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Star Wars from the Old Republic to the Clone Wars
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She looks like she aged so much over the course of 2 episodes

Look at how Ahsoka looks talking to Barriss in this scene of, “The Jedi Who Knew Too Much” S5, Ep18; happy, calm and talking to her friend. They share a laugh after talking about the frequent bombing to lighten things up and Ahsoka tells her to have faith in the Order

Now take a look at Ahsoka as she tells Anakin, and the Council that she will not be coming back into the Order after being cleared of the crimes she was accused of…. S5, Ep20

To me she looks like she aged more, she just went through emotional blow after another in this arc, and seeing her so defeated is just…foreign

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The Star Wars universe – I guess specifically the cultures in the Star Wars universe, but it doesn’t get challenged much – is really weirdly exclusive about what it considers a person.

There’s the droid thing. Even the good guys seem to treat even their favorite droids as something like a beloved, trusted pet/animal sidekick. They want them to be happy, they let them do their job, sometimes the droid will even overrule them when they are being irrational – but there’s never any question of it being a relationship of equals. As for other droids, well, you shouldn’t attack them or screw with them for no reason, you should let them do their jobs, but they aren’t PEOPLE. Yeah, I think droids are generally put in the “domestic/trained animal” slot. And you could argue that there are built-in limits to their cognition that mean they belong there, but… It’s still creepy to me.

And it’s not just a mechanical vs. biological thing, because the CLONES. Oh, god, the clones. Whoever heard of GOOD GUYS having an army of vat-grown, indoctrinated clones? Sure, they were already there, someone else ordered them, the situation was dire, but… Expediency or not, using those clones – those people – strikes me as dancing too damn close to a moral event horizon. And no one ever questioned it!

Using battle droids is sending something arguably sentient to die for you. Using clones is sending something DEFINITELY sentient to die for you. And narratively, clonetroopers and original trilogy stormtroopers get treated more like robots than droids do!

I’d like to think the clone army was only some of the actual clones, that when Yoda got to wherever it was to pick them up he asked if any if them would rather do something else, and some planet somewhere got an influx of identical dudes who just wanted to have lives. But I doubt it.

Not sure but I think the Clone Wars tv series makes it clear that any of the clones that didn’t want to fight was considered a deserter and had to go into hiding, and that yes, at least one of the clones did not want to fight and went into hiding. 

As far as morality is concerned, this sort of topic will always be up for debate depending on your definition of ‘sentient.’ Merriam-Webster has three.

1  :  responsive to or conscious of sense impressions

2  :  aware

3  :  finely sensitive in perception or feeling

Here is my two cents.

DROIDS: Programmable machines capable of decision making and cognitive thought processes. I love droids. A creative technological mind can program the most entertaining, ornery, and sometimes downright spitfire personalities into a droid, along with an innate sense of adaptability so that it can learn from its surroundings and from interactions in such a profound way that one could almost argue that it has a mind of its own – which, to some degree, it does. They are as close to sentient as a creation can get. But by definition, they cannot achieve a state of near sentient status without someone programming them. R2-D2 {the best droid ever in my completely biased opinion, but that’s neither here nor there}, while demonstrating one of the most complex personalities in the Star Wars saga, still could not achieve that without his initial programming being authorized to do so. Anakin set safeguards in place to ensure that R2 would have the personality he had. A droid is only capable of what they have been created to do. They do not have something incredibly vital to sentient life-forms: will. Sure, they can make choices and can determine to fulfill those decisions as ardently as a human being would. But where a living being has a deep, innate sense of self and self awareness, a droid cannot go farther than its receptors and the guidelines laid down for it. It is a machine, created for a purpose. A pet? If you’d like to call it that. A companion? Absolutely, but not one capable of a life apart from its designed purpose.

CLONES: Humanoid, sentient, genetically modified. The use of the clone armies during The Clone Wars was, to put it incredibly loosely, a moral grey area explored only through what was considered ‘necessity.’ The clone army’s creation was the brainchild of a fallen Jedi under the influence of Lord Sidious and the ever-growing shroud of the Dark Side. The result was not, inherently, a mass-production of human specimens that could be brainwashed into service. The embryos were genetically tailored for battle, complete with strategic cognition, endurance, accelerated growth, and a predisposed compulsion to take and follow orders. Their DNA was designed for the sole purpose of providing the Republic with a fighting force and as a result, all of the clones were raised for war from birth to adolescence. Here’s the thing about human nature, however. Regardless of whether or not a human is cooked up in a lab, they remain human. So while the Kaminoans did their best to breed them to do what they were told with absolute obedience, it didn’t take for everyone. And that meant deserters later on down the line.

