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lauralot89

my advice as an aunt is to do less. try less hard. you make a baby blanket for the first one? gotta do it for all of them. hand make a birthday card for the first one? now it's expected

underachieve.

This is sage advice *takes notes*

and yes, I did make this post while taking a break for working on a handmade card for my second niece's birthday

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To recognize TERFs, anti’s, fash, incels and other internet shitstains, one pattern you need to recognize is this:

  1. They take some normal human behavior
  2. Explain it in the darkest, most bad faith way possible
  3. And then ignore any other, often more realistic, explanation.

A simple example:

  1. A lot of adults watch TV shows about high school relationship drama.
  2. Dark bad faith take: all these adults are obsessing over teenager sex lives because they want to fuck teenagers.
  3. More realistic explanation: a lot of adults have memories of their own high school relationship drama that they like to relive, process, etc through media.
  4. Another realistic explanation: People can empathize with the stories of hobbits, dragons, defense lawyers, plucky detectives, space rebels, talking dogs and teenagers in high school without always having a desire to fuck the characters involved. It is possible to just enjoy a story as a story without it fulfilling some emotional of sexual need.

Like, when you take a tiny step back, it becomes clear that the jump from ‘adults watch high school dramas’ to ‘they all want to fuck teenagers’ is absolute moon logic.

This logic only works if you assume the absolute worst possible things about the group you’re talking about. This logic works if the only lens you can see a group through is ‘predator’ and you do not acknowledge that they are completely humans who can just do non-predatory things like ‘enjoying stories’.

And assuming the absolute worst possible things about a specific group while denying their complexity and humanity… well, that is absolutely key to what TERFs, anti’s, fashos, incels, etc. do.

Someone asked me in private why I grouped ‘TERFs, anti’s, fash, incels’ together. Do I think anti’s are as bad as fash?

Short answer: no, anti’s are not as bad as fash. They’ve done some pretty despicable things. Spreading false accusations, doxxing, suicide baiting, trying to get people fired, stalking, etc. But they’re not trying to gain political power in order to commit genocide. So on the shitstain pyramid they’re a few tiers below fash.

I grouped these in a row here not because they’re all exactly the same amount of terrible, but because they’re groups to watch out for. If you’re a queer person trying to exist safely online, you do not want to interact with any of these groups. If you do not enjoy being brainwashed into a hate group, you do not want to interact with any of these groups.

It’s also notable that TERFs, incels and anti’s all have a tendency to fall down the fash radicalization pipeline because they already share some basic ways of thinking. Assuming the absolute worst possible things about a specific group while denying their complexity and humanity is an example of that shared way of thinking.

#Can someone please explain what ‘anti’ stands for? It’s to common of a term for me to connect it with something specific

Ok, here;s my attempt: ‘Anti’ is a term that emerged in fan fiction communities to describe a group of people who felt that some forms of romantic or erotic fan fiction should be off limits to write. Stuff like:

  • Fiction that describes relationships between characters who are abusive to each other in the original work.
  • Fiction that describes relationships between characters who are related.
  • Fiction that describes relationships with a big age difference.
  • Fiction that describes relationships between minors.
  • Fiction that describes rape.

Ignoring the fact that exploring unethical and potentially unethical situations is an essential part of what fiction is for.  Fan fiction has always been a realm through which people, especially teenagers and young adults , explore their relationship to harm, to trauma, to ethical grey areas, to taboos and to forbidden fantasies. It’s where a lot of teenagers and young adults learn that what is hot in their fantasy isn’t what they want in real life, which is an important part of sexual development.

But according to Anti’s, writing of any romantic or erotic scenario that would be unethical in real life, makes the author itself unethical. This is then used as a reason to cyberbully a person, harass, spread horrible rumors and in some cases stalk, doxx, try to get them fired, to to get them to commit suicide, etc.

