YES, to last anon and to some of your points. It very well could be that he left the US and was in Hungary filming his movie and realized he just didn’t miss her like he should. Or was happy to be out from all the things that come with being in the Taylor orb. They were apart for quite awhile before the break up happened, so realizations absolutely could have happened on both sides, no matter if they had a wedding planned or were on contract for a house or it was just as tour was starting. And if it wasn’t working for one or both, no need to delay it. (but I do think it was more Joe that checked out)

Taking this house news into account, I think it’s shitty no matter who decided to be done to do a 180 from marriage/house/commitment to ending a relationship over phone/email/carrier pigeon while in separate countries and multiple time zones apart. But it’s unfortunately what happens and I’m sure the time apart amplified those feelings.

I agree with you that Joe’s team has not said a word and they never will (definitely not them talking to the DM). Tree and Taylor will control the narrative and if they want her to look like the strong/bad-ass who ended a relationship that wasn’t working, that is fine. I don’t necessarily believe it was her alone that made the decision, whether Joe actually ended it or did it through his actions which forced her hand, as I do agree with you that I’m thinking he was struggling with the relationship.

Knowing what you want/ what you feel does not necessarily translate to being good at communicating that to your partner. Those are two entirely different things.

I honestly don't think that if Joe left her for someone else Taylor not would go out to dinner with her friends and to meetings I think she wouldn't leave her house and would only go out for the tour

it’s so sad that they were about to get married and buying a home and then all of those plans have just vanished into thin air ksjdjsdj but at least it happened sooner rather than later when it’s more complicated to separate

Idk if the house thing necessitates drama. financial disagreements are one of the leading causes of long term breakups/divorce, and it makes sense to me that an 8.3 million dollar decision would lead to some tough conversations about the trajectory of their lives and the entanglement of her massive net worth with his still large, but much smaller net worth. Convos about splitting it 50/50, prenups, etc etc etc all could easily lead to a realization that the relationship wouldn’t actually be sustainable long term for the reasons outlined in the people article. So if the purchase was already complete, annoying timing legally, but it’s not like she’s having to spend life changing amounts of time/money on getting rid of the biggest asset she’s ever purchased like if they were “normal people” purchasing their first ever home. We also know she buys/sells homes semi-regularly (and iirc occasionally impulsively?) and that would be a really ~normal~ thing to realize you’re incompatible about in their stage of a relationship. Idk it just doesn’t read as definitelively sudden and dramatic to me, other than like, they hadn’t experienced buying a home together until now and were semi-suddenly confronted with a reality check (that us not ultra wealthy people would’ve maybe recognized at an earlier stage in the process bc buying a house is a Bigger Deal to us peasants lol)

lack of communication can take you dangerous places. when you're working in a foreign country and you're all alone while your partner is working her ass off in an entirely different timezone...

Idk if it has to do with being an empath but I just sympathize with Taylor’s side more because we’ve been hearing her side and her feelings for the past 6 years, and obviously I’ve been a fan forever and followed her journey for like 15 years. I’ve paid attention to Joe but I still don’t know much about him or his side of things, we don’t see him having to deal with this and we likely won’t see him at all until his next press obligation. So whatever happened, I’m just gonna support Taylor in being pissed lol. It’s no different if like a coworker tells me about her breakup with her bf I’ve never met I’m just on her side ya know?

bestie u are DEFINITELY NOT an empath

You’re not a villain for having feelings and knowing what you want, but you’re also not a saint if you’re in a long term relationship planning a future with someone and suddenly change your mind, end it over the phone and fail to even try to figure out what’s going on to cause this or try to fix it. It’s like saying someone married and with kids can just wake up and decide nope not for me and that’s totally cool - come on now! Not saying it doesn’t happen, but the nature of the longterm relationship and commitment should want you to put some effort in and try to figure things out. Because just up and doing a 180 on your wants and feelings isn’t a great look either and certainly not fair to the other person.

just when i think i’ve finally made peace with all of this i’m back in emotional distress

joe's been radio silence on social media (like not following anybody and not liking any posts) since march 26, two weeks before the news. could be a coincidence but weird thing to do if you're fine

But what...he called her to tell her he doesn't love her anymore? when they were planning on getting married and had just bought a house?

Like one day you might just suddenly realise you’re away from them but don’t miss them idk shit happens // then you go and talk to them and end things in person. it's a six year relationship, the other person deserves closure idk