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Shipping in every anime I watch!!!
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Every Opportunity Pokemon Missed by not having Drew in Destiny Deoxys: A Non-Comprehensive But Still Long-Ass list

Art above- credit to the lovely @salon-maiden-anabel ! So. This is a topic that, if my sister mentions, she knows I will go off about it at the dinner table while my mother stares on confusedly. This is a topic I feel very strongly about, and I decided to put it into words for this post-and I KNOW I'm not the only one with strong feelings about this topic! @raich-raichu I know you showed interest in this topic when I said I'd do it so hope you don't mind if I @ you! THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE: PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE REBLOG WITH YOUR OWN OPINIONS AND/OR ADDITIONS ON THIS. I thrive on hearing everyone's takes and opinions. Images are included which makes it kind of long, each number on my list has a corresponding image below. For funsies. Also, I imagine this happening right before the last grand festival, though I know that’s incorrect. It just gives me more developed characters to work with since advanced and battle frontier Drew are pretty different development wise. This is with late AG Drew.

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I've Been Tired

2012 Leo x reader

Summary: After being blown off by Leo for the third time in a row, you finally snap. Hurt, no comfort, and...I'm only a little bit sorry. If people like this, I might do a sequel.

*Update, I did, it's a miniseries now.

Bad end: "No." and No pt.2

Good end: "Yes."

Tagging @xyntix for this Leo angst because apparently we both enjoy hurting the Blue One >:)

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  You were tired, quite frankly.

  It wasn’t like you were mad at Leo, just….tired. Hurt, maybe. 

  And so maybe you’d pulled a Raph and stormed off, but it was probably better than yelling and fudging the situation up even more, right? Plus, you were pretty sure your frustration was at least sorta justified- it wasn’t like you were mad that Leo liked Karai, that’d be shitty of you- no, you were mad that he’d skipped movie night for the third week in a row. Which wouldn’t be a huge deal on its own…if you’d maybe been able to see him for more than two minutes in the past three weeks.

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'My Brother's an Idiot' Blues

2012 Leo x reader

Part two to 'I've Been Tired'

Bad end: "No." and No pt.2

Good end: "Yes."

Chapter Summary: Discussions at midnight, an angry ADHD kid who somehow ends up the temporary family therapist while he wards off his violent urges, tough choices, platonic Raph & reader, and sleep deprived turtles.

...All in all, it was very fun to write.

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  Raph punched a wall.

  Leonardo was an idiot.  

  Raph groaned, stomping on the ground. 

  “Why is the guy so obsessed with hanging out with The Shredder’s daughter who’s tried killing us  multiple times?! Leo’s gonna get himself hurt, and then what?! And it doesn’t help that none of them bother to listen to me ever, Spi-”

  He deflated, staring at the empty tank.

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"Yes."

2012 Leo x reader

Sad ending version: "No." and No pt.2

Chapter Summary: You accept Leo's offer to be friends again!! (Or possibly more, mayhaps?)

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  “...Okay.” You said finally, after what felt like an eternity, and Leo snapped his head up to look at you.

  “Really?!” He exclaimed, his voice coming out a few octaves higher than usual.

  You shrugged from the fire escape, and despite your positive words, you looked conflicted. Leo’s heart sank a tad.

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"Yes."

2012 Leo x reader

Sad ending version: "No." and No pt.2

Chapter Summary: You accept Leo's offer to be friends again!! (Or possibly more, mayhaps?)

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  “...Okay.” You said finally, after what felt like an eternity, and Leo snapped his head up to look at you.

  “Really?!” He exclaimed, his voice coming out a few octaves higher than usual.

  You shrugged from the fire escape, and despite your positive words, you looked conflicted. Leo’s heart sank a tad.

