@ moshiach anytime now, my dude
Moshiach can’t come until we fix this fucked up world. We have a lot of work to do before Moshiach. Now, more than ever, it’s time for Tikkun Olam.
good point
@ moshiach we’ll tikkun this fuckin olam, be ready
There are goyim of all races telling me that we shouldn’t be scared bc we have nothing to be scared of and that we are white. Im Ashkenazi and Sephardic, an ethnic jew. Im not white? Ashkenazi and Sephardic are not synonymous with Anglo Saxon? Besides that, Im Puerto Rican? ALL light skin people benefit from colorism. ALL Jews face racism. What is so hard? And besides that take a look at history and tell all Jews how we shouldn't be afraid too? @Goyim, please explain?
Ugh, this is one of those recurring things on this site. Are Jews White?
I say: No. Partly because I’m 100% Ashkenazi Jew and I’ve been told a TON of times that people thought I was white until they found out that I’m Jewish. And right now, I’m feeling even more Jewish and less white.
Neo-Nazis target Jews. I mean, fuck, they’re NEONAZIS. The Klan targets Jews. White supremacists generally target Jews. Anyone not willing to accept that is an antisemite, and their social justice is garbage.
PSA: Include Jewish people in your lists of minorities that are being negatively impacted by this right now. Antisemitism is real.
Yes, thank you. White supremacy and Neo-Nazis and the KKK target us too.
Except my Jewish landlord definitely voted for Trump smh
Ok? And there are people of all minority groups that voted trump.
Did you just enter my mentions to speak a fact I’m CLEARLY aware of
Well then why add your useless comment ☺️
This is coming from someone whose blog name is…
And surprise! I’m Jewish Next.
You should have more respect for your own people with that URL. It perpetuates racist and ethnic abuse even if done ironically
Feels nice when the morality police logic turns on you doesn’t it
Damn, you sure as hell got me there 😜 Great logic to “defend” yourself
Seriously @sofxckindone, you’re going to tell Jews what our relationship with antisemitism should be? After making an antisemitic non-sequitur yourself? A lot of the Jews on this site follow @antisemitic and know him, and we, as a community, don’t have a problem with him, overall.
That’s nice to know! but I’m sure some do! So maybe only speak for yourself
Some do, sure. And some of them are pro-Trump, some of them hang out with neo-Nazis. We’re talking about community consensus not “but what about that one over there.” And just like on the whole Jews voted for Clinton (70% for her) we have that on the whole Jews don’t object to @antisemitic using that as his URL. Also don’t object when I make up fake business cards describing myself as an “angry kike.” It’s our call, not yours, and it’s not your thing to worry about or tone police.
I’m trying to understand what OP is saying. A. If Jews vote for Trump then they deserve antisemitism? or B. If Jews vote for Trump then the KKK is not be antisemitic anymore?
Because I really can’t understand how “My landlord voted for Trump” is in any way a response to “White supremacists target Jews too”.
So you don’t believe antisemitism exists. Instead your ‘fight against antisemitism’ consists of attacking a Jewish blog and TELLING the Jewish community what it should care about. Not the KKK who want to kill us, but our Jewish friend. It’s great to have such allies.
Ivanka Trump is listed here as “Yael Kushner.” Clearly they have no intention of sparing her or her children. And Donald Trump was all too happy to accept these votes. Sickening.
The discussion board on this site is terrifying. They are discussing the physiognomy of Jews: in other words, how to recognize us.
I feel like it is a very tumblr thing of Jews saying they aren't white. I've never heard a Jew outside the Internet pretend that being Jewish makes someone a poc. also I think it is cool you are also Jewish I didn't know that!
I’m only Jewish when it’s convenient (and only ethnically) but nah I hear Jews say they’re not white all the time especially in LA where somehow they feel oppressed? And I’m like okay? No? Shut up?
Antisemitism exists in LA too… like “are Jews POC?” aside(it’s a dead horse I’m tired of beating), antisemitism is on the rise all over the US, like it’s still a type of oppression even if it’s different from racism
So, OP, if it helps, part of why I, even offline, don’t identify as white (I also don’t ID as POC) is because white people have said, NUMEROUS TIMES to me, statements like “Oh, you’re Jewish? I thought you were white.” and then treated me VASTLY differently. Pretty clear signal that white people don’t think I’m white.
I feel truly ill.
The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) seized the 2,700-year-old papyrus from thieves who had taken it from a desert cave near the Dead Sea.
Two lines in Hebrew detail the shipment of wine from the king’s household.
“From the king’s maidservant, from Na'arat, jars of wine, to Jerusalem,” it reads.
