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What really pisses me off about that guy with glasses is he made Levi doubt Kenny was his father. Even if he supposedly didn't believe it at that time he definitely implanted such sensitive piece of information into a 9-10 year old child. You can clearly see the shock in Levi's reaction once the guy refers to him as "Kenny's bastard child":

I'm pretty sure from that moment on up until his last encounter with Kenny Levi thought he was left all alone as a child in the underground by his father. He probably thought his father didn't love him and left him be without explaining so much as to where his power even originates from. Can you even imagine what could such experience and such set of thoughts possibly do to a little child?

Despite all that it's just so admirable that Levi never failed to value human life. He fought for humanity till the bitter end because as he put it himself he didn't want people to go through the same hell as he did.

This fact alone once again emphasizes the importance of this speech. Levi was ready to play the role of the lunatic so that nobody would have to go through the same hardships as he did, both as a child and as an adult.

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cosmicjoke

Amen.

That's such a good point about that piece of shit in the glasses. Like I said before, I think that man was the vilest of all of that group, and that is saying a LOT. Levi went through practically his entire life believing he was unwanted and unloved by his own father, and blaming himself for that, thinking Kenny left him because something was wrong with him, or he'd disappointed him in some way, when in reality, it was just that Kenny was too selfish to take care of Levi.

It really is remarkable and so hugely admirable, then, that Levi continued to value the lives of others so much. Because nobody ever showed him his own life mattered. It was just Levi's good nature that overcame the tragedy of his life. That instead of becoming bitter and hateful and wanting to put back on everyone else what he went through, he instead wanted to protect them from it and give them a chance at something better. It's really Levi's innate empathy that allowed him not to project the misery of his life onto others, and allowed him to see the worth in their lives, despite feeling none in his own. Because Levi has always had such a remarkable ability to see things from other people's perspectives, and to understand things from other people's perspectives. He's just such a good man.

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nuri148

Not defending that POS in any way, but you can't blame him for thinking that, really.

From the guy's pov:

  • Kenny, ruthless, dangerous, murderous Kenny is "taking care of" a child
  • For quite some time now
  • The child of a prostitute whom he visited at least twice
  • A child who displays the same unique power as Kenny
  • And possibly bears a passing resemblance to him.

Anyone would have speculated the same really. Even if this guy hadn't said anything, Levi could have thougt the same later on, when learning Kenny was an Ackerman and that he and Mikasa had both experienced the awakening. He only learnt Kuchel was an Ackerman when Kenny said so in his last breath, after all.

It doesn't matter, though, because the point is the damage it caused Levi by him saying it. If Levi hadn't thought it before, or the thought hadn't occurred to him before, which it doesn't seem to have, given Levi's reaction, he would certainly think it after what this bastard said, and it would have only worsened Levi's pain when Kenny abandoned him.

@cosmicjoke Exactly!

@nuri148 My point of making this post is not about what that guy or anyone else speculated. It was to emphasize the emotional pain this man was intending to cause Levi. In other words, imposing such hurtful words and guilt-tripping him on purpose just so save his own ass. It doesn't really matter what he or anyone else would've thought at that point.

That's the thing. Of course that comment messed with Levi's mind, but I don't think the guy said it on purpose to mess with Levi, he was trying to make sense of who this kid was, and spouting all the shit he could think of to try to avoid being killed like the others.

He's not some evil puppet master manipulator, just a scumbag, causing damage not just intentionally but unintentionally too.

I will comment on another aspect of this later but we shouldn't let our love for Levi cloud our judgement and assume every word and action of these guys that hurt Levi in any way was premeditated and delivered with that intention.

Well I guess we agree to disagree.

He already knew Levi is the kid Kenny's looking after and he warned his fellows about him so I don't think he really needed to "make sense of who Levi is". Clearly those words he said were intentional when it came to hurting him because he was guilt-tripping Levi for what he's done to those bandits by the love he holds for his mother. At first he was referring to Levi as "a whore's child" and "what else could he expect from a whore's child" but then suddenly Kuchel became someone important to him, i.e someone who was grieving over what Levi did. He was being manipulative. He wanted to make Levi feel guilty so Levi wouldn't kill him and to save his own ass. And let's not forget "he's a merchant probably from the surface running dirty business such as selling and trafficking humans including children in the underground" <-(thank you @cosmicjoke for pointing that out) so their line of job requires them to be manipulative. So I don't think anything is clouding my judgement or anyone who thinks this way because the guy's maliciousness and lack of sympathy are basically blatant through his own canon words:

@lostcauses-noregrets also pointed out something similar in her latest meta post which I find really well put. I'm going to quote her in the following: "Another point the chapter clarifies is the origin of Levi’s belief that Kenny was his father.  To be honest, it’s hardly surprising that Levi assumed this considering Kenny clearly had some kind of relationship with his mother and took him in without question. Still, knowing that the seed of that belief was planted by a thug who was willing to torture and kill a child, or sell him into sexual slavery, really twists the knife."