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Compiled cbw’s Kuraneo thoughts + theories

Warning : Don’t read if you’re a Kuraneo antis. For fellow Kuraneo fans, just because I write it doesn’t mean you have to agree. There are multiple but no wrong ways to interpret the ship and my opinion below strongly follows the canon storyline. We don’t need any reason to ship anything but considering their rocky start, it’s fun to analyze what happen.

Disclaimer : HxH belongs to Yoshihiro Togashi.

Is it really a senseless ship?

Most complaints regarding Kuraneo is how problematic the ship is and the impossibility for Kuraneo to happen. The main problems are : Neon is a body collector, therefore it is impossible for Kurapika to be with her. Especially when she specifically collects scarlet eyes. Neon is also a shallow childish brat, while Kurapika is portrayed as a mature, cool-headed protagonist. But is it really?

Implications to be Canon

In January 2020 I spared my time to catch up with HxH. It really surprised me after I read the manga carefully, Kurapika was given the title of ‘young boss/underboss’ in Nostrade family. Whoever has seen the Godfather and read Cosa Nostra Wikipedia page would know that the title is usually given to a son. He could’ve been given the title ‘consigliere’’, but he didn’t. There has been several changes in translation but he still is the Nostrade family leader(The Japanese version is Waka-Gashira(Young Boss), under Oyabun(Boss), while consigliere is Saiko-Komon). That gave me an assumption : “What if he is a Nostrade now?” I am not surprised since a man marries into a girl’s family is kind of traditional norm in Japan (Reference : mukoyōshi (婿養子).

“ A mukoyōshi (婿養子) (literally “adopted son-in-law”) is an adult man who is adopted into a Japanese family as a daughter’s husband, and who takes the family’s surname.
Generally in Japan, a woman takes her husband’s name and is adopted into his family. When a family, especially one with a well established business, has no male heir but has an unwed daughter of a suitable age, she will marry the mukoyōshi, a man chosen especially for his ability to run the family business.[1] If there is no daughter, the candidate can take a bride from outside his adopted family (fūfu-yōshi: 夫婦養子). This is done to preserve the business and name of the family when there is no suitable male heir, since traditionally businesses are inherited by the oldest male heir. Mukoyōshi is also practiced if there is no capable male heir to run the family business.[1] This is a centuries-old tradition and is still widely practiced today. Many Japanese companies with household names such as Nintendo, Kikkoman, and Toyota have adopted this practice.[1] This adult adoption may take place in marriages where the woman’s family is of a higher socio-economic rank than the man’s family, where the woman has no brothers to be the heir to the family name, when the man has been disowned by his own family, or when the man’s natural family comes from a notorious or shameful background and he thus prefers to hide his identity. “ 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukoy%C5%8Dshi) (picture source : Kurapika x Neon Facebook page)

Kurapika and Neon are also paired in the Mobage which implies that the creator himself has approved the ship. There is a reason why Meruem and Bisky is not paired together.

Looking at Kurapika as a character

Now let’s look at Kurapika’s character. His character goal is to avenge his clan and collect all his brother and sister’s eyes. He’s shown to have strong prejudice against flesh collector and even decided to work for Nostrade family based on that reason. He went as far as planning to arrest them before meeting Neon. And even after meeting Neon, he convinced himself once again that in order to pursue his goal, he is willing to kill her (”If I have to kill her, so be it”, as rephrased my Melody). Yet he is also shown to be pleased when he is pointed as the head bodyguard, stating that “I didn’t think… It would work out so quickly” .He seems to have completely changed his plan. Because what is better than arresting/killing Neon? That would be having access to Nostrade’s family resources by being Light’s trusted person. And after Neon lost her power, Light Nostrade is shown to be losing his mind, being unable to function normally as a leader. Begging Kurapika to turn “Neon back to normal”. Kurapika does the job instead for Light, saying that “Don’t worry. I’ll handle everything.” At this point, he is the suitable guy to run the family. Considering his Waka-Gashira title, it is safe to assume he got the title by marrying her through son-in-law adoption. Looking at Neon as a character I am a big fan of aspoonofsugar’s character meta posts and the post about Neon’s Nen and Character insight brings a new perspective on how I see Neon.