“The document represents extremely rare evidence of the existence of an organised administration in the Kingdom of Judah,” said Dr Eitan Klein of the IAA.
Archaeologists dated the 11cm by 2.5cm (4.3in by 1in) piece of papyrus to the 7th Century BC and say it is the earliest mention of the city of Jerusalem from a source other than the Bible. Read more.
The geography is where it gets weird. While Mizrahim means “Easterners” in Hebrew, the dividing line between Ashkenazim and Mizrahim actually went roughly like this:
So geographically speaking, it’s more accurate to speak of “Southern” and “Northern” Jews, than “Eastern” and “Western” Jews. Especially considering that, irony of ironies, the Jews of North Africa were known as Mughrabim, i.e. Westerners, and the Jews of Eastern Europe were called Ostjuden, i.e. Eastern Jews.
Then where is the true east or west? Like all things related to Jews, it’s more complex than it seems.
This is great.
The thing that makes the line tricky is the Sephardim who create a sort of buffer zone between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi worlds. Spain is traditionally, well, Sephardi, France and Italy were always mixed, but heavier on the Sephardim for a long time, then there’s the Balkans, then, from the Renaissance on, you get major Sephardi communities in England and the Netherlands. And of course, people are physically blending back and forth across all lines, continuously.
The other thing I’d like people to understand is that cultural relationships between various Jewish groups and sub-groups tend to the incredibly complicated and change from country to country, generation to generation. What I get a lot of from Gentiles, and on Tumblr in particular, is an assumption that there’s a single dynamic and historical experience, and it leaves a lot out.
You need to fast on Yom Kippur. Reform Judaism is for lazy, fake Jews.
i mean there are plenty of reform jews who fast on yom kippur but that really isn’t what’s most important. all branches of judaism emphasize the importance of promoting justice, compassion, solidarity, and community rather than dogmatic practices but that’s clearly a message you’ve missed so mayhaps that’s something you should look into rather than sending anonymous messages on the internet that chastise your own brothers and sisters for following their faith in a way that doesn’t perfectly align with your own beliefs…………..
Hell … I fasted on YK. Does anon think Jews recovering from eating disorders are fake?
Hey, fuck you anon. Maybe Reform is for Jews who actually have theological differences with Orthodox? Say, who want to be completely LGBT inclusive, patrilineal positive, and the like, and whatever shul you’re part of it just for lazy, exclusionist, fake, bigoted Jews. Though I try not to judge a shul by its worst member.
Fuck you anon. Ever heard of pikuach nefesh? I have never been allowed to withhold from food, and likely never will. I still abstain from the others things outlined in the fast. Even if I didn't, that would be my choice.
The fact that white liberals will argue against the statement “kill all nazis” is really quite telling.
[…]
[Source]
It is quite telling.
It’s because, despite hating bigoted and often downright evil views, and, at times, even the person themselves, no decent person ever genuinely wishes death on anyone else, because that would make us the same as the people that we’re busy fighting against.
Despite all the racism, ableism, biphobia and abuse that I’ve personally and physically been through in real life away from the internet, I will never advocate violence or death against anyone else.
I may be hurt, physically or emotionally, but at least in my heart of hearts I can sit and say: “I’m better than all of those evil people.”
We stay (sometimes bitterly) polite, we can be angry, but we stand there and show ourselves to be better human beings, because by G-d, like the man above, who saved a man that would want him dead? One day, that white supremacist KKK member might look back and change his views thanks to that basic human kindness.
You fight hate with more hate? You give ammunition to those that hate us. You fight hate with basic human decency and kindness? Then the ones that hate have a greater chance of seeing more than just their prejudices, and that’s the only thing that can ever really kill bigotry.
Don’t believe me? Take it up with Daryl Davis, the man that talked KKK members out of their extremist racist beliefs, a man that believes in frank and intelligent conversation instead of violence. He’s disbanded KKK groups, including Grand Wizards.
You can sneer all you want and advocate murdering people, but more bigots will just take their places. Calling for death or violence never does anybody any good. It’s painful that minorities have to constantly take the high road, but it’s the only way that we can ever get any respect or support from the majority – and whether minorities like it or not, we need the majority to support us, or nothing will ever change.
Okay, but have you considered:
Kill all nazis.
Yes. It is ABUNDANTLY clear that they’ve considered your hatred, and they’ve rejected it.
I hate nazis as much as the next rational person, if not more, but I also believe the research that shows the best criminal justice systems are rehabilitative, not punitive. If you can “cure” bigots of their bigotry via productive discourse, then isn’t that better?
Don’t kill the nazi, kill the nazism within them. Save the person.
