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dont ever talk to my husband or his son ever again 😃

omg I've been reading COIE and this actually happened in canon in Legends of the DCU: Crisis on Infinite Earths

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The Robin in the panel is Jason I think

I totally understand why you would think that's Jason but it is Dick

Legends of the DCU: Crisis on Infinite Earths came out in February of 1999 so it's a retroactive addition to the original 1985 COIE that takes place in an alternate universe. comics can be so confusing 😔

Poor Bruce thought Duke was going to tell him something else and just wanted to be supportive :(

Commission Info / Kofi

The Signal as a cat!1! He has kitty ears so therefore: cat. :3

hits head against the table jason didn’t want bruce to kill the joker he wanted bruce to let him kill the joker the ultimatum wasn’t “kill the joker or kill me” it was “kill me or i kill the joker”

like yeah he wanted bruce to avenge him but realised “okay bruce won’t kill the joker. but he can still die. bruce won’t have to break his rule and i can still be avenged because he’s letting me do it myself”

and right before this was the conversation where jason demanded WHY. WHY did you let him live after he took me from you? WHY didn’t you kill him?

and bruce answers with how he wants to kill the joker but can’t cross that line.

jason wanted to be avenged because in his mind that meant bruce cared about him. and if bruce can’t kill the joker that’s fine jason can kill the joker and as long as bruce lets him kill the joker that’s proof enough that bruce cared about him

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Please tell me how Duke,Cass and Stephanie getting nonstop left out of Batfam content isn't because of antiblackness,racialized misogyny and a mix of gender essentialism,classism and ableism.When none of you can shut the fuck up about how 'black haired and blue eyed male is the only requirement for a Batkid!' and go as far as to include 'pale/fair skinned' sometimes when Damian and Dick are brownskin in multiple versions because of being brown in heritage and Damian and Jason have green eyes half the time and by saying 'lighteyed' when it comes to Batboys,that would be problematic but it'd at least include Duke since he's gold eyed due to Gnonom and you probably don't even know who that is since you actively refuse to meet Duke even though he's easiest Batkid to read for BECAUSE he's got so little content and Cass and Stephanie also have a small amount of material compared to the other boys

When Cass is chosen over Duke for Jason by all of you even though she hates him and she chooses Stephanie again and again against everyone's wishes and Duke canonically WANTS to be chosen for fucking once and Jason DID choose him and is the only other Batboy who called him a Robin directly outside of Robin War and Stephanie's dying wish was be 'a real Robin' and Cass' character creation purpose is to defy the idea that asian women exist only for white men and go against other asian girl stereotypes,INCLUDING being purely soft and feminine by making her a rough and tough butch who hates cis men.When you say 'Fuck canon,fanon is better!' to justify your millions of rewrites to erase Tim's Robin being a romani man and his Batgirl a half chinese girl and Jason's Robin and Batgirl being a black autistic boy and his Batgirl a bpdtistic male explotation victim and your crossovers of characters who have the perfect parents or at least caretakers in canon but suddenly,canon is your gospel when it comes to the bigotry in it's writing i.e how 'The core Batkids' came to be

And the fact is,that's like the only Batkids combo that DOSEN'T make sense!The Dead Robins Club is a no brainer but there's also the 90s Batkids trinity,the Shakespearen Robins(Jason,Stephanie and Duke),The Troubled Batkids(Tim,Stephanie,Cass and Duke),Batman!Cass Batwoman!Stephanie Robin!Maps and Trans Batgirl!Damian and the ONLY CANON Nightwing Robin and Batgirl trio we've ever gotten in Dick Tim and Cass??????You have some of the best dynamics of all time possible but nah,you'd rather pass it over for infantalizing a grown ass disabled moc into your pathetic lil pretty obsessed manchild,turning thee dead sidekick into a convuluted mess more than canon ever has and that's saying BIG words,cringeifying someone who just has the personality of an ordinary of 17 year old boy and is therefore inherently lovable into the arranged marriage lovechild of a dark romance guy and a pick me quotev girl and dehumanize a cute and sweet lil brown boy who's got that trauma already to turn him into an animal in human mold in the same breath you bash him healing enough to get a gf through trauma bonding and being kiddy together in favor of your groody ass lil age gap fantasy-Actually,that applies to ALL OF THEM

