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How long do think it'll be until "all lesbians have straight passing privilege b/c they can hold hands in public and people will think that they are just friends" discourse starts up again?
Yikes was that really a thing?
Unfortunately yes, though it was a while ago, like 2012-13. iirc, a small group of lesbphobic, biphobic, transphobic and aphobic cis gay guys started claiming that anybody who isn’t a cis gay or cis bi guy who dated other guys had straight passing privilege.
Not only did it have what was typed above, but it also used the “bi people in het relationships have straight passing privilege” bs. Combine that with the above and bi girls, according to these people, always had passing privilege. Yikes.
They also claimed that it was impossible for an ace person could be anything but aroace, so gay/bi/pan/het aces don’t exist, they’re all aroace. So all aces also had passing privilege. (Sound somewhat familiar?)
Trans people we’re constantly misgendered to fit this bs, etc trans women dating other women doesn’t count b/c trans women are “actually men” but trans women who dated men are straight b/c trans women are women. (Ugh)
I don’t remember seeing pan or nb people being mentioned, but the same “arguments” would probably be applied.
I might have gotten somethings wrong, since it was a long time ago, but I remember the gist of it.
TL;DR According to so _phobic gay guys claimed that everyone except cis gay guys and cis bi guys who dated other men have straight passing privilege.
Friendly reminder that self-diagnosed autistic people are as welcome to use #actuallyautistic as officially diagnosed autistic people.
If you’re self diagnosing, you don’t actually know if you have autism.
Friendly reminder that self-diagnosed autistic people are as welcome to use #actuallyautistic as officially diagnosed autistic people regardless of what @giantcassie, a non-autistic person who keeps invading intercommunity discussions, may think about it.
Aphobia is ableist
Not that gatekeepers have ever given a shit about ableism.
um what is aphobia? all i’m finding is ‘a lack of fear’ which is prolly not the context here
I’ve been using it (and seeing it used) as a collective term for acephobia and arophobia - hatred toward asexual and aromantic people. Given that there’s a strong correlation between neurodivergence and asexuality/aromanticism (my informal polling returned five times the null hypothesis), there’s a layer of ableism built into this.
Also, there’s a lot of infantalizing that goes along with both, in my experience, and a LONG HISTORY of people trying to pretend that my sexuality is the result of my being “undeveloped” or “underdeveloped” socially, mentally, or physically. I’ve had comments from my own shrinks and others, that suggest that because people with disabilities are taught to repress sexual urges, it’s probably just that, and that if I could just LEARN how to socialize at a ‘normal’ level, I would be heterosexual, and be able to have “adult” relationships. Or that my sexuality is a result of being self conscious about my physical capabilities.
I’ve had people use that rhetoric when trying to “correct” the problem, through physical or emotional abuse, and then claim they were trying to help. I’ve had people ask me if I were a sociopath or a psychopath, if I had ever had feelings for anyone. or tell me I should really work on NOT being asexual, “because you’re actually kind of pretty, you know, you COULD have a normal life.”
I’ve even started seeing posts now about how the language we use in our positive posts, (talking about squishes, making cake jokes, or even just general positivity) is childish and immature, which, like you said, given the numbers… The language comes from the community, and the community is fairly neurodivergent.
People have always conflated disability with asexuality because denial of sexual agency and feeling is a dehumanizing tactic. Acephobia and arophobia are both riddled with ableism.
This is so important. In addition, people always use trauma as an excuse to delegitimise gender and sexual/romantic orientations, and since many people are ace/aro due to trauma this is weaponised heaviy against us.
Erm, not that what y'all are saying isn’t valid but isn’t the correlation because asexuality and neurodivergence proof that it isn’t a ‘real’ sexuality but rather just a result of a mental ‘problem’?
(I don’t personally believe that asexuality is valid but this is what came to mind when I read the piece so I thought it would make good discussion. Words in 'inverted commas’ are words I dislike to use but am not sure what to replace them with.)
Okay, I’ll be honest, I don’t really have the spoons to post today, but I kinda need to respond to this: HOLY SHIT NO. For so many reasons. First off, please tell me you can see how that narrative plays directly into pathologization for all of us? Second, are we setting up gates based on whether or not trauma informs your orientation? Because guess what, it does for a lot of us, including me. (I am neither ace nor aro, but bisexual. I am uninterested in men largely due to trauma.) Third, while I don’t think hard data exists on this, I’ve seen multiple professionals who work with autistic people independently state that about 10-20% of their clients are trans. Does this mean trans people aren’t 'real,’ just a 'mental problem’? Choose your answer very carefully, in the awareness that the latest push by TERFs is to portray trans people and the doctors and psychologists who support us as a eugenics movement against autism, particularly autistic lesbians. (I am both trans and autistic; because of things like this, I do not feel safe publicly discussing how the two might interact and will not do so here.) Orientations informed by trauma and neurodivergence are still valid. No decent person questions this. Why would that suddenly change just because the orientation in question is a-spec? Finally: Speaking as someone who is actually mentally ill and neurodivergent, I am extremely fucking uncomfortable being used as an attempted 'gotcha’ by an aphobe who - it appears based on the searches I tried - has never spoken on disability before and doesn’t appear to be disabled. Stay in your lane.
this is my prediction for this guy’s evolution i have never played pokemon before
I typed “no this is Patrick” and I got in
no im patrick
support for the skeleton war by those unable or unwilling to fight
they stay at home, tending for the buildings until the owners return
Why the hell does Squidward’s skeleton have toes?
What about the suit engraved in Spongebob’s skeleton.
when will ppl shut up about that ice movie
ice age was good fuck off
I am dumb
goodnight