they could have a good twincest aesthetic, since they built a reputation on that controversial incest scene back in S1E1. They leaned on the power of the visual instead of the narrative, and giving Peter his Emmy crying moment. And yes, when GRRM is talking about sacrificing character arcs, he’s speaking about Jaime’s arc because again, CONTEXT. Her entire email was about Jaime and Brienne and how the ending of Jaime ditching Brienne and running back to Cersei bothered her, and then he goes right into Jaime’s ending and trying to rationalize it FOR A SHOW.
As for the movie Sliding Doors, I’ve never seen it, so I can’t really comment on it. My friend says, “it’s a romantic comedy that alternates between two storylines, showing two paths the central character’s life could take depending on whether or not she catches a train. There’s some overlap in the two storylines, but she stays in a bad relationship in one version, and finds a healthy relationship in the other. She dies in one version, and lives in the other.”
And… I see where he’s coming from in his explanation, and I know he’s playing nice, but I disagree about it making sense, because they still could have made it GOOD and consistent while having imagery, memorability, and sticking to the business plan like any other good quality television show so never in a million years will I defend that ending but WHATEVER.
The point is, JB AND JC WILL HAVE DIFFERENT ENDGAMES IN THE BOOKS AND THAT’S THE TEA.
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the wench looked as ugly and awkward as ever, he decided when tyrell left them. someone had dressed her in woman’s clothes again, but this dress fit much better than that hideous pink rag the goat had made her wear. “blue is a good color on you, my lady,” jaime observed. “it goes well with your eyes.” she does have astonishing eyes.
brienne glanced down at herself, flustered. “septa donsye padded out the bodice to give it that shape. she said you sent her to me.” she lingered by the door, as if she meant to flee any second. “you look…”
“different?” he managed a half-smile. “more meat on the ribs and fewer lice in my hair, that’s all. the stump’s the same. close the door and come here.”
redraw of this scribble but this time with a little bit more effort. make sure you click on it to see the details because there’s quite a bit ! (:
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the thing about og jaime x brienne fandom is that we are 100% DONE discussing whether jb is real in the books. we are done debating whether it’s romantic, or whether it’s sexual.
it is.
we told you; we explained; we gave you evidence. it is canon.
if you want to be the flat earther of asoiaf fandom and deny it, go ahead
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Anonymous asked:
If In This Light is your endgame head canon, has it changed over the years? Do you still think Cersei will make it north? I just want her to die asap, no opportunities for pathos, no getting in between Jaime and Brienne while they're being battle spouses.
Uhhh. I try not to talk too much about anything I’ve written, or *why* I’ve written what I’ve written. Despite the way I meta George’s shit, I’m extremely la mort de l’auteur with my own. That junk is whatever the fuck it seems to be to you–doesn’t really matter what my intentions were after it gets into your hands.
Without addressing anything specific that isn’t already well known, I will say I wrote it as *my* version of Endgame, but it’s not exactly my prediction of how GRRM’s will go. I put a lot of my predictions in there, but deliberately avoided writing several things I always kind of knew would happen but personally hated. (Like, hi, I have famously always believed Jaime will die in canon, but, despite intending to kill him in everything I’ve ever written, I never could actually do it). I also added/changed things because I liked the characters, or needed certain characters present in order to explore certain things. A few elements/plot points I made out of whole cloth. But yes, a couple things I did/didn’t think would happen that are in that fic have been altered by what happened on the show.
We did a podcast episode where I talked pretty extensively about my ASoIaF Endgame thoughts and I think I specify where the show has changed my mind, but most of my thoughts remain the same as they were after I finished Dance however many godforsaken years ago.
[Okay, I’ll unkill myself and say that I remember putting in little hints/references/jokes about things I suspected would be in canon but I just did not want to write.]
I’ve always seen ItL as more wish fulfillment than endgame prediction, to be honest. As awesome as it would be, I don’t think anyone thinks endgame will be so JB-centric.
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Jaime VI from Charlit. She could almost be a knight. She could almost be a beauty.
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Set of holographic stickers dedicated to The Holy Trinity.