If only somebody had just educated Goebbels, AMIRITE?
I consider the prospect of killing Nazis to be a great deal like putting down a rabid animal. It’s a genuine shame that you have to kill a living being for being infected with something inside of them, but, ultimately, if you don’t do it, there will be more suffering spread as a result. And, much like rabies, Naziism is only treatable with care and attention if caught and stopped in the early stages. After that, you just have to put them down, and think of who they could have been, if only they hadn’t been exposed to the hate.
Jewish-Privilege, I am completely disappointed in you. They are human beings. HUMAN BEINGS. With family, lovers, and deserve to not be murdered. I understand that they wish us harm, but that doesn’t mean that we should wish to kill them. That is so, so, so disgusting. Personally, to me, anyone who condones, advocates or wishes to kill/mane/injure someone is not for peace, equality or safety for all. They only want chaos, violence and suffering. I have had violently scary situations in my life because of who i am. I do not wish death upon those who harmed myself and my family. Why? Because that is morally abhorrent. It’s hurting for the sake of revenge, which in my life only brought more pain and suffering. Protect yourself, yes. But do not seek to harm. It solves nothing, and causes yourself, the injured and their loved ones harm. It breeds more hatred. I was raped for being Jewish and I was abused, molested and assaulted for being a Jewish/Transgender male. Do I wish for my abusers to die? Do I actively want to kill those who dealt me violent harm? No, because that doesn’t solve the problem, and it doesn’t make the world a safer place. It only invites more horror, murder, torture, and chaos. Look, I understand the hatred against Neo-Nazis, but they to are people with family’s, they are people. And maybe, just maybe, they will change their ways if we don’t kill them.
Seriously, I am disgusted that anyone would compare a human being to a rabid animal, no matter their horrid way of thinking. I am disgusted that anyone would want to kill another human being. Both blogs should be ashamed of themselves.
Did they really compare a human being to a rapid dog. What kind of people just uncompromisingly advocate for murder?
I don’t think this is something anyone says lightly – and certainly the original statement, I think, got misread somewhere. It’s telling people will loudly protest the statement “kill all nazis” but usually tend towards arguing for freedom of speech if someone states “kill all [ethnic minority group].” It’s telling because nazism is a choice, and ethnicity is not. It’s telling because the priorities are twisted and the outrage is directed at victims rather than at the problem that caused victims in the first place (in this case, nazism).
Whether someone is serious or not – is usually besides the point. Very few people take revenge on their attackers, but violent, abusive, or racist people may repeat their actions and cause more victims. They’re called repeat offenders. Abusers often stay abusive. People who commit sexual assault are very likely to do it again. Nazism is a crime which self-perpetuates towards a lifetime of victims.
I’m cutting this because I’ve gone on to discuss a specific case in which people I knew personally were murdered by a neo-nazi and I have no qualms against being glad he’s dead because he murdered four people and if his buddies all died too, I wouldn’t be bothered. tl;dr: Fuck Nazis. Their families may also be suffering directly because of them.
Two things:
First, because some people apparently can’t understand a metaphor, or hyperbole, I’m saying this: I’m not advocating murder, and the insinuation that I am I find borderline libelous. In the above “Naziism=rabies” metaphor, I am comparing the Naziism memeplex (the network of concepts and ideas that make up Naziism) with rabies, in that both are infectious and both will seek to spread, and both will often reach a point where the individual “infected” with either the disease or the memeplex becomes a violent danger to society.
Before that point, Nazis can be “treated”, through aggressive education, and potentially social support, just as someone infected with rabies has a window before the disease progresses. And that’s good. People at that stage should be given some benefit of the doubt (some). Some of them are in it for the tribalism and sense of belonging, and might just putting up a front of bravado. They might be within reach of help.
But the ones that have turned violent? The ones that go out to assault or kill Jews, Black people, LGBT, or other minorities? They should be treated–legally, morally, and ethically–as the mass murderers that they aspire to be. They have committed themselves to hate, committed themselves to their cause of violence and murder, and should be “put down”. That might mean imprisonment, but, in their case, I will advocate (and I have no doubt that I will get hate for this) that the death penalty should be considered for any Neo-Nazi that has shown that they are fully committed to murdering Jews and other human beings that they don’t see as people. Not to discourage others–I know that this would create martyrs for their “cause”–but to keep them from infecting others in the prison population with their hate-based ideology.
@keshetchai’s example (below the Keep Reading above) shows a prime example of the kind of individual that I mean, individuals who should be treated as the mass-murderers-in-waiting that they aspire to be, and who are instead given leave to kill and kill and kill.