https://aspoonofsugar.tumblr.com/post/176668230707/nen-and-characters-neon-nostrade Neon prefers not to be involved with people. She is clingy to her material possessions but not to people, as implied in her reaction to Dalzollene’s death. While all her bodyguards and haters assume that she’s a heartless unempathetic character. The actual reason is related to her belief. For Neon, the present is the only thing that matter. She shows her empathetic side when Chrollo cried and Eliza broke down hearing Squalla’s death. She cares about the livings and her noble altruistic power reflects her character.

Regarding the son-in-law theory, I would say that she simply does not have a say in this matter when her family is crashing down. We are never shown Neon’s perspective on Kurapika  whether she likes him or not. I personally never ever once see a canon scene where Neon is implied to have crush on Kurapika. She had fluttering heart moment for Chrollo instead and I guess that’s because Chrollo is one of the people whom has shown genuine emotions in front of her, just like Eliza over Squalla. Her appreciation to genuine feelings and honesty is probably caused by Light’s many lies in order to use her power.

We’re told the story from Kurapika’s point of view, therefore it’s very easy to antagonize Neon like majority of her haters. But given Neon’s appreciation to honesty and authenticity, who is at fault here? Kurapika just appears in her life, planning to use her and her family for his ends. He is just another Chrollo and Light Nostrade. (IRONICALLY This is why I ship their very unique relationship. But they do need each other for provision and protection, so props for Kurapika lmao) 

So if the son-in-law theory is true, is it possible for them have feelings for each other?

Of course it wasn’t long before we got twists here and there. Neon’s power disappearance from Chrollo’s book, Kurapika referring himself not having the place to go home anymore. He seems to have so much authority to access Nostrade family resources without having a friendly term with them. Assuming they don’t have a normal loving relationship at the first sight makes sense. I don’t think anyone marrying into Nostrade family will ever get their emotional needs fulfilled. Nostrade is never the traditional happy family. Neon is emotionally detached and Light only cares about power. They are the opposite of Zoldyck whom are sick in their own way. They only care about themselves and Kurapika is also one. He missed Gon’s recovery and does not seem to value his own life. In other words. Doesn’t that mean Kurapika is only using her, then?

Yes, initially. From my intrepretation, I always think people got it backwards about Kurapika and Neon. Kurapika has an icy facade, but he is the type of person who grow on people, while Neon is not. Even when he distanced himself from the other bodyguards at their first meeting, he is the one who cares the most about his “comrades”/teammates, he punched Uvo for killing his teammates. Neon, on the other hand, doesn’t even flinch when she heard that Dalzolenne is dead although he’s been the one who took care of her. She even made one of her servant as wall decoration. But there is a possibility she also grows on people AS LONG AS they’re still alive, that’s why she cared about Eliza. The problem is, once they’re dead, they become another story in the irrelevant past. That does not make her a bad person in grey HxH universe, but someone with different values due to her belief and upbringing. Kurapika demonstrates his understanding of her when describing her to Basho. In fact, he is the most understanding person that treats her nicely and does not harm her even though he had the intention to. Kurapika didn’t think Neon losing her ability as the family downfall or disability, unlike her own father. As much as assuring everything will be okay when Light broke down in GI Arc. This is a huge revolution in her life because since Kurapika stepped in, someone is finally using her without the need of her ability.

Neon’s loss of ability actually sounds like a parallel to Pairo when people around them refer them as “not normal” for having less functional leg and no ghostwriter ability. They were also both supposed to be under his care/companion when the accident happened. This leaves a huge question mark for me of how Kurapika interprets her at this point. Is he only using her or he feels responsible? or both?

This leaves us some possibilities if their relationship was merely based on physical attraction & familiarity or if it will grow into something more.