Kory,Rose and STEPHANIE are infinitely better written love interests for Dick,Jason and Tim than any older man you want them to get with,Tim most of all because he's not even a man,he's a boy.Cass and Stephanie are adults and have been for a long time in multiple incarnations so why not make Stephcass smut instead?Why not 'Duke joins the Batfam early/Jason takes Duke into The Outlaws after he has a fight with Bruce that scared him/Sleep Deprived Duke Thomas/Chaotic Duke Thomas/Duke Thomas deserves better/Trans Duke Thomas/Autistic Duke Thomas?,all of which are infinitely more implicable to Duke than they are to Tim and so is 'Token Normal Tim Drake'?When you make this content or you support it,you're saying something.You're saying you don't care about representation and perfer stereotyping and abusive dynamics because you believe they're inherently more interesting

Before you judge this post,consider the following:Which one of us has read enough comics and watched enough adaptions to know all this?Which one of us has more of a right to call themself a Batfam and Batkids fan?Which one of us is constantly gatekeeping Duke,Cass and Stephanie from their own story and pulling the 'No,YOU!!!!' card?It's absolutely pathetic how desperate the grip Batfanon has taken is and even more so that y'all refuse to move on from it like i did.It's not gonna kill you,you pissbabies.And just curious,how long was the last Batfam-centric post you rb'd?Longer than this,right?

Bruce’s parents died when he was eight. Dicks parents died when he was eight. Bruce sees a little boy crying and thinks of himself. It is only natural.

But Bruce’s parents die and Gotham give him a manor. Dick gets taken away from the only home he ever knew.

Gotham takes the Wayne and Batman names and elevates them, makes them cornerstones of the city. Gotham takes Dicks names away. Robin is taken as it had never belonged to him. Gotham redefines the Grayson name to a tool to be used.

Bruce falls into a narrative that priorities his grief as Dick's becomes muddled. As Dick's place is defined by a set of keys to a home he will never own, Bruce's has his in a W on a skyscraper.

To Bruce they are the same. He took Dick in because they have the same story. They channel the same grief into their mantles. But there are dimensions that spread far beyond that first fall that Bruce lets himself be blind to.

Sometimes I think about how Bruce needs to parallel Dicks story to his own to understand him, but he can never understand the inherent differences between him and Dick. In some ways Gotham takes from Dick in the same dimensions it gives to Bruce

she would not fucking be shorter than him

You can fight me on this, IDGAF, but "I'm not talking about killing Penguin, or Scarecrow, or Dent, I'm talking about him. Just him. And doing it because... because he took me away from you." is one of DC's most perfectly crafted short monologues ever. It sums up a whole character in a few, simple lines. It sums up Jason's motives, hopes, and pain.

steph: why did duke just deck green lantern in the middle of the street, in civvies?

tim: they have beef

steph: cool, ten bucks says duke wins

jason: twenty says this becomes a meme 'random highschooler beats the shit out of justice league member' and hal wont show his face in gotham again

tim: forty, bruce will buy him a car for humiliating hal out of gotham

discourse about batman's no-kill rule is so funny. imagine if a dude was like "i personally will not commit any murders and if any of my kids do i will be unhappy" and everyone booed him

It's just one murder Bruce, how much could it cost? Your personal, reasonable boundaries?

This is sarcastic but still makes sense like I don’t want my kids doing the shit my friends do especially shit that I fight with my friends about doing like…

Catholic Jason Todd reeks for reasons i've already stated(Steals Helena's thing + Ruins the point of his Red Hood days having zero guilt to them until his redemption arc and thus weakens it)but tbh an additional one for me is that i'm a Jason kinnie and that includes being an afro-dominican who was raised in latino christianity and i have zero guilt over abandoning it because 95% of the time it's just used as an excuse to be a bigot and perpetuate generational trauma so i don't have interest in or poditive feelings towards it.Jason's opinion on it taking our similarities and him going through all That in canon into account is probably something like 'I hope God dies' /meme ref

i think duke thomas can look up at the eclipse and be fine actually

i think if bruce saw clark deliver this line it would awaken shrimp emotions in him

It took me a moment to process what is happening, bloody hell.