Second:
Fuck this victim-blaming shit. I am advocating for self-defense, and the defense of others, but I cannot be held responsible for the actions of another unless I had a choice in influencing them. Blaming Jews for “not educating” Neo-Nazis in the hope that “some of them might change” is victim-blaming horseshit. That is why, despite the mental stress it causes me, I work to compile the Block List. Because we have a right to defend ourselves, at all scales, from hatred. On here, that means blocking these people. In real life? It means being ready to defend yourself and others when a bunch of skinheads show up to kill minorities for giggles.
I have just one thing to ask: Apparently we’re not supposed to hate Nazis, because, “ And maybe, just maybe, they will change their ways if we don’t kill them.”
WHAT IF THEY DON’T CHANGE?!
What then? When the boot comes to kick in your door and drag you off to the rebuilt gas chamber or mass grave, will you be begging them to be nice, because you know that they have a lover and a family, and you’re human too?
Kill all Nazis.
About ten days ago, I wrote a series of posts regarding the difficulties Jews and people of other minority faiths encounter in western society when it comes to having our holidays respected and recognized. I got a lot of feedback from Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Jains, etc. echoing my sentiments (some of which was absolutely heartbreaking), and I have additionally seen a variety of other posts on the matter that underline my point. When reading all of the notes and comments relevant to these posts, I noticed a very similar theme reappearing time after time:
“I didn’t take off for X holiday because I’m not that religious, but the scheduling was very inconvenient for my more observant friend or family member.”
Indeed, I had previously quoted former MLB player Gabe Kapler, who once made the justification to play baseball on Yom Kippur by saying:
“I am not really a practicing Jew. It would be selfish to be a practicing Jew on only one day.”
It would seem that many people have been led to believe that observing a Jewish or Muslim or Hindu holiday is cheating unless you are sincerely devout.
Well, I have an important message for those people:
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO NON-CHRISTIAN SECULAR OBSERVANCES
This is important, so I’m going to say it again:
Think of all the times you have been chided by secular Christian friends for not celebrating Christmas.
“It’s not really even a religious holiday anymore,” people will tell you. “It’s just a nice time for families to get together and celebrate.”
Well, guess what? So is Rosh Hashanah. So is Eid. So is Diwali.
A secular Jew might not want to go to synagogue on Rosh Hashanah, but that doesn’t mean they don’t want to fly home for Rosh Hashanah dinner to be with their family.
A non-practicing Muslim may have lost interest in regular religious practices, but that doesn’t mean they don’t still look forward to Eid celebrations.
A lapsed Hindu can still have fond memories of celebrating Diwali as a youth, and want to continue on with their family traditions.
There is no written rule that says only people from Christian backgrounds can be non-religious and still celebrate their cultural holidays. There is no law that says only Christmas and Easter can be boiled down to family dinners and fun festivities.
BEING A SECULAR PERSON FROM A MINORITY FAITH DOES NOT INVALIDATE YOUR RIGHT TO YOUR OWN CULTURAL BACKGROUND.
It doesn’t matter if you haven’t prayed in years or don’t believe in God. If you want a day off for your holiday, take it. No matter what, it’s still yours.
With the High Holidays coming up, I wanted to share this again.
I feel very strongly that we need to start normalizing non-Christian holiday observances (both secular and religious) throughout the year for people of all backgrounds.
If you’re Jewish, next week is a good time to start.
I’d be nice if my employer would let me, say, trade Christmas for Yom Kippur as a day off…but unfortunately, Christianity is enshrined in law, even though it shouldn’t be.
Capitalism at its best. Some role models we should all consider. I am a fan of Hagen Daz, but after reading this, I need to get me some Cherry Garcia!
I just need to work for them tbh
And they openly support Black Lives Matter. They are GOLD ❤️
they also have an AMAZING dairy free almondmilk ice cream. changed my life
They’ve also gone in front of congress to testify that every shitty business’s claims that minimum wage hikes are bad are complete bullshit
Ben and Jerry are Jewish.
OF COURSE they’re Jewish.
Does curvesincolor make random assumptions about Judaism a lot or is the a first time offence?
yeah they do it a lot
Did curvesincolor do something?
I had meant recently, hadn’t heard much about them in awhile. Thankfully. Guess I’ve just been ignoring them.