I think you got the wrong impression of my words. It's true that I love Levi but even if it was any other character in any other story I would still consider "guilt-tripping" a 9-10 year old child by the love he holds for their mother just because they were defending themself from getting sold out and murdered as hurtful and manipulative words. But as I said we agree to disagree.

I think it's unquestionable that the man in the glasses is purposefully trying to manipulate Levi. I don't see how anyone could see it otherwise. Maybe his comment about Kenny being Levi's father isn't a manipulation, but everything else he says in this exchange most definitely is. He's trying to guilt Levi by using his love for his mother against him (kind of how like Zeke was banking on Levi's care for his comrades to get Levi killed). This is yet another instance of a massive piece of shit using Levi's compassion against him, and just like with Zeke, it didn't work, because Levi's not an idiot, and people constantly underestimate his mental fortitude and awareness. Levi saw right through him, but it was still incredibly cruel and disgusting, cowardly behavior on this man's part. Especially within the context of what this man had been planning on doing to Levi, and what he was allowing to happen to Levi while he shrugged and turned away.

I don't think we should underestimate the grotesqueness of what this man does to Levi, or give him any slack as to what his intentions were. He absolutely tried to leverage Levi's love for his mother against him, and also tried to frighten him into thinking others would come for him for his actions, moments after being okay with letting Levi get beaten to death, and talking about trafficking him into a sex ring. He's more than just a scum bag. He's an incredibly cruel, sociopathic manipulator who made a living off of selling children into sexual slavery.

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momtaku

Excerpts from Shingeki Fly

I finally had time today to look closely at my copy of Shingeki Fly. I used my cell phone to translate bits of the interviews, so mileage may vary, but I am fairly confident the gist is more or less correct.

About the Shingeki Fly Color Art Book

Since Isayama prides himself on not being an excellent artist, he wanted the color art book to highlight the work Mr. Nakao, his colorist since the beginning of the series.

I really like this reflection regarding Mr. Nakao on his first chapter of Attack on Titan:

This is the first color manuscript that a presumptuous amateur, a newcomer who doesn't really know how to hold a pen left or right. The composition, panel layout, and everything else is terrible, but the way you colored it so nicely made me think that maybe I can make a living as a manga artist, and that manga doesn't have to be created by one person alone. I remember feeling hopeful that I would be able to participate in the unknown series that was about to begin.

Isayama's experience at Anime NYC in January 2022:

Isayama talks about how happy he was to visit Manhattan. Because he can't be normal for two seconds, he mentions that seeing the skyscrapers at night reminded him of the 1998 GODZILLA movie.

He also talks about the fan panel. My translation app says something like this: By actually seeing the crowd I was able to realize that Attack on Titan,'' which I had been drawing while holed up in my room in Tokyo, was connected to people far away from Japan and overseas. I was very happy to be able to see each fan's face and think, ``How happy are they?''

(I was able to attend that fan panel in person so I can attest how emotional he was by seeing us all there.)

Isayama's experience at Anglouleme in France in January 2023:

Being in France made him feel very far away from Japan because the city and architecture were so different from what he was used to. He described walking on the streets by the Eiffel tower in the middle of the night as thrilling.

While he set the landscape of Attack on Titan as French, German and Italian architecture, he understands now it was all from his Japanese perspective. Seeing the city is person was completely different from what he'd imagined.

How it felt drawing Levi after such a long time

Here is something I didn't know. At first Isayama was going to write a prequel set 100 years before the main story, but after meeting the fans in France he realized the idea of a one shot was to make them happy. Instead of an original idea, he settled the tea cup story, which is something he'd intended to write but had never had the chance.

He said is was surprisingly easy to draw Levi again after such a long break. The only thing he really had to think about is what Levi would sound like as a 10 year old.

"Bad Boy" was also his first time drawing manga on an iPad. Because he wasn't used to it, he had three assistants helping him. I really want a good translation of this bit because it seems funny. He mentions something about how what should've been digital remote work was more of an analog training camp. He said is was fun to reminisce about his "war era" when he would work while chatting with his assistants about trivial matters.

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What really pisses me off about that guy with glasses is he made Levi doubt Kenny was his father. Even if he supposedly didn't believe it at that time he definitely implanted such sensitive piece of information into a 9-10 year old child. You can clearly see the shock in Levi's reaction once the guy refers to him as "Kenny's bastard child":

I'm pretty sure from that moment on up until his last encounter with Kenny Levi thought he was left all alone as a child in the underground by his father. He probably thought his father didn't love him and left him be without explaining so much as to where his power even originates from. Can you even imagine what could such experience and such set of thoughts possibly do to a little child?