This only means he likes her enough to marry/sleep with her but still barred from prejudice to consider her as his friend. (Even this is debatable, Kurapika simply could be a private person and given that his clan was living in hidden presence, it’s only normal if he want to hide Neon’s presence too. Also “Traditionally, part of the Mafia code is to keep the wives and mothers out of the loop of confidences for their own safety” is an actual study from The Independent,UK.)

And Neon also likes him enough to marry/sleep with him but not enough to get involved in his life. (Or is she? Sometimes I have to remind myself HxH can’t be seen through normal perspective because no hunter is fit for normal family life. So maybe Neon’s dismissive attitude makes her the perfect one for him)

OR…they are in loving relationship off-screen. I’d say this is a very high probability because Neon’s design is strongly based on Princess Luna from Level E, where she is a love interest to Prince Baka. The story take it lightly despite being “king x revolutionary” couple. And while for us, it feels like a long time. For the in-universe characters, black whale is only like a month of work CMIIW. 

My answer is yes, they do harbor some sort of affection in canon. We have a negative perception on arranged marriage, assuming the affection is not valid because it is a form of Stockholm syndrome. I will quote my argument straight from Quora where the responder had successfully arranged more than 40 marriages.

“Not every western theory is a reality. I think those who do not know the basics of arranged marriage speak at will and trying to create a fear syndrome against a successful system…”
“…Those who shun arranged marriages can live as they wish. Law does not prevent them to be at liberty. They have no business to criticize a system which is far better than other ways of creating male female relationships. Stockholm syndrome belongs to Stockholm… They are civilized enough to live in a system where there is nothing to lose. Stockholm syndrome is an illusion.One should not insult a culture without knowing an iota of that system. “ https://www.quora.com/I-feel-that-the-affection-after-an-arranged-marriage-is-basically-a-form-of-Stockholm-syndrome-What-is-your-opinion-on-this

Or maybe, there is nothing between them yet and these implications are just a foreshadow to what’s planned for them

What if she’s dead?

Some people would say Kurapika killed her but that is totally impossible and out of character. Her death is only assumed by the Phantom Troupe because her power dissapear from the book. Nen is extremely flexible concept even in-universe and there are many ways to work around that. Also in contradictive, Kurapika managed to take 9 pairs of eyes from ‘the mafia’s daughter’ without killing anyone. I doubt he would do nothing after Chrollo stole her ability. I assume it would be insulting to Kurapika considering he takes his job seriously and inheriting Nostrade name.

And frankly, I don’t care if she’s dead. Kakin war arc & Dark continent arc will also take approximately 20-40 years to finish. Whether she’s dead or not I’m going to enjoy my time with my interpretations based on canon implications given. And if she is indeed proven to be dead, I’ll accept it and just have fun in the fandom. I respect Togashi as the author.

Why don’t the Nostrade just adopt Kurapika without the marriage?

I dunno, better ask mafias and Japanese. Because based on this theory, they clearly like to keep it in the family, I’m just reading my references.

cbw’s Final words

This theory is inspired from baby foreshadowing theory in reddit (page: HxH craziest theory), which inspired me to write my fic. Which, inspired me again to write this son-in-law theory.

I am combining implications from “Cosa Nostra”, “Waka-gashira”(The similar organization structure), “Godfather”(How Kurapika gain Light’s trust), “Son-in-law adoption”(Underboss in Sicily organization structure), Neon&Kurapika paired cards in Mobage, and Princess Luna from Level E as spouse from opposing faction(The base for Neon’s character)

Whilst the western sources about obtaining the title in mafia marriage is abundant, the sources regarding obtaining the title in yakuza marriage are Until Death Do Us Part and & GTA:Liberty City

Toshiko Kasen: My husband is samurai, Mr. Toni. He is very strong… but very, very bad. He only married me to become waka-gashira in Liberty City.
https://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=A_Date_With_Death&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

(Page 161 Until Death Do Us Part)

Honestly after my last note, I gave it another thought and I couldn’t possibly see another explanation of why he could be a Nostrade family boss. If anyone asks me, I refuse to ignore the implications Togashi gave and say they’re canon 100%.

