The way they’re literally in order.
crazy how sam is just Some Fucking Dude.
he was not burdened with prophetic visions and gulping down demon blood and had his autonomy violated since birth and was literally the sacrificial lamb just for yall to say hes just some dude.
crazy lol.
i love it that early sam is gangly and coltish and cute, but also he’s scrappy and A Terror and extremely good at killing. but i also love it that full-grown sam is giant and visually imposing and looks dangerous while also working to have people not be scared of him and having such a capacity to be gentle. it’s like, he’s always exactly what you’d expect but also the complete opposite of that, he’s always walking the line and keeping the balance. probably it’s a struggle for him but also it serves him well and it looks great on him always. compels me!!!
feel like it’s important to note Sam’s been kidnapped and tied to a chair and no one knows where he is, I mean, he is 100% at the mercy of these vampires that could kill him any second but he’s still being a bitch to their faces. love that for him
so many birds…
MOOSE AND BERBS <3
*whispers* all the chicks love Sam
they indeed!!
(Not so) Fun fact, Jared thought this line was demeaning to victims of domestic violence and tried to refuse to shoot these lines. so Bob Singer made everyone stay late to film it.
Don't you think it's kind of silly to expect Dean to react to Sam drinking BLOOD the same way people react to finding out their loved ones are addicted to drugs??? They're both addictions, but that's where the similarities stop. Gradual withdrawal would mean more innocent people bled so Sam could continue to safely get his "fix". Maybe that's more humane to Sam, but it's hardly humane in general.
You make a good appeal, but it doesn’t have basis in canon fact.
Not really, though? Sam almost exclusively drank Ruby’s blood. Her vessel’s soul had already gone on to heaven. She was the only occupant of that body, and she consented to giving him her blood, going as far as using emotional manipulation to make sure he didn’t continue with his choice (in early s4) to stop drinking it.
Sam has self control. Canonically, he would not have “made innocent people bleed” so he could get a “fix.” He gave in only twice, to my memory (correct me if I’m wrong), both times in extreme circumstances.
He sucked blood from a shallow cut on a demon’s neck in “The Rapture” and immediately used (considering how quickly the withdrawal came on) all of the power he gained from the blood on exorcising the demon in Amelia Novak.
In fact, the only thing that made him drink blood again from anyone other than Ruby (even though two hunters literally force-fed him blood in an attempt to kickstart his addiction) was Famine’s power, which reduced even Castiel to gorging mindlessly on raw meat. It forced lovers to eat each other.
Yet Sam drank a very limited amount of blood, used it only to keep the demons from killing him, and then, in Famine’s ACTUAL presence, which made everyone else mindless with need for fulfillment, Sam not only rejected Famine’s offer of blood from all the demons in the room, but used what little power he had left to take Famine out.
Gradual withdrawal wouldn’t have meant Sam would have drank from other people.
In fact, I’m not even advocating gradual withdrawal. I’m advocating treating Sam like a human being.
I’m saying that lying to a person, forcing them into a room and locking them in, and leaving them with nothing but a bucket for a toilet and a (possible?) pitcher of water (which Sam couldn’t even reach because he was so wracked with withdrawal) is outright inhumane, no matter how you slice it. In my previous post, I linked a couple meta about how to help a person detox; they’re here and here, if you’re interested. I never said or implied that the detox should have been gradual. I only said Sam should have been treated like a human being.
But the assumption that Sam would have consumed the blood of “innocents” and that Dean and Bobby forced a detox without Sam’s knowledge and consent only in order to protect innocents is highly flawed.
(We’re not even going to talk about how Dean was indiscriminately knifing innocents all season with Ruby’s knife, and how Sam originally drank blood because he didn’t want to use the knife and actually wanted to cause minimal harm to vessels. Oops, I talked about it.)
No, I’m afraid it’s straight-up humane. Even something like a gradual withdrawal would not have endangered innocents, based on what we see from Sam in canon.
Sam was not a threat to the general populace. In fact, he had shown in the past that he was able to refuse demon blood and detox himself from it. Dean was angry at Sam after the events of “The Rapture,” and it culminated in forcing him into a detox that would have been fatal and telling Sam, through the bars of the panic room, that he was “weak,” “desperate,” and “pathetic.”
Sam stopped drinking blood for between 1 and 2 months in early season 4, and only started because Ruby blamed his wishy-washy “morality” for putting humans at risk in “Criss Angel is a Douchebag.” She said his selfish choice to not drink blood meant that people would die because of him. He bought it hook, line, and sinker, unfortunately.
Reggie and Tim forced Sam down to the ground and poured blood in his mouth in 5.03. He spat it right back out.
Sam actually showed more control and restraint than anyone could expect from a person addicted to any substance, illegal drug or supernatural stimulant, and the argument you presented doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
Not to be salty on main, but setting Sam up as the only one that would hurt humans to fight evil is completely false, and it completely ignores the fact that Bobby and Dean apparently hung and drained a couple people to ‘prep’ Sam to take on Lucifer. The plot and shooting of the show completely exonerate them by not even showing the moral issue. They just walk through a doorway with gallons of blood while it was deemed necessary for Sam to face the human host. I might add the narrative never shows if she survives and if Sam exorcized her, but I can guarantee that Dean and Bobby didn’t leave a couple demons free to give Lilith heads up.
But that’s never shown, because it’s only Sam’s struggles with morality that get set in a negative light. Dean’s and Bobby’s are almost always brushed over.
imo one of supernatural's greatest weaknesses is what i'm going to call its locational homogeneity. like. obviously this is largely a side effect of filming a show set all over the united states in the same small area of canada for 15 years but there's just a certain sameness to every location and every episode that's uncanny at best and breaks immersion at worst. they should have gone all in on southern gothic horror and spooky old northeastern coastal towns and rural midwestern isolation and instead it's just episode after episode of identical suburbs with arbitrary location titles slapped over them. the seasons never change. the weather is always mild, never with extreme enough temperature or precipitation to require a change from the standard jacket-over-flannel-over-tee costuming even when we see snow on the ground. this episode is set in the summer in idaho. no, wait, it's set in the winter in kentucky. this episode is set in the summerfallwinterspring in kansachusettohiowa. sam and dean travel all over the country and yet stay completely still. supernatural shows us a massive world and it does not turn and absolutely no one lives in it.
That is part of the horror of America though. They even touch on it in that one episode where Cas is hiding from Naomi by flicking between Biggerson's. It was the sameness that made it impossible for them to figure out which one he was at before he moved to another one. Likewise with the rest of the show, all the motels are basically the same, except for the theme of the decor. All the diners are the same. The truck stops, the bathrooms, the hospitals, the suburban neighborhoods and houses. This is what America feels like. Sure the vistas change, the plants, the temps and weather, but it's still all so much the same that it is easy to get lost in it and to feel like there is no escape. So while this sameness was the result of filming practicalities and limitations, they were able to use it to play into the horror elements of the show.
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