Over time the term ‘Anti’ came to be used outside the fan fiction universe as people noticed that the same people doing this stuff were also campaigning against stuff like kink at Pride parades. Anti came to be defined by stuff like:

  • A literal interpretation of fiction in which producing unethical scenarios in fiction is itself unethical.
  • A strong judgement of either all kinks of a lot of kinks, and against the expression of anything remotely kinky in public spaces.
  • A strong judgement against the idea that any teenager is having sex or watching porn before they’re legally an adult. An abstinence-only approach to talking about teen sexuality.
  • A strong judgement against any sort of age differences, which they seem to get stricter on every year. A strong judgement against any friendly interaction between adults and teenagers, no matter how nonsexual. An obsession with the idea that adults are constantly preying on teenagers (hence the ‘watching high school dramas is sexualizing teenagers’ stuff).
  • The idea ‘if it makes me uncomfortable, it must be unethical’.
  • And importantly: the willingness to engage in organized online violence against people who are seen by the Anti’s as violating these rules. Once it has been decided that someone is ‘a predator’ or ‘a pedo’ (usually over something trivial like commenting positively on a fan fic) any amount of violence is deemed justified.

Now most Anti’s are just ‘protect the children’ pearl clutching conservatives who are very online. Most probably spend their younger years being online bullies and their later years campaigning against sex-positive sex education in schools and driving the new satanic panic or some shit like that. But a notable number of Anti’s have gone from these positions towards becoming a terf or a fascist. Turns out that people in a ‘protect the children’ panic mode who see predators everywhere are quite vulnerable to fascist ideology. No big surprise there.

I found another one! Obviously bad faith take of the day: “Ancient vampires lusting after teenagers is a trope pushed by pedophiles to normalize age differences”. Like, no. That’s more bullshit.

Fictional vampires are often interested in teenager girls because the primary readers/viewers of vampire stories are teenage girls, who like imaging themselves as the object of desire. And why do you think teenager girls like reading about magical monsters who desire them? Well, because:

  • They’re very aware that most of the actual boys and men in their life are crap. They do not make good material for their romantic and sexual fantasies.
  • The romantic interest of fantasy can be everything the actual boys and men in their lives are not: courteous, easy to talk to, attentive, interested in culture, etc. In an eternally hot teenage boy body without the toxic masculinity and the acne. But since perfection makes a boring story, there needs to be tension. And one way to create that tension while maintaining the fantasy is to give that perfect man a fictional bad trait that is so obviously unreal that it can be easily separated from the rest of him. A charming man who is secretly an abuser is just an abuser. A charming man who is secretly a vampire or a werewolf is an interesting fictional character because the scary part of him is obviously fake.
  • Desire and fear are key emotions experienced by teenager girls who pursue romance, relationships and/or sex. Going on a date could bring pleasure but also danger. The monster is a metaphor for that particular complicated mixture of emotions. The will-I-won’t-I decision process of the heroin that considers whether to give the vampire/werewolf/phantom/cryptid a chance provides a metaphor of the risk assessment girls and women go through when they decide whether an actual relationship is safe. But again: because the dilemma is fictional, the metaphor can be explored without reading about actual date rape. 

These stories about monsters who desire teenage girls appear again and again because they meet the needs of teenage female readers. It’s simple as that. We do not need to invent a sinister hidden agenda to explain why these stories are popular.

And it’s fine to comment on how weird some of these fictional relationships are. I love that What We Do In The Shadows joke. But the moment we start looking for a sinister agenda behind the fact that teenage girls like reading about vampires who like teenage girls, we’re on the weird conspiracy slide. 

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thewuzzy

i’m obsessed with the mum from ponyo. driving single lane on a cliff edge? drift those turns in your nissan cube. husband has to work an extra shift? tell him to fuck off in morse code. pet fish turned into a child on your driveway? adopt her. town drowned in a tsunami? leave your 5 year old in charge, he’s the man of the house now

ideal woman to me and i am not kidding

SHE SHOULD BE AT THE CLUB

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lastoneout

I don’t think the club could handle her

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