Given Kuraneo’s complex relationship and their neutral interaction, its brilliance lies in how flexible people can be in interpreting them. I enjoy many different kind of interpretations whether its reciprocrated or one sided. My favorite thing about Kuraneo is although we never get any implication that Neon ever noticed Kurapika, many fics describe it as the other way round because from Neon’s POV it would be liking someone that embody her fetish. I especially love this headcanon, love it when people portray Neon as deviant.That escalate from 0 to 100 real quick. Being a part of Nostrade also means Kurapika gets to accept his past as something that shapes him to be the man he is today. But honestly, I just love hateships and their big chances of hating each other.

I would say that whatever off-screen and how readers interpret their relationsip and feelings is up for us to decide until HxH truly reach the ending. And that’s only if Togashi is willing to disclose their relationship. I would be happy if they become canon, but if not then I’ll still ship them just like how I will still ship Pitou x Kai and Chrollo x Kurapika. Naoko Takeuchi, Togashi’s wife said once in her interview that she likes seeing different interpretations of Sailor Moon from her fans. I’m a Sailor Moon fan too and I wish to respect her view by applying the same to her husband’s works.

Thanks for reading!

I love this theory so much, it hurts.

Okay just to add. I was watching The Godfather movie (I haven’t watched the part 2 and 3 by the way) and another thing I learned is the consigliere term. Was discussing this with @anotherworldash

Consigliere = a member of a Mafia family who serves as an adviser to the leader and resolves disputes within the family.

I feel like, Kurapika suits this role. A young boss in the mafia family has to be a son-in-law or a son.

So why is Kurapika the “Nostrade family young boss”? I’m not saying anything is canon 

but kinda sus here. 

He changed their business model. You know what it means when it comes to family business. Can haters argue with this fact alone¿?

Being a consigliere only gives advises. The final decisions still go to the mafia boss. Now, Kurapika was able to change the business model. I doubt he’d be able to do that if he was a consigliere, and even more so when he got promoted as the head bodyguard.

Arguably, it could be that Light took a leap of faith in desperation since they were broke and let Kurapika remodel the family business. However, it still doesn’t make sense why Light would step down and give the “head of the Nostrade family” to an outsider. Even in normal family businesses, it’s rare for the owners to give leadership to someone that isn’t a family member. It’s a matter of family legacy - I doubt Light will just give it away.

Now, I hear arguments that Kurapika took over and let Light and Neon wither off or something. My issue with that is a) why does Kurapika need to take over the Nostrade organisation when he can seek employment elsewhere, b) why does he need to keep the Nostrade name if he took over.

As for Kurapika, I think he will do anything to make acquiring the Scarlet Eyes easier. Between an employer (like a consigliere or a bodyguard) and the family boss, it would be more beneficial to him to be able to call the shots. And based on the current arc, he is the boss now.

This might be just wishful thinking but my guess is that Light Nostrade offered Kurapika to be the boss, to continue his family business by making him part of the family. Which is, to marry Neon and be the son-in-law.

Light Nostrade to Kurapika:

I’m not only saying this just because I ship Kurapika/Neon. Heck, Kurapika may not even care about Neon even if she were to be his wife. I like this theory because it does add a layer to Kurapika’s character. It indicates how he’s willing to go far just to achieve his motives. There’s also an irony to it, given that he wanted to arrest flesh collectors, yet here he is marrying one. The moral conflict that involves with it is definitely something that would be more profound (and it’d be more dire if he even feels physical attraction towards a person he should hate!)

