Thank you for defending Nazis. They're just little guys. Just misunderstood, with genuine grievances. I noticed you accidentally forgot to defend child rapists. Dumb commies like you are all the same 🙄
Piss on the poor! Also I'm not a commie and never claimed to be one.
Anyone who is actually genuinely interested to learn exactly how Nazis happened should absolutely read this article written by the National WWII Museum in New Orleans, which sums up exactly what I said on the post that anon is accusing me of 'defending Nazis' on.
After WWI, Germany's economy was in shambles and its people were desperate. Hitler was able to rise to power by promising a solution for their desperation, and leaned into pre-existing bigotries already held by a significant portion of the population. From there his policies became more and more extreme until effectively the entire country was radicalized [Nazis] or contained [in ghettos and camps] as were several surrounding countries.
Understanding how desperation due to social and structural problems within a country can quickly lead to radicalization, especially if pre-existing bias is present and especially especially if it's worsening, is key to understanding the progression of what happened in Europe during WWII but also of how we can recognize the signs of radicalization and how to stop it in its tracks. Point being if either the desperation or the bigotry was missing in this equation, likely it would not have happened to this extreme. Hitler was not initially popular as a politician and it was only as the country continued to fall apart that fascism started to look appealing. Hitler did not start with "mass-exterminate the Jews" because most people would have gone "okay that's a bit much".
I am not defending anyone. I am saying that you have to, you HAVE to understand how radicalization happens, because none of these people were born Nazis. They became radicalized through a very clear process that continues to radicalize people to this day. And the only way we can stop this process from happening is if we understand how and why it happens so that we can step in before it's too late again.
If you think that's "defending Nazis" I strongly urge you to go learn history from the actual accounts of what happened instead of whatever soundbites you've heard on social media.
(Nazi positive commie?? Anon is a bit confused XD) Recognizing the humanity in the nazi is important because it helps you stop seeing them as heartless monsters and start seeing how easily people can be swayed into atrocities. There are countless stories from deradicalized people saying how they were radicalized by giving a source for their despair in the form of a minority to attack. Moreover, when we think of these people as solely monsters, we are both creating a false moral purity that these people supposedly didn't have. AND we are ignoring the potential in ourselves to become radicalized.
Speaking of countless stories...
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes
This NPR article talks a little bit about this too.
Davis uses a two-pronged approach: he dismantles their pre-existing bigotries and biases, and he addresses their complaints about society. In the example used, the Klansman said "black people are predisposed to violence"- there is bias and bigotry there, but he's talking about a real problem when it comes to violent crime. He's just blaming the wrong thing for it. He thinks it's racial, it's genetic, and that it's inevitable.
Davis turns it on its head- "white people are predisposed to being serial killers". He's also talking about a real problem when it comes to serial killers, but he's pointed to the wrong cause. And the Klansman goes "well that's stupid" and Davis goes "yeah?" And he lets that nugget sit and the guy starts the path to deradicalizing himself because, oh yeah, that is stupid to unfairly blame an entire population of mostly-innocent people, and that doesn't magically stop being true just because we're talking about black people.
When you understand that radicalized people usually have a problem that left them hurting for a solution, and pre-existing bias they're leaning into to make their logic make sense, you can also understand how to get them to stop doing that. It's not always possible with a conversation over dinner and drinks. But damn if that's not a good place to start.
We've seen that in real time with Trump and his stupid wall. The people who support these policies are afraid of real problems- drug cartels, sexual predators, and violent crime. They also have a lot of pre-existing racism and xenophobia they're leaning into to justify their logic and explain their fear as rational. I've personally watched people's rants putter out when challenged directly on why immigrants should be considered as uniquely dangerous when we have plenty of violent, sexual, and drug-related crime coming from our citizenry. It doesn't always deradicalize them and it certainly doesn't do it right away, but it often does stop them in their tracks and really make them consider what they're saying.
It's not enough to say "well these ideologies are evil and bad" because honestly? People are still falling for them so in order to prevent escalation it's important to understand why people are supporting ideologies that most as a collective *know* are evil and bad. How does someone get on this track, and is there a way to get them back off? Is it as simple as saying a single sentence that shakes their whole world, or is a more overt push necessary to nudge them into a better direction?
But the flip side to that is that when radicalization is left unchecked, it can turn even your previous allies against you. A friend of mine transitioned medically as a minor, surgeries and all. Obviously, that means his parents were supportive of his transition. Unfortunately with the rise of Trump and related politicians, his parents are now QAnon supporters regurgitating some frankly evil talking points. And he was talking to me the other day about his realization that if he was transitioning now, as an adult in his 30s, his parents would likely disown or even attack him instead. This has left him pretty hurt and confused, to watch these folks who once told him that he'd always be beloved and it was his choice to do what he would with his body and live how he wished, now talking about the transgender cult and rapid onset gender dysphoria and how trannies need to be pre-emptively jailed because they're all pedophiles and how sex offenders should get the chair.
His folks did not get this way overnight. Zombie mind viruses are not real, they were radicalized through a very similar process. Slowly but surely their concerns about the difficulties accompanying medical transition in the 90s, as well as sexual crime, were given a scapegoat to blame and then from their the logic became more and more extreme.
My friend is too close to the situation, so he has a hard time having any sort of conversation With them about it without feeling very hurt by it all. And that's fair too- I don't think everyone should go out and hug their local bigot. But I do think it is important to understand exactly how this happens, because it will keep happening if we continue to do nothing about addressing the cause. And radicalized people will continue to escalate until they cross whatever point of no return exists in their ideologies.
Remember, Jonestown did not happen in a bubble. Radicalized people will escalate and escalate and escalate until either their "enemy" or their whole population dies. The phrase "drinking the koolaid" is used when people are regurgitating dangerously radicalized talking points for a reason. Quite a few of the people attending- *most* of them- knew that koolaid was poisoned and voluntarily drank and fed it to their kids anyway. Those who resisted were too outnumbered by those who believed it was the right thing to do.
Jonestown's residents were primarily black [70%] with a significant portion being black women [43%]. Jim Jones claimed to hate the US due to its capitalist and imperialist structures, calling Jonestown a communal socialist paradise. The location of Jonestown was deliberately chosen so that its significant black population would have relative safety from racism. Legitimate complaints, pre-existing bias, and a tragedy that resulted in the mass murder and suicide of over 900 people including children and babies.
Understanding how people become radicalized like this is imperative because no one is immune to it. And recognizing that is the first step in preventing it from happening again.
It's important to recognize that anytime you dehumanize a group of people - when you literally turn them into not-humans, monsters, vermin - those are the same tactics that fascists use. Literally the exact same things Trump is saying now.
That doesn't excuse harmful ideology. It recognizes that those people are people, and by understanding that they are people who were radicalized, we can, if nothing else, inoculate ourselves against similar harmful radicalization. If you think that you, o random Tumblr person, can't be radicalized into thinking that there are entire classes of people who should simply be, let's say, dragged out into the street and shot without due process or charges, boy do I have a post full of notes for you to read!
Like, if nothing else, understanding how people are radicalized can help you spot those tactics when people try to use them on you.