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prokopetz

One of those going-over-the-fandom's-head memes about Shuro Dungeonmeshi being hopelessly infatuated with Falin and loathing Laios even though they have basically identical personalities where the direct takeaway is "lol, Shuro is dumb" and the part going over the reader's head is "people decide whether your autistic traits are charming quirks or red flags based on whether they find you fuckable".

They don't really have identical personalities, though?

They're very similar in their interests and outlook, but the way they navigate social boundaries is extremely different, and Toshiro's issue with Laios is all about boundaries.

Toshiro's issue with Laios is Laios's failure to register any & all soft boundaries Toshiro tries to set. Laios assumes "yes" in the absence of a hard "no". He has to be explicitly told when his behavior is inappropriate, and even then, he'll sometimes argue about why (with more or less validity). Toshiro is from a background where a hard "no" is unconscionably aggressive, especially against someone who Toshiro knows is trying to be friendly -- and, as someone who grew up in an environment like that, it makes it really fucking hard to set hard boundaries as an adult, especially when you've already had soft boundaries ignored. That deadlock is what produces Toshiro's frustration and growing resentment.

Falin, by contrast, is socially passive and retiring. She assumes "no" in the absence of an explicit volunteered "yes". In the flashbacks to magic school, when she's around other students, she's quiet, she shrinks, she tries desperately to avoid attention. In the party, even with more confidence in herself, she took on a 'peacemaker' role -- especially between Laios and the others, doing the work of navigating social relationships for him. After she's resurrected, she remains reactive, reassuring Laios and Marcille that she's alright rather than express her own distress or confusion; she quickly drops her own doubts and concerns to allow Laios and Marcille to comfort themselves.

So Falin isn't constantly pushing past the boundaries Toshiro tries to set. Which is his issue with Laios.

Laios gets to behave the way he does in part because he's had Falin (and, to a lesser extent, Marcille) insulating him from the ways his behavior impacts the people around him -- which leads to the problem festering, because it doesn't resolve the underlying issue. And this isn't something Laios asked either of them to do ... but it is something he takes for granted until Falin is suddenly absent, and it is something autistic men get far more often than autistic women.

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chilchuck going "sorry leave me outta this one. i cant fight" but then hitting literally every precise shot with an arrow or projectile he ever made in the story INCLUDING PIERCING A RED DRAGONS EYE BY THROWING A KNIFE WHILE LEAPING AWAY my bro is a rogue with dex 20 and wants no one to know biggest liar in history

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appendingfic

As a fellow union man i can relate - you do not let your employer know you can do anything you don't want to become your job

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doumekiss

the face of a woman who just realized her crush dragged her party through a bunch of dangerous bullshit just so he could have an excuse to talk with this other guy he is obsessed with, and he is not even gonna confront him about stealing their stuff because he wants the other guy to like him

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I forgot it was that long, he really has no chill or sense when it comes to Laios jfc, in that daydream hour special they really should have given him much lower scores as a group leader based on this occurence alone

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kabru dunmeshi is basically a chernobyl survivor who was adopted by an eternally young hot white woman who was going to pamper him for his entire life but instead of wanting to be pampered he was like "mom, i need to become a stalker. i need to return to the Zone" and his elf mom was like "nooo the Zone sucks you'll be shot by a bandit" and he was like "no mom i need to go to the Zone and find out what happened" and she was like "fine" and pulled out a machinegun from her days in the Suicide Squad and trained him to kill while firing on him with live ammunition. Then he went to the Zone and immediately got killed by a pack of wild dogs because elf mom only taught him how to shoot other humans

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dungeon meshi is the ultimate manga for a lot of reasons but some of my top favorites are that

- never any “omg pervert!!!” jokes that are so insanely prevalent in fantasy manga for some reason

- only “ship tease” is between falin and marcille

- completely and well fleshed out female characters who have their own motivations character and arcs just as equally as the male characters

- catgirl who actually is a cat girl (inscrutable, a little rude, pushes shit off tables, a little unsettling) and not just a cutesy moe girl with cat ears

- ultimate autism protagonist (thank you laois for your service)

- “this elf is actually 5000 years old but looks like a young adult/teenager for some reason” but ryoko kui actually pulled off making it heartbreaking and a significant part of marcille’s character

- chilchuk divorce

- the most insane worldbuilding ever

- only fanservice is senshi #SENSHISWEEP

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I think it’s really cute that Mickbell called Chilchuck a greedy old geezer and was like ‘nyeh nyeh 😠🖕fuck you’ and was giving him the stinkeye from a distance when their parties met up.

and despite that, Chilchuck had no hesitations about taking him to hide in safety. and then they were chill enough to talk shit with each other later lol

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