Another thing is that it could be a good disguise. If Kurapika is actively collecting Scarlet Eyes, it would be suspicious. But then he could just justify it with “oh I’m buying it for her because I want to impress her” excuse. Alternatively, he could also say that he is merely interested in collecting it for himself, but that might be less convincing and brings further questions on why he’s so hellbounded by wanting to acquire them.

Ok sorry ya'all, yes I’m a bit crazy right now.

I am literally like this guy over here:

So I was talking to @anotherworldash about these two panels:

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As someone from an Asian Catholic family, it bothers me that there seems to be Catholic/Christian statues. It looks like Mother Mary and there is an angel statue at one of them.

I’ve always wondered if the Kurtas had any religion but there is no indication that they are affliated with the Christian/Catholic religion. There’s no information about religion.

So… I’m kinda asking why Kurapika is having a shrine with seemingly Catholic/Christian statues? It could have been an East Asian-influenced shrine that people use during the Ghost Month (7th Month of the Lunar Calendar).

It may be insignificant but why Togashi have to draw this? Does it have something to do with him being in the leader of the Nostrade family?

Maybe because the Nostrade family is influenced by French and Italian; and it’s affliated with Catholicism as one of the major religious groups. And he converted when he married Neon.

I’m just being crazy I guess. Kinda sus tho.

Thank you so much friend for adding to this theory! It makes me really happy someone finally recognize the potential of this ship, without downplaying the importance of organization structure. This theory doesn’t even need to be true, it can still be wrong and still really great to explore.

Undeniably, there are flaws in this theory ; Canonically, we are not sure which reference the author (Togashi-sensei) use for Nostrade; The usual family business? The Cosa Nostra mafia? Or the Yakuza? Since the three overlaps each other???

Nostrade being a family business : in Kurapika’s title (No su to ra- do  fa mi ri- wa ka ga shi ra = NOSTRADE FAMILY YOUNGBOSS)

How to obtain title : Adult adoptions (Keeping Japan’s family firms alive :  https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19505088 )

While usual yakuza family/organization where no marriage takes place :

How to obtain title :

Sake sharing

( Source : The History of the Mafia - Nigel Cawthorne )

All ended with

組 gumi : association, braid, plait, construct, assemble, unite, cooperate, grapple

会 kai : meeting , meet, party, association, interview, join

So which is it?

Personally, for me it could be combination of both. Even in real life cases, the possibilities to acquire a position are endless.

I looove the marriage theory, but, I feel like, whether he is already married to Neon, or not, or not yet ; Their relationship is saved for later (meaning it hasn’t happened yet in canon storyline, if it were to happen), since his dialogue here :

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TBH He sounds unhappy. I think their relationship is based on mere physical attraction at this point. Clearly, their romantic relationship won’t happen magically, if it were to happen.

Neon won’t magically stop being emotionally detached. Kurapika is still chasing his goal…. And it is a good thing. It is something worth expecting in the canon, and definitely something worth exploring in the fanon (I know this is our favorite thing lmao). This ship is diffficult, which makes it so unique.

As for your screenshots above with Christian/Catholic reference, although I feel like it doesn’t prove anything, it is a promising clue of where he was(influenced by Nostrade). The two panels are easily dismissed by reader. But for author, drawing those mere two panels could take them some time. So, yeah, something to think about.

Since if he solely follow his clan’s culture/religion/custom???? there would be no need to put Mother Mary statue.

The comparison of Kurapika’s hometown architecture compared to Nostrade’s :

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(Below is more western-ish architecture : Probably Italian/French reference, since its name is… Nostrade )

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European painting in Nostrade mansion :

Interesting, right?

Anyway ultimately :

Kurapika & Neon’s portrayal as starcrossed lover;  Orihime & Hikoboshi is official. Probably it’s on character guidelines? One thing for sure, it is approved by the author. Also disclaimer : As the respective characters belong to Yoshihiro Togashi, pointing the implications doesn’t mean we demand this ship to be canon. But we are more than happy talking about it; exploring their dynamic & possibilities.

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