Despite all that it's just so admirable that Levi never failed to value human life. He fought for humanity till the bitter end because as he put it himself he didn't want people to go through the same hell as he did.

This fact alone once again emphasizes the importance of this speech. Levi was ready to play the role of the lunatic so that nobody would have to go through the same hardships as he did, both as a child and as an adult.

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cosmicjoke

Amen.

That's such a good point about that piece of shit in the glasses. Like I said before, I think that man was the vilest of all of that group, and that is saying a LOT. Levi went through practically his entire life believing he was unwanted and unloved by his own father, and blaming himself for that, thinking Kenny left him because something was wrong with him, or he'd disappointed him in some way, when in reality, it was just that Kenny was too selfish to take care of Levi.

It really is remarkable and so hugely admirable, then, that Levi continued to value the lives of others so much. Because nobody ever showed him his own life mattered. It was just Levi's good nature that overcame the tragedy of his life. That instead of becoming bitter and hateful and wanting to put back on everyone else what he went through, he instead wanted to protect them from it and give them a chance at something better. It's really Levi's innate empathy that allowed him not to project the misery of his life onto others, and allowed him to see the worth in their lives, despite feeling none in his own. Because Levi has always had such a remarkable ability to see things from other people's perspectives, and to understand things from other people's perspectives. He's just such a good man.

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nuri148

Not defending that POS in any way, but you can't blame him for thinking that, really.

From the guy's pov:

  • Kenny, ruthless, dangerous, murderous Kenny is "taking care of" a child
  • For quite some time now
  • The child of a prostitute whom he visited at least twice
  • A child who displays the same unique power as Kenny
  • And possibly bears a passing resemblance to him.

Anyone would have speculated the same really. Even if this guy hadn't said anything, Levi could have thougt the same later on, when learning Kenny was an Ackerman and that he and Mikasa had both experienced the awakening. He only learnt Kuchel was an Ackerman when Kenny said so in his last breath, after all.

It doesn't matter, though, because the point is the damage it caused Levi by him saying it. If Levi hadn't thought it before, or the thought hadn't occurred to him before, which it doesn't seem to have, given Levi's reaction, he would certainly think it after what this bastard said, and it would have only worsened Levi's pain when Kenny abandoned him.

@cosmicjoke Exactly!

@nuri148 My point of making this post is not about what that guy or anyone else speculated. It was to emphasize the emotional pain this man was intending to cause Levi. In other words, imposing such hurtful words and guilt-tripping him on purpose just so save his own ass. It doesn't really matter what he or anyone else would've thought at that point.

That's the thing. Of course that comment messed with Levi's mind, but I don't think the guy said it on purpose to mess with Levi, he was trying to make sense of who this kid was, and spouting all the shit he could think of to try to avoid being killed like the others.

He's not some evil puppet master manipulator, just a scumbag, causing damage not just intentionally but unintentionally too.

I will comment on another aspect of this later but we shouldn't let our love for Levi cloud our judgement and assume every word and action of these guys that hurt Levi in any way was premeditated and delivered with that intention.

Well I guess we agree to disagree.

He already knew Levi is the kid Kenny's looking after and he warned his fellows about him so I don't think he really needed to "make sense of who Levi is". Clearly those words he said were intentional when it came to hurting him because he was guilt-tripping Levi for what he's done to those bandits by the love he holds for his mother. At first he was referring to Levi as "a whore's child" and "what else could he expect from a whore's child" but then suddenly Kuchel became someone important to him, i.e someone who was grieving over what Levi did. He was being manipulative. He wanted to make Levi feel guilty so Levi wouldn't kill him and to save his own ass. And let's not forget "he's a merchant probably from the surface running dirty business such as selling and trafficking humans including children in the underground" <-(thank you @cosmicjoke for pointing that out) so their line of job requires them to be manipulative. So I don't think anything is clouding my judgement or anyone who thinks this way because the guy's maliciousness and lack of sympathy are basically blatant through his own canon words:

@lostcauses-noregrets also pointed out something similar in her latest meta post which I find really well put. I'm going to quote her in the following: "Another point the chapter clarifies is the origin of Levi’s belief that Kenny was his father.  To be honest, it’s hardly surprising that Levi assumed this considering Kenny clearly had some kind of relationship with his mother and took him in without question. Still, knowing that the seed of that belief was planted by a thug who was willing to torture and kill a child, or sell him into sexual slavery, really twists the knife."

I think you got the wrong impression of my words. It's true that I love Levi but even if it was any other character in any other story I would still consider "guilt-tripping" a 9-10 year old child by the love he holds for their mother just because they were defending themself from getting sold out and murdered as hurtful and manipulative words. But as I said we agree to disagree.

