what we really need to drill down on here is whether or not an octopus is intelligent enough to consent to a sexual encounter
and if not how can we change that
With other octopi, definitely. We already have evidence of that.
With humans? Uh β¦ I'm not touching that question.
then science doesn't need you, coward
I believe octopi are already intelligent enough. The problem is how to communicate desire or lack thereof.
I also don't believe it would be ethical to engage in any kind of sexual activity with an octopus in captivity. In the wild, they can leave if they get uncomfortable. In an enclosed space of our creation, they may believe that going along with a human's advances is necessary for their survival, which completely kills any possibility of consent.
Thank you, God, this is the kind of conversation we need. Yes. Exactly. How do we communicate that, as a species, we are down, in a way that ensures they are capable of understanding what is being offered on an intellectual level and not purely as a matter of rote animal instinct, and the offer is made in a way that respects the octopus's autonomy and consent?
I don't even want to fuck an octopus I just look at all the art and literature our species has produced that involves octopi in intimate scenarios and think, you know, this is one species that might actually be smart enough for this to cross the line from bestiality (not great) to xenophilia (cool and understandable). How can we make this happen for the freaks
I think one of the biggest hurdles would be that our minds work in different ways. From what I know, octopi are not a communal species, so they may not have evolved to process language. They're obviously smart enough to understand concepts, but how do they structure their thoughts?
If there isn't an octopus language, or even really a culture for that matter, every human/octopus relationship would be basically starting from square one. There may be some species wide commonalities to start with, but every octopus would have its own "culture" of expectations and preferences we'd need to learn.
This is such a cool fucking point. I knew the Tumblr braintrust was the right place for this question