That being said, despite the fact that the Jedi did accept the proverbial gift-horse without bothering to look it too deeply in the mouth, it was also the Jedi who constantly reminded their clone troopers that they were individuals. That they were capable outside of their predispositions. That they had the right to think, want, and act as individuals. Anakin Skywalker was the first to give one of his troopers a nickname that reflected his personality instead of addressing him by a number. As time went on, many Jedi followed suit, encouraging nicknames and individual thinking among their troops. And – side note – several clones left before Order 66 and were not tracked down or branded traitors until the rise of the Empire. What would have happened after the Clone Wars is up for debate. I personally believe that the Jedi would have sought to disband the clone army and provide a smooth transition for them to become domestic if they so chose {much like they did with Jedi younglings who did not become chosen for training, allowing them to choose other Jedi careers such as the AgriCorps or to leave the Temple entirely.} But that would have been up to the Senate as well…and that’s an entirely different kettle of fish.

All that to say, if the clones felt that they were enslaved into a life they had not chosen and did not want, the Jedi Order would not have used them. Hands down. Anakin would never have fought alongside beings who felt their freedom had been taken from them. He would have freed them. And so would the rest of the Order. But while there are always exceptions to the rule, the clones at large were at home in a barracks with their brothers and found their purpose on the battlefield. It was in their DNA. And the Jedi were not meant to be soldiers, but peacekeepers instead. When the war started, the concept of falling in line for the Republic ruffled a lot of Jedi feathers and left many confused and disillusioned. The clones presented a solution to an ever darkening question: how can the Jedi both keep the traditions and code of the Order and serve a Republic at war? The answer came in a way they did not expect. The Dark Side clouded even the wisest Jedi Master’s eyes to the future or the best path. They acted and the fate of the clones did not worsen for it. As we’ve seen, the Jedi were their kindest leadership.

In conclusion: Droids are not sentient. Clones are sentient. Droids do not have will. Clones do. Droids cannot go beyond their programming. Clones can and did. Droids are not oppressed because they have no will to choose a true path for themselves or to understand the concepts of self or self-awareness. Clones, however, could be seen as oppressed, depending on one’s point of view…as they are beings with a sense of self and are aware of an inner world as well as an outer one. But for the clone argument to truly be taken as fact, the majority of clones would need to express a desire for a different life and the majority simply did not. Most were content to live the life they were bred for. Some were not. Those few left. The equation balances itself. Droids were treated by most as machines who served a purpose – and some decided to see them as counterparts or companions. Clones {for the most part} were treated with the respect of one brother-in-arms to another by those they served. Like everything and everyone in life, both droids and clones suffered injustices, unfair treatment, and sometimes cruelty. But while droids remained machine, the clones were human. As long as those around them saw them as such, no real injustice took place.

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Entertainment Weekly-(star wars rogue one cover)

The new film from director Gareth Edwards (2014’s Godzilla) will finally fit those peices together to form a full story – revealing never-before-seen characters while also reintroducing a few classic ones. We’re confirming a big one on our cover: the galactic man in black himself, Darth Vader.

Here’s what else to expect this week from EW’s own peek at Lucasfim’s secret plans:

  • The background of our cover showcases new Imperial weaponry being used against the nascent Rebellion: taller, slimmer walkers known as AT-ACTs hauling cargo, and flatter, fang-like interceptors known as TIE Strikers.
  • New information about Jyn Erso (The Theory of Everything’s Felicity Jones), the outlaw who has clashed with both the Rebellion and the Empire, and now has a chance to clear her ledger of past wrongs by leading a mission for the good guys. It’s also personal – her father, played by Mads Mikkelsen, is a scientist whose knowledge is sought by both sides.
  • Full details of the squad of characters uniting to take on the Empire, played by the most multicultural cast to appear in a Star Wars film yet: Diego Luna, Jiang Wen, Donnie Yen, Riz Ahmed, Forest Whitaker, and Alan Tudyk – as a performance-capture droid. (One of these has been seen before by Star Wars fans.)
  • A look at the skullduggery inside the Imperial ranks, as seen through the eyes of a new villain: Ben Mendelsohn’s ambitious officer, who’s eager to earn the favor of the Emperor – and avoid the wrath of his black-masked enforcer.
  • Candid revelations from the filmmakers about what the current reshoots are adding to the story as the film nears its December release.
  • Finally, confirmation of what fans have hoped ever since the project was announced: Vader is back. We have a run-down of the Sith lord’s first day on set, and what his return means for the larger Star Wars storytelling universe.
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A plethora of Obi-Wan/Satine historical AU portraits!

(if I’m going to draw them repeatedly anyway, might as well involve some historical costuming practice while I’m at it, right?)

From the top:

Medieval AU (~12th century) - He’s a Templar, she’s a princess who opposes the Crusades. Given the eventual fate of the Knights Templar, this thing writes itself, right?

Musketeers AU (1630s) - Swashbuckling, courtly intrigue, seems legit.

Napoleonic Wars AU (early 1800s) - French aristocrat and British officer - he helped her escape France during the Revolution, now the war with Bonaparte is keeping them apart.

Victorian AU (turn of the 19th century) - He’s a philosophy professor, she’s a wealthy suffragette (this one might not be totally angsty as long as absolutely no one has tuberculosis).

WWII espionage AU (1940s) - CYOA if the cassock is a disguise or if he’s actually a priest for maximum angst and forbidden love. (Not sure if she’s holding forged papers or code books - basically, spies.)

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