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What really pisses me off about that guy with glasses is he made Levi doubt Kenny was his father. Even if he supposedly didn't believe it at that time he definitely implanted such sensitive piece of information into a 9-10 year old child. You can clearly see the shock in Levi's reaction once the guy refers to him as "Kenny's bastard child":

I'm pretty sure from that moment on up until his last encounter with Kenny Levi thought he was left all alone as a child in the underground by his father. He probably thought his father didn't love him and left him be without explaining so much as to where his power even originates from. Can you even imagine what could such experience and such set of thoughts possibly do to a little child?

Despite all that it's just so admirable that Levi never failed to value human life. He fought for humanity till the bitter end because as he put it himself he didn't want people to go through the same hell as he did.

This fact alone once again emphasizes the importance of this speech. Levi was ready to play the role of the lunatic so that nobody would have to go through the same hardships as he did, both as a child and as an adult.

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cosmicjoke

Amen.

That's such a good point about that piece of shit in the glasses. Like I said before, I think that man was the vilest of all of that group, and that is saying a LOT. Levi went through practically his entire life believing he was unwanted and unloved by his own father, and blaming himself for that, thinking Kenny left him because something was wrong with him, or he'd disappointed him in some way, when in reality, it was just that Kenny was too selfish to take care of Levi.

It really is remarkable and so hugely admirable, then, that Levi continued to value the lives of others so much. Because nobody ever showed him his own life mattered. It was just Levi's good nature that overcame the tragedy of his life. That instead of becoming bitter and hateful and wanting to put back on everyone else what he went through, he instead wanted to protect them from it and give them a chance at something better. It's really Levi's innate empathy that allowed him not to project the misery of his life onto others, and allowed him to see the worth in their lives, despite feeling none in his own. Because Levi has always had such a remarkable ability to see things from other people's perspectives, and to understand things from other people's perspectives. He's just such a good man.

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nuri148

Not defending that POS in any way, but you can't blame him for thinking that, really.

From the guy's pov:

  • Kenny, ruthless, dangerous, murderous Kenny is "taking care of" a child
  • For quite some time now
  • The child of a prostitute whom he visited at least twice
  • A child who displays the same unique power as Kenny
  • And possibly bears a passing resemblance to him.

Anyone would have speculated the same really. Even if this guy hadn't said anything, Levi could have thougt the same later on, when learning Kenny was an Ackerman and that he and Mikasa had both experienced the awakening. He only learnt Kuchel was an Ackerman when Kenny said so in his last breath, after all.

It doesn't matter, though, because the point is the damage it caused Levi by him saying it. If Levi hadn't thought it before, or the thought hadn't occurred to him before, which it doesn't seem to have, given Levi's reaction, he would certainly think it after what this bastard said, and it would have only worsened Levi's pain when Kenny abandoned him.

@cosmicjoke Exactly!

@nuri148 My point of making this post is not about what that guy or anyone else speculated. It was to emphasize the emotional pain this man was intending to cause Levi. In other words, imposing such hurtful words and guilt-tripping him on purpose just so save his own ass. It doesn't really matter what he or anyone else would've thought at that point.

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1. The mother and child reminded him of his time with his own mother. This time with the difference that he had the power to protect that starved mother & child from having the same fate as Kuchel.

2. He knew what would've happened to Ramzi hadn't he stopped the Marleyans because he had already experienced the cruelty of those in power just because he wanted to take back what was already his.

Now we're even more certain of Levi Ackerman's caring personality and compassion ❤️

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cosmicjoke

Man, I was immediately reminded of Levi and Ramzi while reading "Bad Boy". The parallel and, more importantly, the contrast between how Levi is treated while trying to retrieve his mother's belongings, compared to the way Levi treats Ramzi for trying to steal Sasha's purse, and then his own, is so moving. He refuses to let this kid suffer in the same way he did.

Levi could have so easily let the cruelty he suffered as a child turn him cruel, too. He could so easily have become bitter and vengeful. But instead he chose to be the opposite. He chose to be kind and caring and compassionate. What a miracle of a man, to be so good, and to still care so much about others, while experiencing the worst humanity has to offer. That can only come down to an innate goodness in him, to refute the wretchedness of his own life by saving others from ever having to experience the same.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

I can't agree more! Bad boy just further proves that despite everything Levi's been through both as a child and afterwards as a soldier, because of his own "innate goodness" (as you pointed out), he chose compassion over putting other into the same hellish experiences he was well acquainted with.

With respect to Ramzi, Levi could've easily turned a blind eye and let the Marleyans beat him up for stealing the way those cruel bandits beat Levi until he was basically on the verge of death; however, he refused to that and instead endangered his own cover to save a child. This point alone speaks volumes of his kind heart. I just love this man ♥️

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