Honestly bless whoever made this map. The only real Arabs are from Arabia! Referring to all Levantine people as Arabs just reinforces the colonialism that plagues the region!
if you’re from a western christian background i really don’t want to hear your opinions on why all religious ideologies should be destroyed like does anyone else see a problem with that
western atheism has the same universalist motifs that western christianity had. i think its ingrained in western thought: either its everything or nothing – either no one is redeemed or everyone is saved by “us”. atheism in europe was created not only as a reaction against hegemonic christianity but also as an “illuminating” force of reason – but, as western thought goes, europe is the world. going against christianity in western europe meant going against everyone else idk
No, but for serious, historically the atheist movement in Europe was a fashionable movement among the nobility after some monarchs decided the Church was no longer as politically useful; when it got picked up by revolutionaries it was promptly discarded (and religion re-enshrined as the BASIS for monarchy), and populists only turned religious again the moment Jewish atheist philosophers started popping up. The top insult hurled at Nietzsche in his lifetime was SPINOZIST, because Jewish Atheists were considered so incredibly anti-society that even actual German Communist Revolutionaries ™ were ~appalled~. [Note the distinct lack of atheism in all of the modern fascist movements, even though all of them were distinctly anti-church and/or installed distinctive pseudo-churches.] The current expression of Western Ex-Christian Atheism is absolutely the remnants of an enlightenment ideology that deals only in colonial absolutes, dangerously fused with an abhorrence for ~Eastern~(/global Southern) thought, first and foremost of those Jewish and Muslim.
the “raised in a jewish family” collection (incomplete, because i would have been here all day)
thank you for collecting some of these. it seems that the only thing that scares gentiles more than gefilte fish and jews in hollywood and finance, is unambiguously stating that someone is jewish on wikipedia.
Do they think if they flat out state someone is Jewish 3 times a Jew will magically appear alah beetlejuice /sarcasm/
little do they know that the actual summoning technique is just a juicy debate
There’s actually a good* reason for this. In order to preserve accuracy, Wikipedia insists on everything having a source and bans original research. This is in fact enforced in so draconian a manner that you can’t even make common sense deductions like “This reputable source says that his mother was Jewish and this other reputable source says that people with Jewish mothers are Jewish so obviously he was Jewish”, because that counts as original research.
Therefore whenever no source can be found of the person actively stating “I am Jewish”, then even if there’s overwhelming evidence of their being Jewish the best Wikipedia can do is “He was born to Jewish parents”.
*By which I mean not antisemitic; it’s actually completely stupid as reasons go.
Uh, no. If someone is born of Jewish parents, they’re a Jew. It’s not something you can opt out of.
Or I guess it is, but only if you completely divorce Jewishness from ethnicity and see it purely as religion, which is garbage.
You’ve … completely missed my point.
This isn’t a case of whether or not having Jewish parents makes you Jewish. Of course it does. This is a case of whether or not Wikipedia referring to Jews as “raised in a Jewish family” is some kind of anti-semitic erasure programme. I am pointing out that under Wikipedia’s anti-original-research rules, you can’t even make basic logical deductions like knowing that people born of Jewish parents are Jewish, and that that is the likely reason for this phenomenon, not a nebulous conspiracy to hide famous Jews.
I might be explaining myself poorly, so let’s take a very simple example, stepping away from emotive subjects for a minute. Let’s say that I’m writing an article on a hypothetical man from Chicago. I have a source saying that he was born in Chicago, but not a source saying that he was born in Illinois. Therefore, despite the fact that nobody in their right mind would dispute the fact that a man born in Chicago would also be a man born in Illinois, as it is pretty much a cast-iron fact that Chicago is in Illinois.
Putting it simply, we have a source for fact A and we have a source for the rule that A means B, but Wikipedia will not allow us to state fact B as we do not have a direct source for it. This is not because we refute fact B or wish to hide it in some way, nor are we refuting that A always means B, it is simply because we know fact B as the result of logic (which counts as a form of original research) instead of direct research and can provide no explicit source for it.
I understand the logic, and I understand your point. I also disagree with both.
Hell, I’d say this makes a nice example of what systemic -ism looks like, right next to that post going around with the idiot goy going “…but Christmas is on Winter Break so OBVIOUSLY there’s never going to be an exam set then?” YES I WONDER WHY THAT IS. And why someone thinks the above logic holds water: ladies, gentlemen and distinguished guests - cultural, atheistic Christianity!
Let’s look at Gerald Ford. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford
There is no citation for him being Episcopalian for even Christian. It may be in the sources, but it’s not explicitly sourced. There are literally millions if not billions of statements in wikipedia that are such common knowledge that they aren’t cited specifically, and millions of examples of very basic deduction like Chicago is in Illinois.
This is a double standard applied to Jews. Only a handful of the most famously Jewish people in history are described as Jewish.
as a Jew kicking a nazi in the face isn’t just a moral imperative it’s self defence
*crosses out johnny’s name on the ramones logo*
